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Bigdogg
Posts: 1,429
Apr 18, 2013 11:19am
Is there a good reason why the last one was the last one closed and belly raves on?
So what is king John and his merry men of idiots been up to besides giving away millions of dollars of Medicaid money, which really deserves a thread by itself? How about this! In yesterday’s revised budget bill, Republicans included a provision that would “
rohibit the teaching of sexual education coursework that endorses non-abstinence as an acceptable behavior or promotes sexual gateway activity“. This includes touching of the “thigh, genitals, buttock, pubic region or… breasts”.
It also prevents schools from handing out condoms or teaching kids how to properly use condoms, and it allows parents or guardians to sue for up to $5,000 if the law is broken.
Ironically, the legislation in Tennessee was passed because, its supporters said, Tennessee has the seventh-highest teen pregnancy birth rate and has the eleventh highest rate of HIV in the nation despite the fact that Tennessee law has required abstinence-only education for years.
Apparently, Tennessee thought their problems stemmed from not enough abstinence in their abstinence only education system and not from, you know, actual facts like the countless studies that point out that teen pregency and HIV infection rates tend to be higher in areas with only abstenence-only education.
A year later, and Tennessee is still 13th in teenage pregnancy rates (note: that’s different from teenage birth rates). So how’s that working for ya, Tennessee?
Here’s Stephen Colbert’s take on Tennessee’s version of the law:
[video]http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/412838/april-18-2012/the-word---gateway-hug[/video]
So what is king John and his merry men of idiots been up to besides giving away millions of dollars of Medicaid money, which really deserves a thread by itself? How about this! In yesterday’s revised budget bill, Republicans included a provision that would “
It also prevents schools from handing out condoms or teaching kids how to properly use condoms, and it allows parents or guardians to sue for up to $5,000 if the law is broken.
Ironically, the legislation in Tennessee was passed because, its supporters said, Tennessee has the seventh-highest teen pregnancy birth rate and has the eleventh highest rate of HIV in the nation despite the fact that Tennessee law has required abstinence-only education for years.
Apparently, Tennessee thought their problems stemmed from not enough abstinence in their abstinence only education system and not from, you know, actual facts like the countless studies that point out that teen pregency and HIV infection rates tend to be higher in areas with only abstenence-only education.
A year later, and Tennessee is still 13th in teenage pregnancy rates (note: that’s different from teenage birth rates). So how’s that working for ya, Tennessee?
Here’s Stephen Colbert’s take on Tennessee’s version of the law:
[video]http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/412838/april-18-2012/the-word---gateway-hug[/video]

justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Apr 18, 2013 11:25am
There hasn't been a post in it in 4 months. Threads autolock after a couple months. There's your reason.Bigdogg;1428082 wrote:Is there a good reason why the last one was the last one closed and belly raves on?

fish82
Posts: 4,111
Apr 18, 2013 11:33am
http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2013/04/18/18-q-poll-ohioans.html
:laugh:Kasich carried a 52-percent job approval rating, 46-percent favorability, and was picked over potential Democratic challengers Ed FitzGerald and Richard Cordray in a poll released this morning by Quinnipiac University.
In head-to-head matchups, Kasich led Democratic Cuyahoga County Executive FitzGerald 46 percent to 37 percent. The governor led Cordray, currently the director of the federal Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, 45 percent to 38 percent. Both of those potential races are virtually unchanged from February.
“In a state where self-described Democrats outnumber Republicans 35 – 27 percent, Kasich seems to be in reasonably good shape as he looks ahead to the 2014 gubernatorial election,” said Peter Brown, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute.”
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Bigdogg
Posts: 1,429
Apr 18, 2013 11:43am
As usual you fail to tell the whole story.fish82;1428104 wrote:http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2013/04/18/18-q-poll-ohioans.html
:laugh:
Despite his steady approval rating, Kasich remains below the 50 percent mark when voters are asked if he deserves re-election; 46 percent said yes, 37 percent no.
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Bigdogg
Posts: 1,429
Apr 18, 2013 11:45am
I have been too busy and nobody is paying me for my post like some on here.justincredible;1428089 wrote:There hasn't been a post in it in 4 months. Threads autolock after a couple months. There's your reason.

fish82
Posts: 4,111
Apr 18, 2013 1:11pm
Because it's irrelevant. Whether he "deserves" re-election or not, as of today he beats anyone you people put up against him. :rolleyes:Bigdogg;1428112 wrote:As usual you fail to tell the whole story.
If you think a sitting governor is going to lose re-election with a 52% approval rating, then you should probably just stick with the silly Ohio = Tennessee condom story.
I know you're super duper busy and all, so I'll just let you get back to it.

ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Apr 18, 2013 1:41pm
Yeah, um... I'm OK with that.Bigdogg;1428082 wrote:In yesterday’s revised budget bill, Republicans included a provision that would “rohibit the teaching of sexual education coursework that endorses non-abstinence as an acceptable behavior or promotes sexual gateway activity“. This includes touching of the “thigh, genitals, buttock, pubic region or… breasts”.
It also prevents schools from handing out condoms or teaching kids how to properly use condoms, and it allows parents or guardians to sue for up to $5,000 if the law is broken.

bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Apr 18, 2013 1:48pm
ernest_t_bass;1428242 wrote:Yeah, um... I'm OK with that.
This. It's the parents job not the schools.

ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Apr 18, 2013 1:58pm
Don't get me wrong. I think some students definitely need that education. But I'm not comfortable with my daughters learning about "safe sex" at the public school. My wife and I will be teaching abstinence.
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jmog
Posts: 6,567
Apr 18, 2013 2:50pm
My wife and I have also been teaching our sons sex education, not the schools.
I will definitely explain why abstinence is by far the best policy until they are in an ADULT serious relationship (would prefer marriage, but understand reality).
I will also explain to them how condoms work.
It is my responsiblity as a parent, not a school's responsibility to explain to them how mutual masterbation and blow jobs are ok because you can't get pregnant. Like that DOESN'T lead to intercourse...
I will definitely explain why abstinence is by far the best policy until they are in an ADULT serious relationship (would prefer marriage, but understand reality).
I will also explain to them how condoms work.
It is my responsiblity as a parent, not a school's responsibility to explain to them how mutual masterbation and blow jobs are ok because you can't get pregnant. Like that DOESN'T lead to intercourse...
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BoatShoes
Posts: 5,703
Apr 18, 2013 3:05pm
There's no way Fitzgerald is going to win if 2014 shapes up like 2010 (which it looks like it's going to IMHO). He's not going to have Obama for America and the AFL-CIO ground game that Obama had.
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Bigdogg
Posts: 1,429
Apr 18, 2013 3:33pm
Not suprised, ignorance is bliss. If you want to debate the merits, I will educate you but you got to start a separate thread on your own.ernest_t_bass;1428242 wrote:Yeah, um... I'm OK with that.
By saying no to broadening Medicaid’s reach, House Republicans turned against groups that historically have been their political allies and campaign contributors, including the Ohio Hospital Association, the Ohio Chamber of Commerce, Ohio Right to Life, major health insurers and other influential groups supporting the expansion.Instead, House Republicans stripped Kasich’s two-year budget of Medicaid services for 275,000 more Ohio adults without health-care coverage, which were to be paid for by $13 billion in federal aid over seven years. That would have saved state taxpayers $400 million over the next two years.
http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2013/04/12/battle-lines-solidify-in-medicaid-debate.html
Sage
Posts: 2,070
Apr 18, 2013 3:55pm
Kasich is a clown, this is well known.
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Bigdogg
Posts: 1,429
Apr 18, 2013 4:34pm
Even the Dispatch is scratching their heads.
[h=1]Legislator’s sex-ed proposal baffles some educators[/h]http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2013/04/18/sex-ed-proposal-baffles-some.html
[h=1]Legislator’s sex-ed proposal baffles some educators[/h]http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2013/04/18/sex-ed-proposal-baffles-some.html
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BoatShoes
Posts: 5,703
Apr 18, 2013 5:11pm
What does that have to do with John Kasich?Bigdogg;1428390 wrote:Even the Dispatch is scratching their heads.
Legislator’s sex-ed proposal baffles some educators
http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2013/04/18/sex-ed-proposal-baffles-some.html

HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Apr 18, 2013 5:34pm
Link?...ugh....it might be because Kasich, as well as some of his own party members, are not in favor of "giving away millions" of federally coerced medicaid dollars.So what is king John and his merry men of idiots been up to besides giving away millions of dollars of Medicaid money,
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Bigdogg
Posts: 1,429
Apr 19, 2013 9:52am
It's been in every newspaper in Ohio this week. It's already our tax money. And Kasich is in FAVOR of Medicaid expansion, it's the right thing to do. WOW craw out from under the rock you been under!HitsRus;1428432 wrote:Link?...ugh....it might be because Kasich, as well as some of his own party members, are not in favor of "giving away millions" of federally coerced medicaid dollars.
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Bigdogg
Posts: 1,429
Apr 19, 2013 9:58am
Because attitude reflects leadership. Kasich and his ruling party has shown very little of what he promised to do if elected "focus on jobs like a laser" instead more bull shit social policies. Why do you ask?BoatShoes;1428412 wrote:What does that have to do with John Kasich?
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Apr 19, 2013 11:07am
Bigdogg;1429178 wrote:Because attitude reflects leadership. Kasich and his ruling party has shown very little of what he promised to do if elected "focus on jobs like a laser" instead more bull **** social policies. Why do you ask?
Actually Kasich has a stellar record in governing and leading Ohio back. All this in the face of the massive, radical assault on business and private enterprise by the obama regime. Had it not been for Kasich's management abilities in offsetting some of the atrocities heaped upon us by obama, I dare say we would be in depression again around here. Although, that could still happen unless we regain control of our federal government from the marxists who have infiltrated it.
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Bigdogg
Posts: 1,429
Apr 19, 2013 11:43am
^^^Just spit my coffee out laughing at your post! Ohio's recovery started before any of Johnnie's policies took effect, thanks to the auto bailout, and Ohio's "recovery" since looks just like all the other states, but whatever kool-aid you are drinking save some for the next two years, you will need it.QuakerOats;1429251 wrote:Actually Kasich has a stellar record in governing and leading Ohio back. All this in the face of the massive, radical assault on business and private enterprise by the obama regime. Had it not been for Kasich's management abilities in offsetting some of the atrocities heaped upon us by obama, I dare say we would be in depression again around here. Although, that could still happen unless we regain control of our federal government from the marxists who have infiltrated it.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Apr 19, 2013 3:39pm
Just spit my coffee out laughing at your post. Polls out just this week show Kasich trouncing any and all prospective opponents. Good luck; you're going to need it.
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Bigdogg
Posts: 1,429
Apr 19, 2013 3:45pm
As it stands now, I would not be suprised if his own party runs someone against him.QuakerOats;1429462 wrote:Just spit my coffee out laughing at your post. Polls out just this week show Kasich trouncing any and all prospective opponents. Good luck; you're going to need it.
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HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Apr 19, 2013 3:50pm
congratulations on figuring it out....so how is he responsible for " giving away millions of dollars of Medicaid money" as you imply in your OP?And Kasich is in FAVOR of Medicaid expansion
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Bigdogg
Posts: 1,429
Apr 20, 2013 11:34am
Already answered, lack of leadership. Kasich can't even lead is own party. It's been hijacked by the radical Tea Party. All the Republicans are vulnerable the next election. Even the Gerrymandering they did will not save that dying party of angry white old men.HitsRus;1429472 wrote:congratulations on figuring it out....so how is he responsible for " giving away millions of dollars of Medicaid money" as you imply in your OP?
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BoatShoes
Posts: 5,703
Apr 23, 2013 10:00am
Dude, I would like to see Kasich go for a multitude of reasons but this critique is absurd. It is the same critique levied at Obama. The Green lantern Theory of leadership does not exist in real life. If only Kasich and Obama had "Leadership" they could corral the loons. What a joke. Kasich deserves at least some credit for putting out a budget with the obvious no-brainer that is the medicaid expansion. The fact that Ohio Republicans doing their part in the battle against "teh man in th3 wh1teH0use" don't fall in line with the obvious no-brainer doesn't fall on Kasich.Bigdogg;1430445 wrote:Already answered, lack of leadership. Kasich can't even lead is own party. It's been hijacked by the radical Tea Party. All the Republicans are vulnerable the next election. Even the Gerrymandering they did will not save that dying party of angry white old men.
And no, they likely aren't going to be voted out.
The biggest critique that goes on Kasich, (and Sam Brownback and Jerry Brown and all governor's for that matter) is that they balance their budgets relying on the federal budget deficit to pick up the slack and claim to be paragons of fiscal virtue as if they were operating in a vacuum.