SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Apr 19, 2013 6:15pm
Thought that was very interesting...they were just "there"...what a crazy coincidencePick6;1429603 wrote:So they didnt rob the 7-11...interesting.
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Apr 19, 2013 6:15pm
sherm03;1429600 wrote:I read it completely differently. I read it as they asked to search and didn't just come inside (whether or not she agreed to the search isn't the point), and then she made the statement that they are not illegally searching (or in other words, they aren't just barging in to each house).
This is what I got from it.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Apr 19, 2013 6:15pm
How do you know he's out of the city?sportsfan24;1429605 wrote:If the cities were on "lockdown" then how does kid get out of the city.....sounds like someone dropped the ball.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Apr 19, 2013 6:15pm
Was it actually on lockdown? Meaning no one in, no one out, like NYC after 9/11? Didn't appear that way to me.sportsfan24;1429605 wrote:If the cities were on "lockdown" then how does kid get out of the city.....sounds like someone dropped the ball.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Apr 19, 2013 6:16pm
I have no idea how to read into that.gorocks99;1429597 wrote:City is open again, in home order lifted
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Apr 19, 2013 6:16pm
It wasn't..citizens were just advised not to leave their homesWebFire;1429612 wrote:Was it actually on lockdown? Meaning no one in, no one out, like NYC after 9/11? Didn't appear that way to me.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Apr 19, 2013 6:17pm
I read it with an expectation that they would be searching EVERY home, car, etc...So I assumed if they didn't search her house then she must have refused the search.sherm03;1429600 wrote:I read it completely differently. I read it as they asked to search and didn't just come inside (whether or not she agreed to the search isn't the point), and then she made the statement that they are not illegally searching (or in other words, they aren't just barging in to each house).
I guess they could assume if there was a hostage situation the person would still tip them off, or show so much distress that they would then just go in.
sportsfan24
Posts: 181
Apr 19, 2013 6:17pm
But unless I misunderstood didn't the cops, FBI and who ever else followed this guy into in watertown?gut;1429604 wrote:Their perimeter was how many square miles? 300+? That's a massive number of homes, and last I heard several hours ago was they had searched about 2/3 of it.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Apr 19, 2013 6:18pm
Watertown was definitely on lockdown.WebFire;1429612 wrote:Was it actually on lockdown? Meaning no one in, no one out, like NYC after 9/11? Didn't appear that way to me.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Apr 19, 2013 6:19pm
Just verified he fled on foot.
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WebFire
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Apr 19, 2013 6:20pm
As I understood, it was just a "Stay at home" request. In fact, in the PC they said there was no way for them to lockdown a whole city.Pick6;1429617 wrote:Watertown was definitely on lockdown.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Apr 19, 2013 6:20pm
So in crazy Die Hard style, is it possible this guy got down into the sewers or subway and made his getaway before the cops secured it? They shutdown the trains pretty quickly, but not sure how quick they were to secure the access. If he got down there, he could have pretty quickly gotten beyond their perimeter which initially was only about 4-6 blocks.
gorocks99
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Apr 19, 2013 6:21pm
Watertown doesn't have subways, he'd have to go quite awhile to get to one. Possible, but not probable
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Apr 19, 2013 6:23pm
I think they followed his car to Watertown where, at some point, he bailed and fled on foot. They lost him between the houses. They quickly established a perimeter, which initially was about 4 blocks in every direction.sportsfan24;1429616 wrote:But unless I misunderstood didn't the cops, FBI and who ever else followed this guy into in watertown?
I'm thinking they never had him contained, and they were fairly slow to expand that perimeter and so it's conceivable he was able to stay ahead of it.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Apr 19, 2013 6:23pm
I think he's gone. He got away in that initial hour or 2 and bolted somehow.
wildcats20
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Apr 19, 2013 6:23pm
I'm wondering if maybe the FBI is doing this to draw him out? Maybe he is planning another mass-bombing...
sportsfan24
Posts: 181
Apr 19, 2013 6:24pm
Police believe he's still in Massachusetts, just not sure where:huh:
sportsfan24
Posts: 181
Apr 19, 2013 6:27pm
That makes more sense.gut;1429623 wrote:I think they followed his car to Watertown where, at some point, he bailed and fled on foot. They lost him between the houses. They quickly established a perimeter, which initially was about 4 blocks in every direction.
I'm thinking they never had him contained, and they were fairly slow to expand that perimeter and so it's conceivable he was able to stay ahead of it.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Apr 19, 2013 6:27pm
Just said on Fox he has ties to Watertown and would be familiar with the area. More likely, he may have a friend or co-conspirator that is hiding him. Which is why I assumed they'd be searching EVERY house.WebFire;1429624 wrote:I think he's gone. He got away in that initial hour or 2 and bolted somehow.
Are tracking dogs not very effective in an urban environment? They should have a scent to go on and a starting point. He must have gotten to a car.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Apr 19, 2013 6:29pm
Could be, but it goes against what most people would do. If he sticks around, he WILL be caught eventually, because now everyone knows who he is. His only chance was to get away, far away.gut;1429629 wrote:Just said on Fox he has ties to Watertown and would be familiar with the area. More likely, he may have a friend or co-conspirator that is hiding him. Which is why I assumed they'd be searching EVERY house.
Are tracking dogs not very effective in an urban environment? They should have a scent to go on and a starting point. He must have gotten to a car.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Apr 19, 2013 6:31pm
He may get caught, but he's going to kill more people before he does (my opinion).WebFire;1429630 wrote:Could be, but it goes against what most people would do. If he sticks around, he WILL be caught eventually, because now everyone knows who he is. His only chance was to get away, far away.
He isn't going to hang out just for the hell of it; he's either going to get wayyyyy out of Boston (and the US) or he's going to go out with a bang, literally.
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Apr 19, 2013 6:32pm
You can't hide in this day and age. It's a matter of days now, not years.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Apr 19, 2013 6:33pm
And neither is good.SportsAndLady;1429631 wrote:He may get caught, but he's going to kill more people before he does (my opinion).
He isn't going to hang out just for the hell of it; he's either going to get wayyyyy out of Boston (and the US) or he's going to go out with a bang, literally.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Apr 19, 2013 6:46pm
You have to remember too that he not only lost his "leader", he's been up for well over 24 hours, his face is plastered everywhere, and the cops have all of his relative's homes covered- so he really doesn't have a lot of options on what he can do or where he can go. This is gonna' end bad, real bad.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Apr 19, 2013 6:46pm
Well he may have military training. If he tries to run he'd be spotted pretty quickly. He's probably laying low, possibly with some sympathizers, and may try to sneak away later.WebFire;1429630 wrote:Could be, but it goes against what most people would do. If he sticks around, he WILL be caught eventually, because now everyone knows who he is. His only chance was to get away, far away.
If he's hiding on his own, I might guess he's lost most of his gear in his getaway, hopefully.