Note this year, cause its too late. But I think we should have a payout for the MVP. MVP would be the player who passes his projection by the most. So Russ smith for Lville averages 18ppg, so he should score 108 pts in the tourney. If you have a guy who averages only 10, but makes the titles game on like a 5 seed and gets his average that's 60. But it's 40 more than projected and you would beat Russ smith.

Keeps everyone in the thing a bit longer even if its just with a single player to root for.

Standings through Saturday, with remaining players:

1. wildcats20: 382 points, 1 player remaining
Mason Plumlee, Duke (17.2 ppg) --- 23 pts vs Albany, 10 pts vs Creighton, 14 pts vs Michigan State

2. Big_Mirg_ZHS: 345 points

3. FatHobbit: 334 points, 2 players remaining
Russ Smith, Louisville (18.1 ppg) --- 23 pts vs N.C. A&T, 27 pts vs Colorado State, 31 pts vs Oregon
Scottie Wilbekin, Florida (9.0 ppg) --- 11 pts vs NW State, 12 pts vs Minnesota, 13 pts vs Florida Gulf Coast

4. Iliketurtles: 309 points, 2 players remaining
Rasheed Sulaimon, Duke (11.5 ppg) --- 7 pts vs Albany, 21 pts vs Creighton, 16 pts vs Michigan State
Wayne Blackshear, Louisville (8.0 ppg) --- 12 pts vs N.C. A&T, 6 pts vs Colorado State, 5 pts vs Oregon

5. Azubuike24: 303 points, 2 players remaining
Mike Rosario, Florida (12.3 ppg) --- 8 pts vs NW State, 25 pts vs Minnesota, 15 pts vs Florida Golf Coast
Nik Stauskas, Michigan (11.5 ppg) --- 8 points vs South Dakota State, 8 pts vs VCU, 11 pts vs Kansas

6. GOONx19: 293 points, 2 players remaining
Tim Hardaway, Jr., Michigan (14.8 ppg) --- 21 pts vs South Dakota State, 14 pts vs VCU, 10 pts vs Oregon
Cleanthony Early, Wichita State (13.6 ppg) --- 21 pts vs Pitt, 16 pts vs Gonzaga, 8 pts vs La Salle, 12 pts vs Ohio State

7. Crimson streak (no pay): 281 points, 3 players remaining
Trey Burke, Michigan (19.2 ppg) --- 6 pts vs South Dakota State, 18 pts vs VCU, 23 pts vs Kansas
Brandon Triche, Syracuse (13.8 ppg) --- 20 pts vs Montana, 8 pts vs Cal, 14 pts vs Indiana, 9 pts vs Marquette
Carl Hall, Wichita State (12.8 ppg) --- 11 pts vs Pittsburgh, 8 pts vs Gonzaga, 16 pts vs La Salle, 8 pts vs Ohio State

8. Terry_Tate: 278 points, 1 player remaining
Mitch McGary, Michigan (6.2 ppg) --- 13 pts vs South Dakota State, 21 pts vs VCU, 25 pts vs Kansas

9. SportsAndLady: 273 points, 1 player remaining
Erik Murphy, Florida (12.6 ppg) --- 18 pts vs NW State, 15 pts vs Minnesota, 4 pts vs Florida Golf Coast

10. ccrunner609 (no pay): 261 points, 5 players remaining
Seth Curry, Duke (17.0 ppg) --- 26 pts vs Albany, 17 pts vs Creighton, 29 pts vs Michigan State
Peyton Siva, Louisville (10.0 ppg) --- 6 pts vs N.C. A&T, 10 pts vs Colorado State, 4 pts vs Oregon
Patric Young, Florida (10.3 ppg) --- 16 pts vs NW State, 5 pts vs Minnesota, 4 pts vs Florida Gulf Coast
Glenn Robinson III, Michigan (10.7 ppg) --- 21 pts vs South Dakota State, 14 pts vs VCU, 13 pts vs Kansas

11. Laley23: 249 points, 1 player remaining
Malcolm Armstead, Wichita State (10.4 ppg) --- 22 pts vs Pitt, 8 pts vs Gonzaga, 18 pts vs La Salle, 14 pts vs Ohio State

12. birddog23: 222 points, 2 players remaining
James Southerland, Syracuse (13.9 ppg) --- 9 pts vs Montana, 14 pts vs Cal, 5 pts vs Indiana, 16 pts vs Marquette
Michael Carter-Williams, Syracuse (12.0 ppg) --- 4 pts vs Montana, 12 pts vs Cal, 12 pts vs Marquette

