Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Jul 10, 2013 2:29pm
Commander of Awesome;1470295 wrote:Don't need to be 4 seed or better to make the playoffs.
As for your question, depends on factors Ironman. Can Kyrie stay healthy? Why type of improvement jump does Waiters/TT make? Etc...
Obviously....was referring to like_that's thought they could be a playoff team without Bynum...seeing how valuable Bynum is thought to be.
Anyways I agree 6-9 seed without Bynum but otherwise healthy.
Miami, Chicago, Indy (I gotta believe either NY or Brooklyn will be a top 4 and guessing the other 5 but one could definitely fall apart as they seem to be of those molds)
It would be quite the improvement to go from 24 wins (health killed them) to a #6 seed or better.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Jul 10, 2013 2:51pm
I completely disagree with that article you read. Clippers will be improved, Warriors possibly (they were only slightly above league average last year in both offensive and defensive rating; exploded in playoffs so it's hard to tell how good they really are), obviously Rockets are better.friendfromlowry;1470328 wrote:I was reading last night that the Thunder might be the 4th or 5th best team in the West now. Clippers, Warriors, and Houston made some big improvements, the Spurs kept their two key free agents, and the Thunder didn't do a whole lot, while losing Kevin Martin.
But to drop the Thunder behind them? The Thunder were ranked 1st and 4th respectively in ORtg and Drtg, for them to drop off that much only losing Kevin Martin and replacing his minutes with Jeremy Lamb and Reggie Jackson? I say hogwash.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jul 10, 2013 3:38pm
I believe Thunder lead the league in scoring differential as well. The Harden trade is one of the worst ever anyone you look at it, but they're still an elite team.
Commander of Awesome
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Jul 10, 2013 4:01pm
Sam Amico ‏@SamAmicoFSO 9m Hearing that Cavs think Andrew Bynum wants to play in Dallas. But nothing official from any parties involved.
Sam Amico ‏@SamAmicoFSO 6m
Mavs can't come close to Cavs' offer for Bynum. But hearing, with the way contract is structured, $24 million not as grand as it appears.
Sam Amico ‏@SamAmicoFSO 6m
Mavs can't come close to Cavs' offer for Bynum. But hearing, with the way contract is structured, $24 million not as grand as it appears.
Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Jul 10, 2013 4:02pm
Cavs will lose out once again..
Crimson streak
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Jul 10, 2013 4:12pm
Commander of Awesome;1470502 wrote:Sam Amico ‏@SamAmicoFSO 9m Hearing that Cavs think Andrew Bynum wants to play in Dallas. But nothing official from any parties involved.
Sam Amico ‏@SamAmicoFSO 6m
Mavs can't come close to Cavs' offer for Bynum. But hearing, with the way contract is structured, $24 million not as grand as it appears.
Amico is a Moron and never knows anything. He makes shit up
Crimson streak
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Jul 10, 2013 4:14pm
Withers just tweeted that bynum's agent wants to meet back with the cavs.
Rotinaj
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Jul 10, 2013 4:14pm
Signing him is a huge risk. I wouldn't say we lose out if he goes elsewhere.Midstate01;1470503 wrote:Cavs will lose out once again..
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jul 10, 2013 4:17pm
Only way the Cavs lose on this is if Bynum plays for the Mavs and pwns.
mucalum49
Posts: 1,639
Jul 10, 2013 4:21pm
If Bynum doesn't want to work to make the most possible cash in an incentive based $12M contract then he can go to Dallas. As Windy said today Bynum is very knowledgable about his knee situation so it's telling IMO if he doesn't want an incentive laden contract.
Especially one that could be worth the most next season that would allow him to sign a max deal in 2014.
Especially one that could be worth the most next season that would allow him to sign a max deal in 2014.
Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Jul 10, 2013 4:23pm
Rotinaj;1470514 wrote:Signing him is a huge risk. I wouldn't say we lose out if he goes elsewhere.
Moreso just another FA who doesn't sign with cavs is my point.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Jul 10, 2013 7:49pm
I don't think Milwaukee and Atlanta are the only two teams the Cavs have to beat out. Orlando and Charlotte should be terrible again, but I think everyone from 10-13 took a step up. Toronto went .500 after adding Gay last year, Washington was .500 with Wall and added Otto Porter, Detroit got Josh Smith, etc.friendfromlowry;1470330 wrote:Agreed. Top five probably goes 1) Miami 2) Indiana then 3-5) is a toss-up of New York, Brooklyn, and Chicago if Rose ever fucking plays again. Boston is probably out this year. Even without Bynum, the Cavs have to beat out Milwaukee and Atlanta.
The 6-8 spots are wide open.
Crimson streak
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Jul 10, 2013 7:51pm
Chris Broussard tweeted Bynum to cavs
Trueblue23
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Jul 10, 2013 7:51pm
Bynum is signing with Cleveland, per Broussard.
Trueblue23
Posts: 7,463
Jul 10, 2013 7:52pm
I hope he bitch slaps Mike Brown, then shoots a three
Crimson streak
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Jul 10, 2013 7:54pm
Trueblue23;1470600 wrote:I hope he bitch slaps Mike Brown, then shoots a three
I'd laugh. His eyes and nose would fall off like a mr potato head
Crimson streak
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Jul 10, 2013 7:57pm
If the deal is what was reported it is only 6 mill guaranteed. Great deal for the cavs
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Jul 10, 2013 7:58pm
Bynum signing with the Cavs!
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friendfromlowry
Posts: 6,239
Jul 10, 2013 7:58pm
I was referring to the playoff teams from last year, but you're right. A lot of the bottom-tier teams made some quiet but solid improvements.Mulva;1470597 wrote:I don't think Milwaukee and Atlanta are the only two teams the Cavs have to beat out. Orlando and Charlotte should be terrible again, but I think everyone from 10-13 took a step up. Toronto went .500 after adding Gay last year, Washington was .500 with Wall and added Otto Porter, Detroit got Josh Smith, etc.
The 6-8 spots are wide open.
Ironman92
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Jul 10, 2013 8:04pm
Crimson streak;1470606 wrote:If the deal is what was reported it is only 6 mill guaranteed. Great deal for the cavs
$6 million? Wow
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jul 10, 2013 8:06pm
Cavs are gonna be fun to watch. If I move by then, I might get the NBA package where you pick 5 teams. Cavs would for sure be one of them.
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Jul 10, 2013 8:06pm
Ironman92;1470610 wrote:$6 million? Wow
6 mill, up to 12 with incentives and team option for next year worth 12.5
Benny The Jet
Posts: 2,987
Jul 10, 2013 8:07pm
So what's the predictions on what the lineup will look like next year?
Crimson streak
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Jul 10, 2013 8:15pm
Benny The Jet;1470615 wrote:So what's the predictions on what the lineup will look like next year?
Pg- Kyrie
Sg- waiters
Sf- gee or Clark
Pf- Thompson
C- Bynum
Bench
Av
Zeller
Bennett
Gee/ Clark
Miles
Jack
Karasev
mucalum49
Posts: 1,639
Jul 10, 2013 8:17pm
Irving, Waiters, Clark, AV, BynumBenny The Jet;1470615 wrote:So what's the predictions on what the lineup will look like next year?
Bench: Jack, Bennett, TT, Zeller, Gee, Felix, Karasev
Didn't forget Miles. I think he will be waived in order to fit Bynum under the cap. I know we have room for $6M but I think for the ceiling of the deal. Remember seeing something saying all three teams after him had to make a move to fit him and ours was waiving Miles.