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Jan 17, 2013 1:17 PM
bases_loaded;1368208 wrote:Fucking shit man. I'm not allowed to ask questions because kids were involved? I'm supposed to believe everything the media reports just because? Everything that questions the government is conspiracy? Why do I have a brain capable of independent thoughts if we should all believe the same damn thing?
Did you think this from the moment it happened or did you wait for said video to come out?
Jan 17, 2013 1:17pm
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Jan 17, 2013 1:18 PM
Raw Dawgin' it;1368223 wrote:For posting a blog?
It was more in jest than being serious.
Jan 17, 2013 1:18pm
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Jan 17, 2013 1:20 PM
bases_loaded;1368220 wrote:Yeah a point I made earlier. I didn't know asking questions made me a _____. Would rather be an individual than a group.
Asking questions on this forum absolutely can make the crowd turn on you. I experience it all the time. It's certainly entertaining.
Jan 17, 2013 1:20pm
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Jan 17, 2013 1:21 PM
Apple;1368138 wrote:The are a couple things that makes me wonder if something weird happened at Sandy Hook. One is the date and time stamps on the web pages that talked about the tragedy before the tragedy happened. It just doesn't make sense. There's also the photoshopped pic of the one family where the girl was added to the pic and also the video of BHO playing with the children including one that was said to have been killed (the same girl that was photoshopped). Very bizarre.
This photo?



It's a hand me down dress. No photoshop job...it's the younger sister.




People who question the fact that Sandy Hook either didn't happen or was an event perpetrated by the US government to aide in their efforts to ban guns should be hung by their balls from the top of a very tall building. 20 innocent 1st graders lost their lives and there are whack jobs out there who can't afford the nation the respect to allow them to heal.

I watched a 30 minute video on this, just out of curiosity. Conspiracy theorists, for the most part, are unintelligent mommy basement dwellers with nothing productive going on in their lives. It's actually quite sickening.
Jan 17, 2013 1:21pm
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Jan 17, 2013 1:32 PM
Raw Dawgin' it;1368224 wrote:Did you think this from the moment it happened or did you wait for said video to come out?
There were questions the moment it happened...then there was the period of acceptance and hating that people like that existed, then politicians seemed to waste no time moving on the tragedy...then I moved on with my life....then the news of executive orders comes out and the AR-15 I had been looking to purchase for myself tripled in price...then the video came out and all those questions I initially had and then some came forth.



I'll keep a diary next time something like this happens to better give you an insight into how my mind works.
Jan 17, 2013 1:32pm
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Jan 17, 2013 1:37 PM
bases_loaded;1368245 wrote:then the news of executive orders comes out and the AR-15 I had been looking to purchase for myself tripled in price...
How much are they going for?
Jan 17, 2013 1:37pm
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Jan 17, 2013 1:40 PM
bases_loaded;1368245 wrote:There were questions the moment it happened...then there was the period of acceptance and hating that people like that existed, then politicians seemed to waste no time moving on the tragedy...then I moved on with my life....then the news of executive orders comes out and the AR-15 I had been looking to purchase for myself tripled in price...then the video came out and all those questions I initially had and then some came forth.



I'll keep a diary next time something like this happens to better give you an insight into how my mind works.
So you're admitting to your first thought being the gov't was some how involved? You either had doubts the moment it happened or you waited for someone else to plant the seed and you latched on to it.

Where are the Hurricane Sandy conspiracy theorists? Did the presidential candidates not milk that for their own advantage? How is this different? (I'm assuming you think the gov't controls the weather)
Jan 17, 2013 1:40pm
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Jan 17, 2013 1:50 PM
FatHobbit;1368253 wrote:How much are they going for?
When I looked at them over Thanksgiving. A new one was around $850. That was custom built by the local gunsmith. When I went in over Christmas, he wasn't sure when he would be able to get the parts in, but I could order one for $1,700. So instead I bought a Springfield subcompact 9mm to CC. Now he won't even price them for me, his advice is to wait it out.
Jan 17, 2013 1:50pm
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Jan 17, 2013 1:51 PM
Raw Dawgin' it;1368254 wrote:So you're admitting to your first thought being the gov't was some how involved? You either had doubts the moment it happened or you waited for someone else to plant the seed and you latched on to it.

Where are the Hurricane Sandy conspiracy theorists? Did the presidential candidates not milk that for their own advantage? How is this different? (I'm assuming you think the gov't controls the weather)
My first thought was, "I can't wait to get Raw Dawg butthurt in 5 weeks".
Jan 17, 2013 1:51pm
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Jan 17, 2013 2:03 PM
bases_loaded;1368268 wrote:My first thought was, "I can't wait to get Raw Dawg butthurt in 5 weeks".
Do you understand what butt hurt means?
Jan 17, 2013 2:03pm
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Jan 17, 2013 2:07 PM
bases_loaded;1368268 wrote:My first thought was, "I can't wait to get Raw Dawg butthurt in 5 weeks".
So this is basically you're saying "I didn't question this until some other nut job questioned this." Way to dodge the questions though.
Jan 17, 2013 2:07pm
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Jan 17, 2013 2:16 PM
I first questioned it that night or maybe it was the next night. I was talking about it with my brother and our stories weren't the same, but I passed it off as the shitty media trying to be the first to report things getting stuff wrong instead of worrying about being right.

