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Jun 17, 2013 9:50 AM
Fielder is a top 11 hitter in baseball.
Jun 17, 2013 9:50am
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Jun 17, 2013 10:15 AM
Rotinaj;1458888 wrote:Fielder is a top 11 hitter in baseball.

1. Miggy
2. Votto
3. Mauer
4. Braun
5. CarGo
6. Cano
7. Trout
8. Tulo
9. Davis
10. Goldschmidt

Prolly forgot a few guys.
Jun 17, 2013 10:15am
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Jun 17, 2013 10:51 AM
Rotinaj;1458888 wrote:Fielder is a top 11 hitter in baseball.
More like Top 2, since all of the Top 11 are Tigers.
Jun 17, 2013 10:51am
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Jun 17, 2013 11:18 AM
Rotinaj;1458888 wrote:Fielder is a top 11 hitter in baseball.
No
Jun 17, 2013 11:18am
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Jun 17, 2013 11:29 AM
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Jun 17, 2013 11:30 AM
lhslep134;1458920 wrote:No

How does little Cecil rank in WAR and some other hitting metrics?
Jun 17, 2013 11:30am
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Jun 17, 2013 12:40 PM
Ironman92;1458929 wrote:How does little Cecil rank in WAR and some other hitting metrics?

#2 right behind Cabrera and ahead of the rest of the Detroit lineup
Jun 17, 2013 12:40pm
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Jun 17, 2013 12:40 PM
Just sick
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Jun 17, 2013 1:58 PM
karen lotz;1458975 wrote:Just sick

Without looking he might be behind Torii and/or Austin
Jun 17, 2013 1:58pm
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Jun 17, 2013 2:07 PM
Ironman92;1458993 wrote:Without looking he might be behind Torii and/or Austin

After looking

Jhonny Peralta is pretty well above him and Omar Infante is tied
Jun 17, 2013 2:07pm
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Jun 17, 2013 2:30 PM

I'm not looking to argue....but looking at the batting value at #14....he's getting destroyed in the base running and defensive categories.....how can those figure in to a hitter?
Jun 17, 2013 2:30pm
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Jun 17, 2013 2:33 PM
Ironman92;1459009 wrote:I'm not looking to argue....but looking at the batting value at #14....he's getting destroyed in the base running and defensive categories.....how can those figure in to a hitter?
They don't, but I can see where you're coming from, since the stats are all presented side by side.

From the site's glossary page

Batting - Park Adjusted Runs Above Average based on wOBA
Jun 17, 2013 2:33pm
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Jun 17, 2013 2:43 PM
Ok....so all of those stats aren't figured in to batting value?
Jun 17, 2013 2:43pm
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Jun 17, 2013 2:45 PM
Ironman92;1459020 wrote:Ok....so all of those stats aren't figured in to batting value?
As far as I can tell, each of those are just the component stats for total WAR.
Jun 17, 2013 2:45pm
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Jun 17, 2013 2:55 PM
lhslep134;1459022 wrote:As far as I can tell, each of those are just the component stats for total WAR.

I was thinking these look far more needed for Total War.....not who is a top 10 hitter
Jun 17, 2013 2:55pm
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Jun 17, 2013 3:00 PM
I was joking w top 11 thing. Also, a stat that determines runs are worth more in certain parks just seems stupid to me.
Jun 17, 2013 3:00pm
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Jun 17, 2013 3:03 PM
Rotinaj;1459029 wrote:I was joking w top 11 thing. Also, a stat that determines runs are worth more in certain parks just seems stupid to me.

Top 11 (per sleeper) means all players not in the top 10....
Jun 17, 2013 3:03pm
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Jun 17, 2013 3:06 PM
Orioles and Giants fans really pushing their guys in the ASG
Jun 17, 2013 3:06pm
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Jun 17, 2013 3:17 PM
Last I saw Bruce was 15th in voting. Not sure why he isn't getting more love.
Jun 17, 2013 3:17pm
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Jun 17, 2013 3:46 PM
Ironman92;1459026 wrote:I was thinking these look far more needed for Total War.....not who is a top 10 hitter
Eh, I'd argue that runs created does the best job of taking into account hitting ability, but I mean batting value also reflects wRC+ so I think those are the two best categories. Look at who is ahead of Prince in those categories, and it's hard to say he belongs ahead of them (*for the most part*)
Jun 17, 2013 3:46pm
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Jun 17, 2013 3:47 PM
Rotinaj;1459038 wrote:Last I saw Bruce was 15th in voting. Not sure why he isn't getting more love.

Because all 3 Giants OF are above him and Cincy is not pushed on many around the country. People in Baltimore probably know Bruce as well as most Reds fans know Nick Markasis....just about every team probably has their version of Bruce. Do Reds fans know how good Coco Crisp or Daniel Nava is?....I bet almost anything they don't.

ASG voters suck often, but Bruce hasn't done enough to make fans of other teams to really take notice.
Jun 17, 2013 3:47pm
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Jun 17, 2013 3:48 PM
Stupid ML site.

Here....current players with 1,000+ RBI

Jun 17, 2013 3:48pm
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Jun 17, 2013 4:10 PM
lhslep134;1459044 wrote:Eh, I'd argue that runs created does the best job of taking into account hitting ability, but I mean batting value also reflects wRC+ so I think those are the two best categories. Look at who is ahead of Prince in those categories, and it's hard to say he belongs ahead of them (*for the most part*)

I know....just saying that his base running and defense have nothing to do with him being a top 10 hitter or not.
Jun 17, 2013 4:10pm
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Jun 18, 2013 2:56 PM
Matt Harvey has a no no through 6 against ATL. But he's at nearly 90 pitches. Has 12ks
Jun 18, 2013 2:56pm