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Scarlet_Buckeye

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Jan 29, 2013 11:56 AM
I know someone who fits this profile.

Works seasonal job.
During the off season (November - March) he collects unemployment benefits.

JUST got hired in a NEW job....worked one day and decided that he didn't like it and QUIT the NEW job.

Question: Can he now go back and start collecting unemployment benefits again from the "seasonal job" he was originally laid off from until THAT seasonal job starts back up again in March or did he just screw himself out of that.

I know......the guys a loser / MORON - don't need to go there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jan 29, 2013 11:56am
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vdubb96

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Jan 29, 2013 11:57 AM
I work a non seasonal job. Hope this helps.
Jan 29, 2013 11:57am
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hasbeen

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Jan 29, 2013 12:00 PM
He screwed himself because he'd rather collect unemployment than be useful member of society.
Jan 29, 2013 12:00pm
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Pick6

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Jan 29, 2013 12:01 PM
I think it would be voided.
Jan 29, 2013 12:01pm
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Jan 29, 2013 12:08 PM
Scarlet_Buckeye;1376832 wrote:I know someone who fits this profile.

Works seasonal job.
During the off season (November - March) he collects unemployment benefits.

JUST got hired in a NEW job....worked one day and decided that he didn't like it and QUIT the NEW job.

Question: Can he now go back and start collecting unemployment benefits again from the "seasonal job" he was originally laid off from until THAT seasonal job starts back up again in March or did he just screw himself out of that.

I know......the guys a loser / MORON - don't need to go there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Seeing how he quit the new job. He would not be able to get unemployment.
Jan 29, 2013 12:08pm
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Jan 29, 2013 12:13 PM
I'd say by quitting he didn't establish just cause for leaving the job, but IANAL.
Jan 29, 2013 12:13pm
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Jan 29, 2013 12:13 PM
Once he took the new job and that employer file him as employed and then quit he cut off his unemployment

You can not collect if you quit... simple as that
Jan 29, 2013 12:13pm
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Jan 29, 2013 12:15 PM
Checking with my wife. She works for ODJFS.
Jan 29, 2013 12:15pm
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Scarlet_Buckeye

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Jan 29, 2013 12:24 PM
Thanks, Ted, and all.

Again, I know this guy's a loser (that's a given) but I was just curious.
Jan 29, 2013 12:24pm
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Jan 29, 2013 12:37 PM
Report from the wife: He's screwed.
Jan 29, 2013 12:37pm
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Jan 29, 2013 12:40 PM
hasbeen;1376838 wrote:He screwed himself because he'd rather collect unemployment than be useful member of society.
/thread
Jan 29, 2013 12:40pm
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thavoice

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Jan 29, 2013 1:01 PM
who knows...by only working one day they may not have filed all the proper paperwork with the state or whomever and he may get away with it
Jan 29, 2013 1:01pm
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Jan 29, 2013 1:17 PM
I'm not an expert on unemployment benefits but we have some liberals on the forum so I have no doubts your question will be resolved shortly.
Jan 29, 2013 1:17pm
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gut

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Jan 29, 2013 1:57 PM
thavoice;1376870 wrote:who knows...by only working one day they may not have filed all the proper paperwork with the state or whomever and he may get away with it
Most likely it will not be caught by overworked and lazy gubmit employee. I'm guessing they focus mostly on new applications, and since he's already receiving it probably no one will pay attention. The best bet would have been if the former employer knew he got hired somewhere and then contested his benefit (since they get dinged for it via higher EI premiums).
Jan 29, 2013 1:57pm
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thavoice

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Jan 29, 2013 2:01 PM
gut;1376915 wrote:Most likely it will not be caught by overworked and lazy gubmit employee. I'm guessing they focus mostly on new applications, and since he's already receiving it probably no one will pay attention. The best bet would have been if the former employer knew he got hired somewhere and then contested his benefit (since they get dinged for it via higher EI premiums).
If it does get caught I bet it will be how you described it. The place he worked for one day...doubt they even go through with all of ths paperwork.
Jan 29, 2013 2:01pm
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gport_tennis

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Jan 29, 2013 2:10 PM
If he has worked for the seasonal employer for a couple years or more, then they probably expect him to be on unemployment right now and just assume nothing has changed
Jan 29, 2013 2:10pm
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Jan 29, 2013 3:55 PM
My wife has worked for ODJFS in child support and unemployment for 11 years. They may not catch it right away, but they'll catch it and he will have to pay back what he received that he shouldn't have.
Jan 29, 2013 3:55pm
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QuakerOats

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Jan 29, 2013 4:03 PM
TedSheckler;1376864 wrote:Report from the wife: He's screwed.
Nah .... he needs to call obama; he'll get bene's and a phone.
Jan 29, 2013 4:03pm
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Jan 29, 2013 4:09 PM
Remember, this is a practical question. If you want to advocate your political ideologies, feel free to do so in the politics forum.
Jan 29, 2013 4:09pm
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Jan 29, 2013 4:16 PM
Fly4Fun;1377021 wrote:Remember, this is a practical question. If you want to advocate your political ideologies, feel free to do so in the politics forum. /TS
FIFY
Jan 29, 2013 4:16pm
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Jan 29, 2013 4:22 PM
You actually can work some while on unemployment. You just have to claim it in your weekly report. If necessary, they deduct the amount from your benefits. Now, could be that since he became on actual employee, his benefits were technically terminated. But if he hadn't reported yet that he had a job, he may get away with it. They may catch him later, but I doubt it.
Jan 29, 2013 4:22pm
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Jan 29, 2013 4:25 PM
Fly4Fun;1377021 wrote:Remember, this is a practical question. If you want to advocate your political ideologies, feel free to do so in the politics forum.
:rolleyes:
Jan 29, 2013 4:25pm
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Jan 29, 2013 4:26 PM
I'd be interested in what he said when he filled out his weekly unemployment claim. If you start work you're supposed to report it on the form that you've started work and how much you've earned. If he didn't report his earnings and they see he got paid for even a day's work, he's gonna get in some trouble for lying on that form.

If however he reported that he started a new job, and reported his earnings, then the following week they're going to ask him if he quit, was laid off, or was discharged from work. If he says yes, they'll ask why and he'll have to either say he quit or was fired. If he says he was fired then they'll call the employer to find out the story and he'll still be fucked.

Long story short: he's fucked.
Jan 29, 2013 4:26pm
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Jan 29, 2013 4:26 PM
We all need to continue answering his question over and over again. What a joke this forum is with its overzealous power hungry moderators. Get a life.
Jan 29, 2013 4:26pm
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Jan 29, 2013 4:37 PM
Speaking of saying the same thing over and over again......complaining about the mods on this site is probably the most repeated, most annoying, most :cry: thing ever.
Jan 29, 2013 4:37pm