The video brought those questions back and then added new ones. Some are easily solved(snotbubbles just did)...others have yet to be. Until they are, I will reserve judgement.
Jan 17, 2013 2:16pm
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Jan 17, 2013 2:18 PM
Raw Dawgin' it;1368254 wrote:Where are the Hurricane Sandy conspiracy theorists? Did the presidential candidates not milk that for their own advantage? How is this different? (I'm assuming you think the gov't controls the weather)
http://www.cuttingedge.org/News/n1694.cfm
Jan 17, 2013 2:18pm
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Jan 17, 2013 3:42 PM
BoatShoes;1368169 wrote:conservatives believing Sandy Hook was a conspiracy to go after guns have come full circle and are now (if they weren't before) on the level of liberals who believe W. planned and executed 9/11.

Obama, who already was likely a muslim if not an insincere christian, who very likely wasn't born in America, managed to seduce his way into the White House so he could take America down a peg, undermine Israel has now used children as pawns in his mission to confiscate America's guns.

:thumbup:
I'm not sure what's worse- conspiracy theorists, or people who label all Sandy Hook conspiracy theorists as conservatives. :thumbdown:
Jan 17, 2013 3:42pm
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Jan 17, 2013 5:06 PM
I don't believe this was a government conspiracy invented to ban guns, but I wouldn't put any politician that is against the 2nd amendment from ever doing that. If Feinstein could invent a tragedy like this that would get her agenda passed Congress, I 100% believe that she would do it. Same with any of the other militant 2nd amendment haters in office. If that makes me a conspiracy theorist or a chump, so be it.

If however many years later there was evidence presented to this very fact, I would not be surprised at all.
Jan 17, 2013 5:06pm
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Jan 17, 2013 6:05 PM
jhay78;1368363 wrote:I'm not sure what's worse- conspiracy theorists, or people who label all Sandy Hook conspiracy theorists as conservatives. :thumbdown:
I've accepted the loons on my side for what they are. Can't you just own yours too?
Jan 17, 2013 6:05pm
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Jan 17, 2013 7:10 PM
Ya'll nuts.
Occam's Razor man.

I laugh at most of this stuff.
Jan 17, 2013 7:10pm
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Jan 17, 2013 7:56 PM
ptown_trojans_1;1368532 wrote:Ya'll nuts.
Occam's Razor man.

I laugh at most of this stuff.
So, you don't think that our federal government is depraved enough to orchestrate and exploit the murder of children to further their own agendas? I absolutely do think they would. Do I believe the government made this guy go nuts and kill these people? No, but I have no doubt that if they could and get away with it, they would do it.
Jan 17, 2013 7:56pm
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Jan 17, 2013 8:18 PM
tk421;1368566 wrote:So, you don't think that our federal government is depraved enough to orchestrate and exploit the murder of children to further their own agendas? I absolutely do think they would. Do I believe the government made this guy go nuts and kill these people? No, but I have no doubt that if they could and get away with it, they would do it.
Nope. Sorry, just don't believe in conspiracy theories.
Jan 17, 2013 8:18pm
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Jan 17, 2013 8:51 PM
ptown_trojans_1;1368591 wrote:Nope. Sorry, just don't believe in conspiracy theories.

if you don't you ought to google the ones that have been proven to be true.

Example: http://www.cracked.com/article_15974_7-insane-conspiracies-that-actually-happened.html

I'm glad you could learn something today.
Jan 17, 2013 8:51pm
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Jan 17, 2013 8:57 PM
tk421;1368566 wrote:So, you don't think that our federal government is depraved enough to orchestrate and exploit the murder of children to further their own agendas?
No.
Jan 17, 2013 8:57pm
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Jan 17, 2013 8:58 PM
BoatShoes;1368491 wrote:I've accepted the loons on my side for what they are. Can't you just own yours too?
I suppose. Nuts are everywhere. As someone else mentioned, one of the few qualities left in America that might actually be non-partisan.
Jan 17, 2013 8:58pm
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Jan 17, 2013 9:07 PM
From the logic of the majority:

We value American lives much more than other life. From a logic standpoint, our government (or certain people with power in a government) would not harm 20 American kids. However, we can justify sanctions in the middle east, africa, and other places, that cause over 100,000 children to die of starvation, drone strikes, bombings, etc. to further its agenda and goals

We can't justify a government of ours to harm us, but we can as long as we look in the past and see a Vietnam war instigated by us causing 100,000's of young american soldiers to die.
Jan 17, 2013 9:07pm
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Jan 17, 2013 9:33 PM
Politicians value American lives as long as they get votes. I don't believe anyone in DC gives a rats ass about Americans beyond the fact that they vote them into power.
Jan 17, 2013 9:33pm