13. sasquatch: 216 points, 1 player remaining
C.J. Fair, Syracuse (14.4 ppg) --- 13 pts vs Montana, 18 pts vs Cal, 11 pts vs Indiana, 13 pts vs Marquette

14. ttocs14: 210 points, 1 player remaining
Quinn Cook, Duke (12.4 ppg) --- 4 pts vs Albany, 7 pts vs Creighton, 0 pts vs Michigan State

15. NilesPacMan: 208 points

16. sportchampps (no pay): 207 points

17. sportwizuhrd: 201 points, 2 players remaining
Ryan Kelly, Duke (14.3 ppg) --- 8 pts vs Albany, 1 pt vs Creighton, 9 pts vs Michigan State
Chane Behanan, Louisville (9.9 ppg) --- 8 pts vs N.C. A&T, 5 pts vs Colorado State, 7 pts vs Oregon

18. killer_ewok: 165 points, 3 players remaining
Kenny Boynton, Florida (12.3 ppg) --- 11 pts vs NW State, 7 pts vs Minnesota, 7 pts vs Florida Gulf Coast
Gorgui Dieng, Louisville (10.0 ppg) --- 8 pts vs N.C. A&T, 12 pts vs Colorado State, 10 pts vs Oregon
Luke Hancock, Louisville (7.5 ppg) --- 5 pts vs N.C. A&T, 5 pts vs Colorado State, 7 pts vs Oregon

Laley23;1417149 wrote:Note this year, cause its too late. But I think we should have a payout for the MVP. MVP would be the player who passes his projection by the most. So Russ smith for Lville averages 18ppg, so he should score 108 pts in the tourney. If you have a guy who averages only 10, but makes the titles game on like a 5 seed and gets his average that's 60. But it's 40 more than projected and you would beat Russ smith.

Keeps everyone in the thing a bit longer even if its just with a single player to root for.

Who would that be so far? Ramon Galloway? Lyons and McGary were great values, too. If Michigan wins it's McGary.

ccrunner609;1417305 wrote:What are you talking about? He is averaging 6 ppg in the tourney

Per 40 is not the same as per game.

GOONx19;1417304 wrote:Who would that be so far? Ramon Galloway? Lyons and McGary were great values, too. If Michigan wins it's McGary.

Not sure. Anyone from Wichita State would have to be my guess though. I could go through and look later. But WSU is playing at least 4 more games than projected. Then again LaSalle did as well and McGary is killing his average despite only playing in 1 extra game thus far. Would be interesting to look at. You'd also probably have to consider the play-in teams as 2 game projections, unless we really wanted to look at the full 68 team breakdown.

Shoot, I keep forgetting Wichita State is a 9 because I had them in my Sweet 16.

Hopefully Rosario goes off for about 20 this half. Hell, Stauskas may score 30+.

ccrunner609;1417791 wrote:i dont think Wildcats can be caught

I'll need Russ Smith to score a bunch...

Not that it matters but is my total correct? GOON doesn't have Michael Carter-Williams 24 points vs Indiana listed

^ You're right, I missed it somehow. It'll be fixed whenever I update with the two games from yesterday.

looks like im gonna finish on the money bubble. Damn buckeyes lol

What is the payout?

wildcats20;1418005 wrote:What is the payout?

I think its 195 to the winner and 30 to second?

Standings through the Elite 8, with players remaining:

1. wildcats20: 399 points

2. FatHobbit: 361 points, 1 player remaining
Russ Smith, Louisville (18.1 ppg) --- 23 pts vs N.C. A&T, 27 pts vs Colorado St, 31 pts vs Oregon, 23 pts vs Duke

3. Big_Mirg_ZHS: 345 points

4. Azubuike24: 334 points, 1 player remaining
Nik Stauskas, Michigan (11.5 ppg) --- 8 points vs South Dakota St, 8 pts vs VCU, 11 pts vs Kansas, 22 pts vs Florida

5. Iliketurtles: 316 points, 1 player remaining
Wayne Blackshear, Louisville (8.0 ppg) --- 12 pts vs N.C. A&T, 6 pts vs Colorado St, 5 pts vs Oregon, 4 pts vs Duke

6. ccrunner609 (no pay): 303 points, 2 players remaining
Peyton Siva, Louisville (10.0 ppg) --- 6 pts vs N.C. A&T, 10 pts vs Colorado St, 4 pts vs Oregon, 16 pts vs Duke
Glenn Robinson III, Michigan (10.7 ppg) --- 21 pts vs South Dakota St, 14 pts vs VCU, 13 pts vs Kansas, 6 pts vs Florida

