2013 Cleveland Browns Thread: RIP Chud

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Commander of Awesome
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Dec 12, 2013 1:33am
I wasn't a huge foles believer, looks like I'm wrong thus far.
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queencitybuckeye
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Dec 12, 2013 6:57am
lhslep134;1552282 wrote:I'm fairly certain I was called a homer on here before that 2012 draft because I said I thought Foles was going to be awesome.
He's played well, but the sample size is WAY too short to characterize him as "awesome" - see RGIII-X.
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Dec 12, 2013 7:28am
"I would consider RGIII for the Colts 1st round pick. Not saying I would do it, but I would definitely consider it."

Interesting. I thought Luck was the rational choice, he has struggled at times but it is one of the top 12 quarterbacks in the league. I'm not sure what would be expected from RGIII, but apparently there is a rift with him and Shanny.
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Dec 12, 2013 8:29am
Manhattan Buckeye;1552398 wrote:"I would consider RGIII for the Colts 1st round pick. Not saying I would do it, but I would definitely consider it."

Interesting. I thought Luck was the rational choice, he has struggled at times but it is one of the top 12 quarterbacks in the league. I'm not sure what would be expected from RGIII, but apparently there is a rift with him and Shanny.
No. The Browns have the Colts' 1st round pick in the '14 draft. He is saying he would consider trading that pick to Washington for RG3.
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Dec 12, 2013 8:36am
Manhattan Buckeye;1552398 wrote:"I would consider RGIII for the Colts 1st round pick. Not saying I would do it, but I would definitely consider it."

Interesting. I thought Luck was the rational choice, he has struggled at times but it is one of the top 12 quarterbacks in the league. I'm not sure what would be expected from RGIII, but apparently there is a rift with him and Shanny.
Is he really a top 12 QB this year though?
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Dec 12, 2013 9:33am
To me, RG3 is an athlete that plays QB. I want a real QB, not a guy that is going to give defenses trouble for one year because they aren't used to his athletic ability. If anyone that knows anything about football, they can just watch RG3 and simply notice he doesn't have the proper mechanics that most successful QBs have. He is just like Vick, except Vick was a much more exciting player who had more potential IMO. Vick just never developed as a QB, and baed on RG3s season he really hasn't done anything to develop as a QB either. I can see him having some solid seasons just like Vick, but I don't think he would ever be worth 3 first round picks. Hopefully a lot of teams notice this and they won't make ridiculous trades and increasing the value of certain picks.
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Dec 12, 2013 9:45am
SportsAndLady;1552416 wrote:No. The Browns have the Colts' 1st round pick in the '14 draft. He is saying he would consider trading that pick to Washington for RG3.
Any reason to believe that the people who will be in D.C. next year would take that deal?
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Dec 12, 2013 10:11am
Rotinaj;1552420 wrote:Is he really a top 12 QB this year though?
If you watch there games, like me, yes. No doubt. Stats wise, he is probably right around top 10-12, I'm. It sure. But just watch the games. He is playing behind the worst o-line in the nfl again, and no with NO talent at the skill positions. Yet, still has them at 3-3 since the Wayne injury.
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Dec 12, 2013 10:19am
queencitybuckeye;1552452 wrote:Any reason to believe that the people who will be in D.C. next year would take that deal?
It's a hypothetical situation
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Dec 12, 2013 10:26am
like_that;1552444 wrote:To me, RG3 is an athlete that plays QB. I want a real QB, not a guy that is going to give defenses trouble for one year because they aren't used to his athletic ability. If anyone that knows anything about football, they can just watch RG3 and simply notice he doesn't have the proper mechanics that most successful QBs have. He is just like Vick, except Vick was a much more exciting player who had more potential IMO. Vick just never developed as a QB, and baed on RG3s season he really hasn't done anything to develop as a QB either. I can see him having some solid seasons just like Vick, but I don't think he would ever be worth 3 first round picks. Hopefully a lot of teams notice this and they won't make ridiculous trades and increasing the value of certain picks.
Vick also have a cannon for an arm. One of the strongest arms in the league, RG3 isn't in that class.
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Dec 12, 2013 10:29am
RG3 sucks. Let's stop talking about that bum and focus on someone who we can actually get. Thank you.
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Dec 12, 2013 10:34am
DeyDurkie5;1552474 wrote:RG3 sucks. Let's stop talking about that bum and focus on someone who we can actually get. Thank you.
You just don't leave for months and then act like you can change the discussion topic. GTFO.

