2013 Cleveland Browns Thread: RIP Chud

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Jan 3, 2013 12:43pm
Crimson streak;1356620 wrote:Hardesty*
Richardson*
Gordon*
Weeden*
Haden*
Kurt Cousins*
Hanford*
Minnifield*

Holy hell you butchered everyone's name
LOL
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Jan 3, 2013 12:43pm
Wow footwedge....just wow.
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Jan 3, 2013 12:53pm
My e-sarcasm may be off but I think he was having a little fun with like_that
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Jan 3, 2013 1:07pm
Benny The Jet;1356641 wrote:My e-sarcasm may be off but I think he was having a little fun with like_that
Methinks you're right.
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Jan 3, 2013 1:16pm
Another good article from about 2 months ago on the fundamentals of Chip Kelly's offense. Really hoping he's the next Browns coach.

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8631595/the-success-chip-kelly-oregon-ducks-offense-more-familiar-seems
Time will undoubtedly tell whether Kelly's offense can work in the NFL, but my vote is that it will. It would require Kelly finding the right players, but a Chip Kelly–coached NFL team would win for the same reasons that the Chip Kelly–coached college team wins. Behind the speed, the spread, the Daft Punk helmets, and the flashy uniforms, Oregon ultimately wins with old-fashioned, fundamental, run-it-up-the-gut football. I think everyone, even fans of the spread offense, can appreciate that.
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Jan 3, 2013 1:19pm
Footwedge;1356611 wrote:I'm concerned about Richerdson's durability. How about you? Thankfully, Hardisty showed promise. I was right about the emergence of Gorden, wasn't I?

Not sold on Weedon. I think they should investigate nabbing Curt Couzins.

In the draft, I would focus in on getting another shutdown corner. Joe Hadin could use a bookend....aka Hanferd and Minnofield.

Silly footwedge, I see what you did there. To answer your question I'm concerned about t rich, but if he comes into the season 100% healthy unlike this season, then I expect a big year out of him. Especially with a coach who understands how to use his talent.
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Jan 3, 2013 1:21pm
mucalum49;1356667 wrote:Another good article from about 2 months ago on the fundamentals of Chip Kelly's offense. Really hoping he's the next Browns coach.

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8631595/the-success-chip-kelly-oregon-ducks-offense-more-familiar-seems

My other concern with Kelly is will they just neglect the defense? Lots of defensive talent this draft that I would hate to pass up on.
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Jan 3, 2013 2:09pm
like_that;1356672 wrote:My other concern with Kelly is will they just neglect the defense? Lots of defensive talent this draft that I would hate to pass up on.
True. I just don't think there is good enough offensive players to take at #6 even if Kelly takes over. Only person I could think is the guard from Alabama and that's even a major stretch. WalterFootball's latest mock yesterday had us taking Te'o at 6. I like the sound of that.
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Jan 3, 2013 2:11pm
mucalum49;1356701 wrote:True. I just don't think there is good enough offensive players to take at #6 even if Kelly takes over. Only person I could think is the guard from Alabama and that's even a major stretch. WalterFootball's latest mock yesterday had us taking Te'o at 6. I like the sound of that.
I sure as fuck dont. I dont ever like taking LBers in the top 10, they don't make enough plays. Look at Raiders, they took the LBer McClain from Alabama who was a superior prospect to Te'o. Looking like a shitty pick now.
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Jan 3, 2013 2:14pm
Hard to take any mock draft serious until they hire a HC
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Jan 3, 2013 2:18pm
mucalum49;1356701 wrote:True. I just don't think there is good enough offensive players to take at #6 even if Kelly takes over. Only person I could think is the guard from Alabama and that's even a major stretch. WalterFootball's latest mock yesterday had us taking Te'o at 6. I like the sound of that.
I don't think the guard from Alabama (warmack) is that much of a stretch. If the Browns trade down a few spots somehow, they could still get him, and get their 2nd back. Warmack is considered by some one of the best guard prospects to come out in awhile. I wouldn't shed a tear if the Browns got Warmack.
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Jan 3, 2013 2:22pm
Honestly id trade up and snag Geno Smith. He could run Kelly's offense to a T. :laugh:
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Jan 3, 2013 2:24pm
Yes please on Geno Smith
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Jan 3, 2013 2:26pm
^^^ lol please. Did you watch his bowl game?
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Jan 3, 2013 2:37pm
shook_17;1356716 wrote:^^^ lol please. Did you watch his bowl game?
You don't base your analysis on one game.

That being said, I'm not a fan of Geno Smith either. But I think S&L is just in the anybody but Weeden camp.
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Jan 3, 2013 2:37pm
shook_17;1356716 wrote:^^^ lol please. Did you watch his bowl game?
I did, while he didn't play amazing, he wasn't terrible.

The WVU defense, like all season, was pathetic. The conditions were also shit.
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Jan 3, 2013 2:41pm
Commander of Awesome;1356702 wrote:I sure as fuck dont. I dont ever like taking LBers in the top 10, they don't make enough plays. Look at Raiders, they took the LBer McClain from Alabama who was a superior prospect to Te'o. Looking like a shitty pick now.
What about Luke Kuechly? He was a great pick for Carolina at #9 last year. Whether he was their biggest need on defense is debateable but he had a great rookie season; is a leader and has a head on his shoulders. McClain is a dumbass. I see Te'o as a safe/solid pick more like Kuechly than McClain but that's just my opinion.
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Jan 3, 2013 2:47pm
shook_17;1356716 wrote:^^^ lol please. Did you watch his bowl game?
Wat exactly is wrong with 16/24 197 yards 2 tds and 0 ints?
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Jan 3, 2013 2:51pm
^^ his two safeties because he has no pocket awarness? stats lie.
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Jan 3, 2013 2:58pm
shook_17;1356731 wrote:stats lie.
Yet you couldn't see how big a bust Weeden was gonna be? Lol
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Jan 3, 2013 3:00pm
Shook is trolling. He didn't watch.
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Jan 3, 2013 3:07pm
Automatik;1356742 wrote:Shook is trolling. He didn't watch.

lolololol
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Jan 3, 2013 3:08pm
SportsAndLady;1356738 wrote:Yet you couldn't see how big a bust Weeden was gonna be? Lol
yet you want to draft a qb in the first round for the next 5 years. lol. your hate for weeden is simply amazing. you would rather be right and watch the browns lose.
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Jan 3, 2013 3:20pm
mucalum49;1356724 wrote:What about Luke Kuechly? He was a great pick for Carolina at #9 last year. Whether he was their biggest need on defense is debateable but he had a great rookie season; is a leader and has a head on his shoulders. McClain is a dumbass. I see Te'o as a safe/solid pick more like Kuechly than McClain but that's just my opinion.
Not a value pick IMO. Didn't help the Panthers make the playoffs. ILB just don't have the impact on the game to warrant a top 10 pick.
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Jan 3, 2013 3:20pm
Also we have DQ, not worth the pick. Also don't think Te'o is near the prospect that Luke Kuechly is/was.