7. GOONx19: 302 points, 2 players remaining
Tim Hardaway, Jr., Michigan (14.8 ppg) --- 21 pts vs South Dakota State, 14 pts vs VCU, 10 pts vs Oregon, 9 pts vs Florida
Cleanthony Early, Wichita State (13.6 ppg) --- 21 pts vs Pitt, 16 pts vs Gonzaga, 8 pts vs La Salle, 12 pts vs Ohio State

8. Crimson streak (no pay): 296 points, 3 players remaining
Trey Burke, Michigan (19.2 ppg) --- 6 pts vs South Dakota State, 18 pts vs VCU, 23 pts vs Kansas, 15 pts vs Florida
Brandon Triche, Syracuse (13.8 ppg) --- 20 pts vs Montana, 8 pts vs Cal, 14 pts vs Indiana, 9 pts vs Marquette
Carl Hall, Wichita State (12.8 ppg) --- 11 pts vs Pittsburgh, 8 pts vs Gonzaga, 16 pts vs La Salle, 8 pts vs Ohio State

9. Terry_Tate: 289 points, 1 player remaining
Mitch McGary, Michigan (6.2 ppg) --- 13 pts vs South Dakota State, 21 pts vs VCU, 25 pts vs Kansas, 11 pts vs Florida

10. SportsAndLady: 273 points

11. Laley23: 249 points, 1 player remaining
Malcolm Armstead, Wichita State (10.4 ppg) --- 22 pts vs Pitt, 8 pts vs Gonzaga, 18 pts vs La Salle, 14 pts vs Ohio State

12. birddog23: 246 points, 2 players remaining
James Southerland, Syracuse (13.9 ppg) --- 9 pts vs Montana, 14 pts vs Cal, 5 pts vs Indiana, 16 pts vs Marquette
Michael Carter-Williams, Syracuse (12.0 ppg) --- 4 pts vs Montana, 12 pts vs Cal, 24 pts vs Indiana, 12 pts vs Marquette

13. ttocs14: 222 points

14. sasquatch: 216 points, 1 player remaining
C.J. Fair, Syracuse (14.4 ppg) --- 13 pts vs Montana, 18 pts vs Cal, 11 pts vs Indiana, 13 pts vs Marquette

14. sportwizuhrd: 216 points, 1 player remaining
Chane Behanan, Louisville (9.9 ppg) --- 8 pts vs N.C. A&T, 5 pts vs Colorado State, 7 pts vs Oregon, 8 pts vs Duke

16. NilesPacMan: 208 points

17. sportchampps (no pay): 207 points

18. killer_ewok: 202 points, 2 players remaining
Gorgui Dieng, Louisville (10.0 ppg) --- 8 pts vs N.C. A&T, 12 pts vs Colorado State, 10 pts vs Oregon, 14 pts vs Duke
Luke Hancock, Louisville (7.5 ppg) --- 5 pts vs N.C. A&T, 5 pts vs Colorado State, 7 pts vs Oregon, 10 pts vs Duke

I think these would be the projected totals if chalk plays out and Michigan beats Cuse:

1. wildcats20: 399 points
2. FatHobbit: 397 points
3. Crimson streak (no Pay): 361 points
4. Azubuike24: 357 points
5. GOONx19: 346 points
6. Big_Mirg_ZHS: 345 points
7. ccrunner609 (no Pay): 344 points
8. Iliketurtles: 332 points
9. Terry_Tate: 301 points
10. SportsAndLady: 273 points
11. birddog23: 272 points
12. Laley23: 259 points
13. killer_ewok: 237 points
14. sportwizuhrd: 236 points
15. sasquatch: 230 points
16. ttocs14: 222 points
17. NilesPacMan: 208 points
18. sportchampps (no pay): 207 points


Projected totals if Cuse beats Michigan:

1. wildcats20: 399 points
2. FatHobbit: 397 points
3. Crimson streak (no Pay): 356 points
4. Azubuike24: 346 points
5. Big_Mirg_ZHS: 345 points
6. ccrunner609 (no Pay): 334 points
7. Iliketurtles: 332 points
8. GOONx19: 331 points
9. birddog23: 298 points
10. Terry_Tate: 295 points
11. SportsAndLady: 273 points
12. Laley23: 259 points
13. sasquatch: 245 points
14. killer_ewok: 237 points
15. sportwizuhrd: 236 points
16. ttocs14: 222 points
17. NilesPacMan: 208 points
18. sportchampps (no pay): 207 points

I think FatHobbit wins. Russ will get 38 in 2 games. Stauskas will get enough to put me in 3rd, but even in 2 games, he's not going to score 65.

