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vball10set

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Mar 18, 2013 2:30pm

Lol at the "coaches" on here pretending they know more about OSU's team than Coach Matta. Shooter's shoot, defender's defend, rebounder's rebound. Know your personnel, then play them accordingly. I'd say Thad's done a pretty good job with this, don't you?

Heretic

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Mar 18, 2013 2:33pm

vball10set;1408478 wrote:Lol at the "coaches" on here pretending they know more about OSU's team than Coach Matta. Shooter's shoot, defender's defend, rebounder's rebound. Know your personnel, then play them accordingly. I'd say Thad's done a pretty good job with this, don't you?

Yeah, but Matta only graduated from Butler, so with his B1G degree, Sleeper's totally tons more accomplished and knowledgeable about how to do his job.

sleeper

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Mar 18, 2013 2:34pm

vball10set;1408478 wrote:Lol at the "coaches" on here pretending they know more about OSU's team than Coach Matta. Shooter's shoot, defender's defend, rebounder's rebound. Know your personnel, then play them accordingly. I'd say Thad's done a pretty good job with this, don't you?

More media generated garbage. Aaron Craft does all 3; as well as provides leadership. I'll give Thomas credit in that he plays on the defensive end of the floor, but when it comes to his offensive game, I'd rather have Lenzelle Smith Jr. take every shot than chucker DeChuck Thomas.

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fan_from_texas

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Mar 18, 2013 2:51pm

vball10set;1408478 wrote:Lol at the "coaches" on here pretending they know more about OSU's team than Coach Matta. Shooter's shoot, defender's defend, rebounder's rebound. Know your personnel, then play them accordingly. I'd say Thad's done a pretty good job with this, don't you?

I'm not pretending to know more than Matta does. I'm simply pointing out that 17pts on 19 shots is terrible, no matter how you slice it. And since Thomas is shooting a pretty miserable 44% on the season, it's not exactly an aberration.

He's a volume scorer who puts up a lot of shots. That boosts his scoring average but doesn't help the team.

FatHobbit

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Mar 18, 2013 2:59pm

vball10set;1408478 wrote:Lol at the "coaches" on here pretending they know more about OSU's team than Coach Matta.

Heretic;1408480 wrote:Yeah, but Matta only graduated from Butler

If Matta's so great, tell me how many B1G coach of the year awards has he won? ANYONE can win the B1G tournament but it takes something special to win the coach of the year and look like the grinch. lol

Devils Advocate

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Mar 18, 2013 3:04pm

Crimson streak

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Mar 18, 2013 3:05pm

fan_from_texas;1408499 wrote:I'm not pretending to know more than Matta does. I'm simply pointing out that 17pts on 19 shots is terrible, no matter how you slice it. And since Thomas is shooting a pretty miserable 44% on the season, it's not exactly an aberration.

He's a volume scorer who puts up a lot of shots. That boosts his scoring average but doesn't help the team.

I'm not an osu fan just an outsider but Thomas' ability to score opens up a lot for other players. He might jack up shots but he almost has to bc no one else can create there own shot really. Honestly Thomas is at his best when he's in the post shooting that 5-10 foot jumper with occasionally stepping out to the 3 pt line

FatHobbit

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Mar 18, 2013 3:06pm

fan_from_texas;1408499 wrote:I'm not pretending to know more than Matta does. I'm simply pointing out that 17pts on 19 shots is terrible, no matter how you slice it. And since Thomas is shooting a pretty miserable 44% on the season, it's not exactly an aberration.

He's a volume scorer who puts up a lot of shots. That boosts his scoring average but doesn't help the team.

I can agree that 44% isn't spectacular, if you look at the lineup there's not really anyone who would seem more obvious to get those shots. (unless you want Ravenel and Thompson taking the shots. Most of their shots are from inside and I agree those are better shots, but I don't think those two should really be the focus of our offense.)

Thomas - 44%
Craft - 43%
Smith - 44%
Ross - 47%
Thompson - 50%
Ravenel - 50%
Scott - 40%

ytownfootball

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Mar 18, 2013 3:07pm

fan_from_texas;1408414 wrote:I'm skeptical. He's shooting under 44% (!) on the year. His three-point shooting is also down from last year. He's scoring more because he's putting up more shots.

17pts on 6-19 shooting isn't something to celebrate. It's a reason to have anyone else shoot.

He shoots a lot, granted, but it seems many have forgotten how his actual selection has improved over a year ago which imo has been the difference. Not to mention, when he's on he's pretty unstoppable and no one complains then. Dude averages @ 20pts., regardless of number of shots, not going to get those points from a bench player.

wildcats20

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Mar 18, 2013 3:07pm

Devils Advocate;1408516 wrote:

While funny, it's not true.

Laley23

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Mar 18, 2013 3:12pm

wildcats20;1408524 wrote:While funny, it's not true.

What part? 4th #2?

wildcats20

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Mar 18, 2013 3:13pm

Laley23;1408526 wrote:What part? 4th #2?

They were the 6th overall seed.

Laley23

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Mar 18, 2013 3:14pm

wildcats20;1408527 wrote:They were the 6th overall seed.

