Archive 2013 Cleveland Browns Thread: RIP Chud

Commander of Awesome

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Aug 27, 2013 5:24pm

"BEREA, Ohio -- The Cleveland Browns on Tuesday were awarded Paul Hazel from Jacksonville and Colton Schmidt from San Francisco. The Browns also waived linebacker Kendrick Adams, offensive lineman Dominic Alford, wide receiver Dominique Croom, defensive lineman Nicolas Jean-Baptiste, fullback Owen Marecic, offensive lineman Ryan Miller and tight end Travis Tannahill. In addition, the team placed running back Montario Hardesty on injured reserve and offensive lineman Chris Faulk on reserve/non-football injury."

Don't understand not cutting Hardesty if you're going to IR him. He's in the last yr of his deal I believe and could have been picked up by another squad to play this yr. They're basically fucking him over, I bet his career will be over now.

Commander of Awesome

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Aug 27, 2013 6:22pm

Apparently Hurtesty's knee was worse than reported.

http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/82064/browns-place-montario-hardesty-on-ir

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BR1986FB

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Aug 28, 2013 10:31am

Quite surprised Marecic was released. :laugh:

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BR1986FB

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Aug 28, 2013 10:42am

I see Chud changed his mind and will now rest most of the starters against Chicago.

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Sonofanump

Aug 28, 2013 10:55am

BR1986FB;1492353 wrote:I see Chud changed his mind and will now rest most of the starters against Chicago.

AKA practice hard this week like you are going to play because you might and the day before I'll announce your resting.

Commander of Awesome

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Aug 28, 2013 11:03am

BR1986FB;1492353 wrote:I see Chud changed his mind and will now rest most of the starters against Chicago.

Thank god, glad to see Chud doesn't have his head up his ass like Patty boy.

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BR1986FB

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Aug 28, 2013 11:18am

Commander of Awesome;1492367 wrote:Thank god, glad to see Chud doesn't have his head up his ass like Patty boy.

Is this a joke? Shurmur should've probably thrown Weeden out there in that 4th preseason game last year. He might not have looked like total dog shit against the Eagles in the opener.

like_that

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Aug 28, 2013 11:31am

BR1986FB;1492389 wrote:Is this a joke? Shurmur should've probably thrown Weeden out there in that 4th preseason game last year. He might not have looked like total dog shit against the Eagles in the opener.

I think he just meant more in general.

Commander of Awesome

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Aug 28, 2013 11:34am

like_that;1492400 wrote:I think he just meant more in general.

Yeah I meant more general. Don't want Joe GOAThomas, Haden, DQ, Dline, etc out there. No point. Shouldn't risk injury.

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BR1986FB

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Aug 28, 2013 11:36am

Commander of Awesome;1492403 wrote:Yeah I meant more general. Don't want Joe GOAThomas, Haden, DQ, Dline, etc out there. No point. Shouldn't risk injury.

Although the defense looked like shit against Indy, I would've liked to have seen the offense have one last tune up prior to Miami.

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Con_Alma

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Aug 28, 2013 11:40am

I agree with sitting Thomas and Haden. I might actually play weeden the first series.

It's not *like this is Brady or Luck. This team isn't good enough yet to start protecting players because the franchise is expected to make a deep playoff run.

Commander of Awesome

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Aug 28, 2013 11:42am

BR1986FB;1492405 wrote:Although the defense looked like shit against Indy, I would've liked to have seen the offense have one last tune up prior to Miami.

Just like with Indy, we're not running our actual packages/showing anything prior to the game, so no point to go out there and run a junk (patty boy) offense.

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BR1986FB

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Aug 28, 2013 11:48am

Con_Alma;1492408 wrote:I agree with sitting Thomas and Haden. I might actually play weeden the first series.

It's not this is Brady or Luck. This team isn't good enough yet to start protecting players because the franchise is expected to make a deep playoff run.

I agree. It's not like Weeden is an elite QB at this point. Dude is still a second year QB in his second offensive system in two years. He can use as many reps as possible, regardless of how vanilla the scheme may be.

Rotinaj

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Aug 28, 2013 11:59am

He may not be an elite QB but if he goes down we go from maybe a 7 or 8 win season to probably 3 or 4. Playing 2 series or whatever in the final preseason game isn't going to make him any better.

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Con_Alma

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Aug 28, 2013 12:03pm

Rotinaj;1492420 wrote:He may not be an elite QB but if he goes down we go from maybe a 7 or 8 win season to probably 3 or 4. Playing 2 series or whatever in the final preseason game isn't going to make him any better.

The difference between a 7or 8 win season vs a 3 or 4 is what....four draft spots?

The point is, it doesn't really matter right now if you sit or play him. It's not a pressing issue.

like_that

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Aug 28, 2013 12:05pm

Con_Alma;1492421 wrote:The difference between a 7or 8 win season vs a 3 or 4 is what....four draft spots?

The point is, it doesn't really matter right now if you sit or play him. It's not a pressing issue.

If you don't see the difference between a young team with a history of losing winning 8 or 4 games, then I don't know what to tell you.

Rotinaj

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Aug 28, 2013 12:06pm

Sorry, im not thinking about draft spots. Im thinking about how much more enjoyable the team will be for me to watch if they won 8 opposed to 4.

like_that

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Aug 28, 2013 12:08pm

Rotinaj;1492423 wrote:Sorry, im not thinking about draft spots. Im thinking about how much more enjoyable the team will be for me to watch if they won 8 opposed to 4.

That, and it would be nice for a young team to have something to build on. Can't bank on a team to just one day go from 2-4 wins to playoff contention. Some teams need to go through a natural progression to playoff contention.

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Con_Alma

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Aug 28, 2013 12:10pm

I'm not thinking draft spots either. It's the only thing I could think if that was a real difference between the scenarios presented.

The bottom line for me is, play him...don't play him....in the grand scheme of where this team is and where they are trying to get to, it just doesn't matter. Weeden won't be the guy at that position when they take the big step towards playoff wins.

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BR1986FB

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Aug 28, 2013 12:10pm

If they only win 7 or 8, I think we see another blowup at the QB spot. He's either going to have to play off the charts or I think they will draft their "QB to be" next April.

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Con_Alma

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Aug 28, 2013 12:10pm

like_that;1492425 wrote:That, and it would be nice for a young team to have something to build on. Can't bank on a team to just one day go from 2-4 wins to playoff contention. Some teams need to go through a natural progression to playoff contention.

I don't disagree with that at all.

bases_loaded

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Aug 28, 2013 12:10pm

Week 4 is for guys fighting for a roster spot and being showcased for trades. How the Jets or Bills haven't called us about Campbell I don't understand. But maybe they will after tomorrow nights game.

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Con_Alma

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Aug 28, 2013 12:10pm

BR1986FB;1492428 wrote:If they only win 7 or 8, I think we see another blowup at the QB spot. He's either going to have to play off the charts or I think they will draft their "QB to be" next April.

Bingo.

SportsAndLady

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Aug 28, 2013 12:11pm

I don't care if we go 8-8 or 4-12 (assuming we miss the playoffs). Both are seasons in which we are watching the playoffs at home.

8-8 will obviously be a more enjoyable season..the end results are the same yet we'll have a worse draft position

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BR1986FB

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Aug 28, 2013 12:13pm

SportsAndLady;1492432 wrote:I don't care if we go 8-8 or 4-12 (assuming we miss the playoffs). Both are seasons in which we are watching the playoffs at home.

8-8 will obviously be a more enjoyable season..the end results are the same yet we'll have a worse draft position

Agreed. I don't want a "tweener" season.