I need witchita st to win to have a chance. I would prefer Michigan to win bc Burke could go off and get me close to 50-60 points in 2 games

Who's going to win

I don't see any way that Smith doesn't get at least 17 tonight. So I say fathobbit is going to take it.

I'd feel more confident if he needed 20+ tonight.

I think these are right:

1. wildcats20: 399 points

2. FatHobbit: 382 points, 1 player remaining
Russ Smith, Louisville (18.1 ppg) --- 23 pts vs N.C. A&T, 27 pts vs Colorado St, 31 pts vs Oregon, 23 pts vs Duke, 21 pts vs Wichita St

3. Big_Mirg_ZHS: 345 points

4. GOONx19: 339 points, 1 player remaining
Tim Hardaway, Jr., Michigan (14.8 ppg) --- 21 pts vs South Dakota St, 14 pts vs VCU, 10 pts vs Oregon, 9 pts vs Florida, 13 pts vs Syrause

5. Azubuike24: 334 points, 1 player remaining
Nik Stauskas, Michigan (11.5 ppg) --- 8 points vs South Dakota St, 8 pts vs VCU, 11 pts vs Kansas, 22 pts vs Florida, 0 pts vs Syracuse

6. Crimson streak (no pay): 327 points, 1 player remaining
Trey Burke, Michigan (19.2 ppg) --- 6 pts vs South Dakota State, 18 pts vs VCU, 23 pts vs Kansas, 15 pts vs Florida, 7 pts vs Syracuse

7. ccrunner609 (no pay): 320 points, 2 players remaining
Peyton Siva, Louisville (10.0 ppg) --- 6 pts vs N.C. A&T, 10 pts vs Colorado State, 4 pts vs Oregon, 16 pts vs Duke, 7 pts vs Wichita State
Glenn Robinson III, Michigan (10.7 ppg) --- 21 pts vs South Dakota St, 14 pts vs VCU, 13 pts vs Kansas, 6 pts vs Florida, 10 pts vs Syracuse

8. Iliketurtles: 316 points, 1 player remaining
Wayne Blackshear, Louisville (8.0 ppg) --- 12 pts vs N.C. A&T, 6 pts vs Colorado St, 5 pts vs Oregon, 4 pts vs Duke, 0 pts vs Wichita St

9. Terry_Tate: 299 points, 1 player remaining
Mitch McGary, Michigan (6.2 ppg) --- 13 pts vs South Dakota State, 21 pts vs VCU, 25 pts vs Kansas, 11 pts vs Florida, 10 pts vs Syracuse

10. SportsAndLady: 273 points

11. birddog23: 253 points

12. Laley23: 251 points

13. sasquatch: 238 points

14. sportwizuhrd: 226 points, 1 player remaining
Chane Behanan, Louisville (9.9 ppg) --- 8 pts vs N.C. A&T, 5 pts vs Colorado State, 7 pts vs Oregon, 8 pts vs Duke, 10 pts vs Wichita State

15. killer_ewok: 222 points, 2 players remaining
Gorgui Dieng, Louisville (10.0 ppg) --- 8 pts vs N.C. A&T, 12 pts vs Colorado State, 10 pts vs Oregon, 14 pts vs Duke, 0 pts vs Wichita State
Luke Hancock, Louisville (7.5 ppg) --- 5 pts vs N.C. A&T, 5 pts vs Colorado State, 7 pts vs Oregon, 10 pts vs Duke, 20 pts vs Wichita State

15. ttocs14: 222 points

17. NilesPacMan: 208 points

18. sportchampps (no pay): 207 points

wildcats20;1421509 wrote:I don't see any way that Smith doesn't get at least 17 tonight. So I say fathobbit is going to take it.

I'd feel more confident if he needed 20+ tonight.

He averaged 18/game in the regular season, so it's right at what he "should" score. But stranger things have happened. He still has to get it done.

FatHobbit;1421519 wrote:He averaged 18/game in the regular season, so it's right at what he "should" score. But stranger things have happened. He still has to get it done.

But he's scored at least 21 in every tournament game.

wildcats20;1421537 wrote:But he's scored at least 21 in every tournament game.

Agreed. But he has scored less than 17 points 11 times this year. It's not a done deal yet.

Wildcats I think the best you can hope for is that Smith only gets 17 and you split the pot lol.

O/U for Russ Smith points is 21.5. He could score 17 or less, but Vegas knows their shit.