killer_ewok
Posts: 11,379
Mar 29, 2013 12:16am
First time ever that Syracuse is headed to back to back Elite Eight's.
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The Answer
Posts: 209
Mar 29, 2013 12:18am
Indiana is really soft and seemed like they didn't know Syracuse ran a zone. Outplayed and out coached. Congrats to Syracuse on the win
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Prescott
Posts: 2,569
Mar 29, 2013 12:19am
Hulls and Ferrell were enveloped by the top of the Syracuse zone and they were too small to defend the Syracuse guards. Great performance by Syracuse.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Mar 29, 2013 12:19am
Thank you and congrats Cuse!
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Mar 29, 2013 12:23am
Exactly. 'Cuse was a bad match up for Indiana.Prescott;1416307 wrote:Hulls and Ferrell were enveloped by the top of the Syracuse zone and they were too small to defend the Syracuse guards. Great performance by Syracuse.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Mar 29, 2013 12:36am
Not a bad excuse.se-alum;1416311 wrote:Exactly. 'Cuse was a bad match up for Indiana.
Fact--Indiana just wasn't a threat to go to the Final Four. They played great at times this year, but anyone with eyes could see they weren't winning anything. Not to mention, they played like shit towards the end of the year, which is never a good recipe for the MM tourney.
You can say the Cuse were a bad matchup. I say the Cuse were just a better team; and have a better coach/had a better gameplan.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Mar 29, 2013 12:36am
killer_ewok;1416304 wrote:First time ever that Syracuse is headed to back to back Elite Eight's.
I find this shocking
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Mar 29, 2013 12:39am
So do I. I actually did a double take on that post thinking I just read it wrong..or ewok misspoke (or typed).Ironman92;1416323 wrote:I find this shocking
killer_ewok
Posts: 11,379
Mar 29, 2013 12:41am
Nope, it's fact. If I had to break college hoops down into tiers...Syracuse would be mid-to-top 2nd tier IMO.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Mar 29, 2013 12:43am
This is only the 5th or 6th time Boeheim has ever made the Elite 8 I believe. He hasn't been a great tournament coach in his career.
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Mar 29, 2013 1:32am
SportsAndLady;1416322 wrote:Not a bad excuse.
Fact--Indiana just wasn't a threat to go to the Final Four. They played great at times this year, but anyone with eyes could see they weren't winning anything. Not to mention, they played like shit towards the end of the year, which is never a good recipe for the MM tourney.
You can say the Cuse were a bad matchup. I say the Cuse were just a better team; and have a better coach/had a better gameplan.
LOL...why would I make an excuse for a team I despise? 'Cuse was definitely the better team tonight. Some teams just don't match up well with other teams, that's all I'm saying.
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Mar 29, 2013 1:34am
Seems to me, and maybe I'm wrong, but he has a tendency to do better in the tourney with his teams that aren't expected to do much.Mulva;1416328 wrote:This is only the 5th or 6th time Boeheim has ever made the Elite 8 I believe. He hasn't been a great tournament coach in his career.
killer_ewok
Posts: 11,379
Mar 29, 2013 8:09am
se-alum;1416342 wrote:Seems to me, and maybe I'm wrong, but he has a tendency to do better in the tourney with his teams that aren't expected to do much.
Have to agree with this.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Mar 29, 2013 8:43am
Not really saying YOU are making an excuse..just saying that was the excuse all year. Every time they lost they had a bad matchup...a lot of people outside of B1G territory thought IU wasn't as great as they were made out to be. I mean they lost 3 of their last 6 games, yet they were a LOCK for a #1 seed. They definitely had the bias in their favor.se-alum;1416341 wrote:LOL...why would I make an excuse for a team I despise? 'Cuse was definitely the better team tonight. Some teams just don't match up well with other teams, that's all I'm saying.
Fly4Fun
Posts: 7,730
Mar 29, 2013 11:50am
I think the committee felt obligated to give the B1G a #1 and Indiana seemed like the obvious choice. And I don't necessarily fault them for giving Indiana a #1. They had quite a few quality wins, everyone in the country had a 5-7 losses if they played in a real conference (aka not Gonzaga). The real problem was Gonzaga getting a #1. There is a reason not many people were picking them to come out of the west. Most fans knew they were a fraud. People say that they took care of business and earned it by not losing too many games. I think that's crap, their SoS was awful for a #1 seed. Just because you have less losses doesn't mean you're a good team.ccrunner609;1416427 wrote:agreed, you get knocked from the semi finals of your conference and you have other teams that won both the regular season and tourney, you should get that #1.