Thats what I thought you meant.

wildcats20

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Mar 18, 2013 3:15pm

Laley23;1408529 wrote:Thats what I thought you meant.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure the selection chair said that Dook got in the Louisville bracket because of the pod system. They wanted to keep teams closer to home and they favored OSU in that case.

wildcats20

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Mar 18, 2013 3:17pm

Posted this earlier, but this is the overall seeding list.

Here's the entire seed list for the 2013 NCAA Tournament.

Louisville

Kansas

Indiana

Gonzaga

Miami (FL)

Duke

Georgetown

Ohio St.

New Mexico

Florida

Michigan St.

Marquette

Michigan

Kansas St.

Saint Louis

Syracuse

Oklahoma St.

UNLV

Wisconsin

VCU

Arizona

Butler

Memphis

UCLA

Creighton

San Diego St.

Notre Dame

Illinois

North Carolina

Colorado St.

Pittsburgh

North Carolina St.

Missouri

Temple

Wichita St.

Colorado

Cincinnati

Villanova

Iowa St.

Oklahoma

Minnesota

California

Oregon

Belmont

Boise St.

St. Mary's (CA)

Ole Miss

Bucknell

La Salle

Middle Tenn.

Akron

New Mexico St.

South Dakota St.

Montana

Davidson

Valparaiso

Northwestern St.

Harvard

FGCU

Pacific

Iona

Albany (NY)

Western Ky.

Southern U.

LIU Brooklyn

James Madison

N.C. A&T

Liberty

se-alum

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Mar 18, 2013 3:24pm

sleeper;1408481 wrote:More media generated garbage. Aaron Craft does all 3; as well as provides leadership. I'll give Thomas credit in that he plays on the defensive end of the floor, but when it comes to his offensive game, I'd rather have Lenzelle Smith Jr. take every shot than chucker DeChuck Thomas.

Now I know you're just arguing for the sake of arguing. Smith is only better than Amir Williams.

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vball10set

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Mar 18, 2013 3:27pm

Heretic;1408480 wrote:Yeah, but Matta only graduated from Butler, so with his B1G degree, Sleeper's totally tons more accomplished and knowledgeable about how to do his job.

reps

se-alum;1408539 wrote:Now I know you're just arguing for the sake of arguing. Smith is only better than Amir Williams.

more reps

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vball10set

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Mar 18, 2013 3:29pm

FatHobbit;1408511 wrote:If Matta's so great, tell me how many B1G coach of the year awards has he won? ANYONE can win the B1G tournament but it takes something special to win the coach of the year and look like the grinch. lol

lol, and reps yet again

sleeper

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Mar 18, 2013 3:49pm

se-alum;1408539 wrote:Now I know you're just arguing for the sake of arguing. Smith is only better than Amir Williams.

It's a joke. Smith sucks. Should be benched along with Thomas.

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vball10set

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Mar 18, 2013 3:53pm

sleeper;1408555 wrote:It's a joke. Smith sucks. Should be benched along with Williams.

YES!!!

sleeper

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Mar 18, 2013 4:07pm

Unfortunately, Ravenal can't play the whole game. I don't think Williams is all that great, but he's good for his role. He needs to add some muscle/weight if he's ever going to be an NBA player.

Mulva

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Mar 18, 2013 6:56pm

reclegend22;1408426 wrote:That's probably about right. I have a prior engagement on Sunday afternoon so I am really worried about Duke's tip. Being that you are in TV, where do you think the Duke-Cincy/Creighton game or Albany-Cincy/Creighton () will tip Sunday? I can't fathom it would be the noon game. I was thinking evening, around 5:30? Not sure if you would have an idea or not. I can't find anything anywhere.

It looks like 6 of the 8 games Sunday tip at 5 pm or later:

http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2013-march-madness-tv-schedule/

reclegend22

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Mar 18, 2013 7:13pm

Mulva;1408653 wrote:It looks like 6 of the 8 games Sunday tip at 5 pm or later:

http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2013-march-madness-tv-schedule/

Thanks for the link. I thought that there were more late games than usual last year.

I bet that Indiana plays one of the two earlier slots, which might help Laley. If Duke wins against Albany (sad that I cannot confidently say that), not sure Duke-Creighton/Cincy would warrant a stand-alone spot, but I wouldn't be surprised if they want to make sure the entire nation is able to see Duke lose.

Crimson streak

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Mar 18, 2013 7:22pm

reclegend22;1408668 wrote:Thanks for the link. I thought that there were more late games than usual last year.

I bet that Indiana plays one of the two earlier slots, which might help Laley. If Duke wins against Albany (sad that I cannot confidently say that), not sure Duke-Creighton/Cincy would warrant a stand-alone spot, but I wouldn't be surprised if they want to make sure the entire nation is able to see Duke lose.

I'd watch lol

Laley23

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Mar 18, 2013 9:18pm

Id rather a late game. I arrive in Orlando at 5pm. I could get to the place Im staying by 6. That, or the noon game so I can watch in Detroit Airport before it takes off lol