ccrunner609;1402293 wrote:if baseball and softball and wrestling were so difficult, then how do those millions of youth sport kids ever learn how to do it?

Any sport that starts in kindergarten cant be that tough

Ironman92;1402270 wrote:Almost all of them. Coaching basketball, baseball, football nowadays requires more patience and a greater understanding of how to teach the basics to the most difficult concepts within that sport....why?.....because kids do not meet up and play outside and it's even pretty rare to see at recess.

Sport-wise golf is difficult to teach because many like to work on too many things. KISS works well with golf and most other sports with beginners.

Coaching fast pitch softball to learning girls is difficult. It's a slow and often painful process.

se-alum;1402346 wrote:... but it's everything else like backing up, cut offs, covering bases, bunt defense, relay throws, etc... that make it difficult.

gut;1402355 wrote:But you can make similar arguments for almost any team sport. I don't see any of that remotely as difficult as teaching kids to properly play a zone defense, or 11 guys executing a football play.

Although I'd agree, from a coaching perspective, team sports are probably harder because of that added element. And in football, more than others, you have to take into account the skill of all 11 to choose plays they are best able to execute.

se-alum;1402359 wrote:In football, you say we're going to play a cover 2, and then that's what you do.

gut;1402369 wrote:You're taking all of the reading and play breakdown out of playing defense - if it's a run you do this, if it's a pass you do that...but watch out for this, this and this.

And what you described above is no different than a "play", you've even described it that way - ball goes here, do this...ball goes there, do that.

Even if I grant you that, it's still far more complicated to properly play a zone defense in basketball, because now it not only depends on where the players are and where the ball is, but it changes based on the specific player (i.e. can't sag on the 3-pt shooter).

As for baseball, I didn't think it was that complicated when I played. And there's the added fact you can get away with far less than 100% correct fundamental play all the time. Blowing an assignment in football or basketball are far less forgiving.

se-alum;1402375 wrote:Teaching a zone defense in basketball is one of the easiest things to coach. I've done it, and it's much easier.

gut;1402382 wrote:I'll take your word for it. I never thought it was remotely difficult to know where the throw goes, where the cut-off man needs to be, and who & where to back-up - especially with coaches barking it out during the play.

I'd suggest your standard for technical perfection in the zone defense is not remotely on par with what you demand in baseball.

justincredible;1402237 wrote:I coach youth wrestling and depending on the kid it can be ridiculously frustrating. The really young one's have no idea what they are doing and just roll around on the mat hugging each other for the most part.

ccrunner609;1402293 wrote:if baseball and softball and wrestling were so difficult, then how do those millions of youth sport kids ever learn how to do it?

Any sport that starts in kindergarten cant be that tough

ccrunner609;1402383 wrote:yeah...teaching a kid to be tough is way harder then teaching any skill in any sport.

se-alum;1402395 wrote:You ever tried to get 10 eight year old girls or 9 eight year old boys to do what they are supposed to do when a ball is in play? It's incredibly difficult. For instance in basketball, you put the kids in a zone defense, and they know that's what they need to do, in baseball/softball there's many more scenarios for the kids to understand on any given play.

ccrunner609;1402383 wrote:yeah...teaching a kid to be tough is way harder then teaching any skill in any sport.

se-alum;1402395 wrote:... in baseball/softball there's many more scenarios for the kids to understand on any given play.

gut;1402410 wrote:Completely disagree. Like I said, you don't seem to hold the same standard of perfection for the zone defense. Plus you seem to be ignoring the fact that there is more than one zone defense and each is played differently, which also changes based on the match-ups the other team presents.

se-alum;1402407 wrote:I will say this, no matter the sport, aggressiveness is the hardest thing to teach a kid.

ytownfootball;1402423 wrote:Teaching a kid to "release the Kraken" is nearly impossible. Very few times have I ever seen a "timid" kid do a 180 in this regard. You either have it or you don't.

Baseball is difficult for younger kids because of the rules and complexity of the game. There are a lot of things that you take for granted that young kids simply don't know like running to 1st base instead of third and stopping when you get there. Lead offs, stealing, bunts, cuttoff men, backing up a throw to second or third and who is supposed to do it...a lot of shit. For a team to be good or at least pass as a "team" 9 kids have to have a basic understanding and that's tough to get thru at a young age.

se-alum;1402418 wrote:I'm not sure why you think it's that difficult.

se-alum;1402427 wrote:Base running is something I hadn't even brought up yet, but is tough for kids to grasp. Going half way on a pop up, not running into a tag, tagging up, staying on the base when you don't have to advance. These aren't easy things for a young kid to grasp.

se-alum;1402427 wrote:Base running is something I hadn't even brought up yet, but is tough for kids to grasp. Going half way on a pop up, not running into a tag, tagging up, staying on the base when you don't have to advance. These aren't easy things for a young kid to grasp.