Anyway, moving on. I think bortles is a great fit.
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Dec 12, 2013 10:45am
like_that;1552476 wrote:You just don't leave for months and then act like you can change the discussion topic. GTFO.

Anyway, moving on. I think bortles is a great fit.
RG3 is the worst. Most overrated athlete of all time. Not too mention he is under contract with the Skins and Dan Snyder's love child. It's stupid to even talk about it.
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Dec 12, 2013 1:12pm
I just thought of something.

Breowns will sign Shaub this offseason to be the browns QB. Watch.

Garcia, Dilfer, Failhomme, Shaub. Makes too much sense not to happen, the most Browns move ever.
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Dec 12, 2013 1:29pm
Commander of Awesome;1552550 wrote:I just thought of something.

Breowns will sign Shaub this offseason to be the browns QB. Watch.

Garcia, Dilfer, Failhomme, Campbell​, Shaub. Makes too much sense not to happen, the most Browns move ever.
FIFY
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Dec 14, 2013 10:45pm
I apologize for not knowing how to quote more than 1 post....but I read thru some of the thread around "the bet" time.....here are 7 pics of the posts that tell the story.

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Dec 14, 2013 10:46pm
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Ironman92
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Dec 14, 2013 10:47pm
So BR, ILikeTurtles and lhslep are the only 3 that committed to it and the one pic shows Tiernan saying that.

the one pic clearly shows like_that wasn't any part of it.

....and obviously my name isn't anywhere on it.

/not dozens
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Dec 14, 2013 10:53pm
Ironman92;1553483 wrote:So BR, ILikeTurtles and lhslep are the only 3 that committed to it and the one pic shows Tiernan saying that.

the one pic clearly shows like_that wasn't any part of it.

....and obviously my name isn't anywhere on it.

/not dozens
BR was only going to commit to it if it was lifetime bet. Pretty sure lhslep decided not to agree with it if tiernan didn't agree to add a month for each person he bet with. So, basically his bet only stands with turtles, who isn't a browns fan. LOLFAIL
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Dec 14, 2013 11:07pm
like_that;1553485 wrote:BR was only going to commit to it if it was lifetime bet. Pretty sure lhslep decided not to agree with it if tiernan didn't agree to add a month for each person he bet with. So, basically his bet only stands with turtles, who isn't a browns fan. LOLFAIL
Just seems odd that he keeps talking about it.....said "dozens" and then included me and it turns out it was 1 person.

I guess I have 24 wives.
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Dec 14, 2013 11:28pm
He always brings up me too. I never participated in that discussion from what I remember. Just randomly throws me in there lol he must have been drunk at the time and doesn't remember who he was betting. Shocker there
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Dec 14, 2013 11:34pm
SportsAndLady;1553505 wrote:He always brings up me too. I never participated in that discussion from what I remember. Just randomly throws me in there lol he must have been drunk at the time and doesn't remember who he was betting. Shocker there
Your posts then said 8-8 but you weren't any part of the bet at all.

It was fairly entertaining reading through a decent portion of this.
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Dec 15, 2013 12:06am
SportsAndLady;1553505 wrote:He always brings up me too. I never participated in that discussion from what I remember. Just randomly throws me in there lol he must have been drunk at the time and doesn't remember who he was betting. Shocker there
Can't possibly expect a deadbeat drunk to get his facts straight.
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Tiernan
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Dec 15, 2013 9:45am
Entertaining. Can't believe Ironsides went thru the gyrations to find all that. So be it ill be happy to see ihslep and Turtles gone for 30 days. BR took himself out already. COA, S&L never had the balls to step up on the first place.
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Dec 15, 2013 10:43am
Tiernan;1553562 wrote:Entertaining. Can't believe Ironsides went thru the gyrations to find all that. So be it ill be happy to see ihslep and Turtles gone for 30 days. BR took himself out already. COA, S&L never had the balls to step up on the first place.
I started by guessing page 200.....then jumped to 220....then 230 I knew I was getting close. Read 230-245. So I read 19 pages of posts on my phone.....or by your numbers 152 pages.