It feels like the committee took into account to many variables in putting these this bracket together.
I don't mind how the seeding went though as OSU getting a #2 in Gonzaga's region was a blessing. OSU was essentially the real #1.
Now hopefully OSU can beat Wichita tomorrow!
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Prescott
Posts: 2,569
Mar 29, 2013 11:57am
Indiana may have been over valued by the committee but this was still a horrible match-up. IU's guards are both below 6'0" and Syracuse' guards are over 6'4". That is the definition of a bad match-up.There is a reason the Hoosiers starting guards were scoreless while Syracuse' guards poured in 38 points.
I do think Zeller has cost himself some cash. He was ineffective and his lack of explosiveness was evident.How many of his shots were blocked?
I do think Zeller has cost himself some cash. He was ineffective and his lack of explosiveness was evident.How many of his shots were blocked?
Fly4Fun
Posts: 7,730
Mar 29, 2013 12:07pm
I'm not so sure Zeller goes this year. Didn't his brother stay at UNC to graduate? Zeller has been exposed as soft between Wisconsin, OSU, and a few other games including this one. A good friend of mine went to IU undergrad so he's a big fan and constantly complains about how soft Zeller is especially the second half of this season.Prescott;1416443 wrote:Indiana may have been over valued by the committee but this was still a horrible match-up. IU's guards are both below 6'0" and Syracuse' guards are over 6'4". That is the definition of a bad match-up.There is a reason the Hoosiers starting guards were scoreless while Syracuse' guards poured in 38 points.
I do think Zeller has cost himself some cash. He was ineffective and his lack of explosiveness was evident.How many of his shots were blocked?
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Prescott
Posts: 2,569
Mar 29, 2013 12:59pm
That is my point. ESPN's preseason Wooden Award capsule on Zeller shows, IMO, how far down the board he could fall.Fly4Fun;1416447 wrote:I'm not so sure Zeller goes this year. Didn't his brother stay at UNC to graduate? Zeller has been exposed as soft between Wisconsin, OSU, and a few other games including this one. A good friend of mine went to IU undergrad so he's a big fan and constantly complains about how soft Zeller is especially the second half of this season.
Cody Zeller, F, Indiana: Zeller (15.6 ppg, 6.6 rpg, 1.2 bpg, 1.4 spg), an Associated Press preseason All-American, is arguably the top returning player in the country. His return -- he would have been a lottery pick in last summer’s NBA draft -- positioned Indiana as the No. 1 team in America entering the 2012-13 season.
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slingshot4ever
Posts: 4,085
Mar 29, 2013 6:55pm
ROCK CHALK JAYHAWK!
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Mar 29, 2013 6:56pm
+1slingshot4ever;1416564 wrote:ROCK CHALK JAYHAWK!
Fuck Michigan
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Mar 29, 2013 7:01pm
Florida
Oregon
Kansas
Michigan State
Lets go. Jinx?
Oregon
Kansas
Michigan State
Lets go. Jinx?
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Mar 29, 2013 7:05pm
Drunkenly put this parlay on last night:Azubuike24;1416567 wrote:Florida
Oregon
Kansas
Michigan State
Lets go. Jinx?
FLorida -13
MSU +2
KU -2
Oregon +10
Terry_Tate
Posts: 7,606
Mar 29, 2013 7:05pm
Azubuike24;1416567 wrote:Florida
Oregon
Kansas
Michigan State
Lets go. Jinx?
No way Oregon wins unless you're talking just against the spread. Think Duke beats Michigan State but agree with the other 2.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Mar 29, 2013 7:07pm
Not bad. I like all 4. History says FGCU either wins or goes out getting blasted. Oregon getting 10 is great with how they are playing. The only spread I'd be nervous about is the KU game, because I'm not sold on them winning.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Mar 29, 2013 7:07pm
Yeah, it's a long shot but I will root like hell for any Louisville opponent...