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BoatShoes

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Jan 23, 2013 8:11 PM
Dumb.
Jan 23, 2013 8:11pm
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majorspark

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Jan 23, 2013 8:15 PM
BoatShoes;1373212 wrote:Dumb.
But if it will save one life aren't we obligated to try?
Jan 23, 2013 8:15pm
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WebFire

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Jan 23, 2013 8:46 PM
Terrible.
Jan 23, 2013 8:46pm
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Jan 23, 2013 9:35 PM
Stoopid.
Jan 23, 2013 9:35pm
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pmoney25

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Jan 23, 2013 10:32 PM
One of these days I really hope common sense and intelligence makes a comeback.
Jan 23, 2013 10:32pm
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HitsRus

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Jan 23, 2013 10:37 PM
Rep. Mitch Greenlick, from Portland, is sponsoring a bill that makes cigarettes a Schedule III controlled substance, meaning it would be illegal to possess or distribute cigarettes without a doctor's prescription.

Under the proposal, offenders would face maximum punishments of one year in prison, a $6,250 fine or both.
....making criminals of normal, usually law abiding citizens.... But in Colorado you can smoke hemp!
Jan 23, 2013 10:37pm
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stlouiedipalma

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Jan 23, 2013 10:41 PM
ccrunner609;1373241 wrote:Great idea.....with obamacare and fit people like me having to pay for the fat out of shape slobs healthcare....sure. Smoking is useless, it serves no good.
I agree with you about smoking, but you've been paying for the out of shape slobs long before Obamacare, just like you pay for uninsured motorists on your automobile insurance.
Jan 23, 2013 10:41pm
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gut

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Jan 23, 2013 10:45 PM
Ha! I've always said the second-hand smoke risk was 99% overhyped, overexagerated, even fabricated with the ultimate goal to make smoking illegal. Bit by bit and slowly but surely...Fear is a powerful thing to justify taking away freedoms.

Actually one of the more effective things the govt has ever been able to manage.
Jan 23, 2013 10:45pm
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QuakerOats

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Jan 23, 2013 10:49 PM
pmoney25;1373387 wrote:One of these days I really hope common sense and intelligence makes a comeback.
...until then, we do government.



Change we can believe in ...
Jan 23, 2013 10:49pm
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stlouiedipalma

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Jan 23, 2013 10:50 PM
I can see it now... "From my cold yellow-stained hands"...LOL
Jan 23, 2013 10:50pm
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WebFire

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Jan 23, 2013 10:51 PM
I don't have a problem with smoking laws for the most part, but an outright "ban" on them is ludicrous.
Jan 23, 2013 10:51pm
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QuakerOats

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Jan 23, 2013 10:52 PM
Ban cigarettes // legalize dope


Only in the upside down world of liberalism do we achieve such idiocy.
Jan 23, 2013 10:52pm
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GoChiefs

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Jan 23, 2013 11:05 PM
ccrunner609;1373241 wrote:fit people like me having to pay for the fat out of shape slobs healthcare
I appreciate it! :thumbup:
Jan 23, 2013 11:05pm
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Jan 23, 2013 11:16 PM
ccrunner609;1373241 wrote:Great idea.....with obamacare and fit people like me having to pay for the fat out of shape slobs healthcare....sure. Smoking is useless, it serves no good.

I'm counting on this and let me be the FIRST to thank you.
Jan 23, 2013 11:16pm
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gut

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Jan 23, 2013 11:22 PM
Curly J;1373454 wrote:I'm counting on this and let me be the FIRST to thank you.
As if teachers are going to be paying for Obamacare
Jan 23, 2013 11:22pm
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sleeper

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Jan 23, 2013 11:58 PM
I'd rather they just keep raising taxes on cigarettes. I love people that smoke for this reason alone. Thanks for the cash!
Jan 23, 2013 11:58pm
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ts1227

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Jan 24, 2013 8:16 AM
sleeper;1373471 wrote:I'd rather they just keep raising taxes on cigarettes. I love people that smoke for this reason alone. Thanks for the cash!

This. Based on the way I see people smoke, it's obviously not high enough yet. Simple economics says to raise it because they haven't hit the point where enough are quitting to where a tax increase would hurt.

I hate smoking, but selfishly enjoy them being treated as second class citizens while voluntarily shouldering tax burdens that would be spread out over all of us if it were not legal to smoke
Jan 24, 2013 8:16am
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Jan 24, 2013 9:26 AM
majorspark;1373217 wrote:But if it will save one life aren't we obligated to try?
LOFL!
sleeper;1373471 wrote:I'd rather they just keep raising taxes on cigarettes. I love people that smoke for this reason alone. Thanks for the cash!
I know people who have NOTHING and they still smoke. I don't understand how they afford it.
Jan 24, 2013 9:26am
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Jan 24, 2013 10:13 AM
FatHobbit;1373612 wrote: I know people who have NOTHING and they still smoke. I don't understand how they afford it.
You really don't know? Ever heard of welfare?

Cut the safety nets and problem would solve itself.
Jan 24, 2013 10:13am
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FatHobbit

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Jan 24, 2013 10:25 AM
sleeper;1373641 wrote:You really don't know? Ever heard of welfare?

Cut the safety nets and problem would solve itself.
I do not know if they are on welfare. The guy works sporadically and he does not like his wife to work. (meaning as long as I've known them she has never had a job.) They move rather frequently because I don't think they pay their rent and their cars are always broke down and they can't afford to fix them. But they both smoke.
Jan 24, 2013 10:25am
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Jan 24, 2013 11:46 AM
FatHobbit;1373650 wrote:I do not know if they are on welfare. The guy works sporadically and he does not like his wife to work. (meaning as long as I've known them she has never had a job.) They move rather frequently because I don't think they pay their rent and their cars are always broke down and they can't afford to fix them. But they both smoke.
I bet they are on food stamps. It's honestly really easy to get on food stamps these days; most of the time they don't even check your income level. I'd be willing to bet money that with my lavish salary I could probably walk into the aid office and come out of it with an EBT card.
Jan 24, 2013 11:46am
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jhay78

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Jan 24, 2013 12:10 PM
majorspark;1373217 wrote:But if it will save one life aren't we obligated to try?
If they just surround themselves with children when they sign the anti-smoking bill, that will justify their actions.
Jan 24, 2013 12:10pm
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QuakerOats

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Jan 24, 2013 8:33 PM
ts1227;1373541 wrote:This. Based on the way I see people smoke, it's obviously not high enough yet. Simple economics says to raise it because they haven't hit the point where enough are quitting to where a tax increase would hurt.

I hate smoking, but selfishly enjoy them being treated as second class citizens while voluntarily shouldering tax burdens that would be spread out over all of us if it were not legal to smoke

Time to tax the abortionists; we are obviously not taxing the baby killers enough yet, as they continue to ruin the health of the innocent unborn.

I hate abortionists, and selfishly would enjoy them being treated as second class citizens while voluntarily shouldering tax burdens that would be spread out over all of us if it were not legal to kill unborn children.
Jan 24, 2013 8:33pm
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ts1227

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Jan 24, 2013 9:03 PM
QuakerOats;1374059 wrote:Time to tax the abortionists; we are obviously not taxing the baby killers enough yet, as they continue to ruin the health of the innocent unborn.

I hate abortionists, and selfishly would enjoy them being treated as second class citizens while voluntarily shouldering tax burdens that would be spread out over all of us if it were not legal to kill unborn children.
Well mine at least isn't blind political hate. Mine's more of a personal issue (family member has had 2 heart attacks before age 55 and hasn't even tried to stop)
Jan 24, 2013 9:03pm