Archive The Steubenville incident v. Anonymous

SportsAndLady

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Jan 2, 2013 9:18pm

ytownfootball;1356131 wrote:Nah, just how callous he was toward the whole situation, no code...just ignorance.

Yep.

killer_ewok

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Jan 2, 2013 9:18pm

Prinnie will be discussing this case on CNN tomorrow morning sometime between 7-10.

ZWICK 4 PREZ

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Jan 2, 2013 9:19pm

Fab1b;1356128 wrote:No assumption on my part to me it was obvious as another poster just posted the same thought as well it was their term form the girl they raped by either drugging or getting her seriously hammered and referring to her as the dead girl "allegedly"!</SPAN>

i guess I'm not sure how its not an assumption unless you're involved or privy to inside information down there. I've certainly never heard of someone drugged as "dead"

bases_loaded

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Jan 2, 2013 9:20pm

Fab1b;1356107 wrote:No the term "Dead Girl" was referring to possibly drugged or seriously a comatose girl, this was their "code" for it

Thank you, didn't think I'd have to explain it ha.

fish82

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Jan 2, 2013 9:20pm

ZWICK 4 PREZ;1356123 wrote:Obviously but the kid in the video was speaking like she was actually dead. Not some inside code for drugged

If you read their tweets from August it's obvious what they're talking about in the video.

bases_loaded

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Jan 2, 2013 9:22pm

Fab1b;1356115 wrote:Did you read the tweets they released? To me it was obvious that was a "code"

This

Anyone who has read the tweets would understand they refer to these girls as dead bodies. I believe one tweet said "saw my first dead body tonight"

ZWICK 4 PREZ

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Jan 2, 2013 9:22pm

Fab1b;1356132 wrote:Dead as in too fucked up to move, etc....... not dead literally

Sure.. But I have a hard time believing that's their code especially since no one else was up on it. You're making it sound like its their rape code

xKoToVxSyNdRoMe

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Jan 2, 2013 9:22pm

ZWICK 4 PREZ;1356136 wrote:i guess I'm not sure how its not an assumption unless you're involved or privy to inside information down there. I've certainly never heard of someone drugged as "dead"

That's why it seems they have used the term before. None of them or the people talking on twitter were acting as if they thought she was actually dead. They seemed to know it meant something else which would mean they have used the term for this before.

jordo212000

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Jan 2, 2013 9:23pm

ZWICK 4 PREZ;1356136 wrote:i guess I'm not sure how its not an assumption unless you're involved or privy to inside information down there. I've certainly never heard of someone drugged as "dead"

Are you suggesting the two football players were having sex with a dead person?

OSH

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Jan 2, 2013 9:25pm

Fab1b;1356132 wrote:Dead as in too ****ed up to move, etc....... not dead literally

This is it. It's been stated numerous times that no one was "dead," it actually is a "code" or "term" the "Rape Crew" uses.

ZWICK 4 PREZ

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Jan 2, 2013 9:25pm

I'm saying it got picked up bc of what this dumbass said. The tweets are nearlyl word for word what he was talking about .. Even the "wang in the butt" that someone else tweeted. To me it looks like people saw the video and were talking about it. Not that these kids have an underground code for rape.

Fab1b

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Jan 2, 2013 9:25pm

Ok you are correct its an assumption I guess since they haven't actually come out and say it's their code but really you don't think that it is code, that is if you actually read all the tweets about the "dead girl"? I am also pretty sure wang in the butt means exactly that too LOL.

jordo212000

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Jan 2, 2013 9:27pm

Fab1b;1356151 wrote:Ok you are correct its an assumption I guess since they haven't actually come out and say it's their code but really you don't think that it is code, that is if you actually read all the tweets about the "dead girl"?

Again.. If you don't believe it is code, you have to believe they were actually having sex with a dead person. You also have to disregard all of the people asking about what would happen if she woke up.

It's clear dead = incapacitated

ZWICK 4 PREZ

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Jan 2, 2013 9:28pm

jordo212000;1356146 wrote:Are you suggesting the two football players were having sex with a dead person?

I'm suggesting it caught on after what was said, and there's not a universal term for drugged women. The same reason other kids were tweeting what this dumbass said in the video

fish82

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Jan 2, 2013 9:29pm

There's no evidence that "dead" is their code for rape. That said, it's painfully obvious that in this particular case/video, "dead" refers to the victim being intoxicated to the point of unconsciousness..

GoChiefs

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Jan 2, 2013 9:29pm

Actually, if I remember right, didn't that Cody kid come out and say that was the term for the girls they had raped? I think it's rather obvious they all are aware what the term "dead" means.

jordo212000

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Jan 2, 2013 9:29pm

ZWICK 4 PREZ;1356154 wrote:I'm suggesting it caught on after what was said, and there's not a universal term for drugged women. The same reason other kids were tweeting what this dumbass said in the video

Or it could be that this wasn't their first time and that it was the reason they dubbed themselves the "Rape Crew" but ok

ZWICK 4 PREZ

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Jan 2, 2013 9:31pm

GoChiefs;1356156 wrote:Actually, if I remember right, didn't that Cody kid come out and say that was the term for the girls they had raped? I think it's rather obvious they all are aware what the term "dead" means.

No but Cody did repeat a lot of what was said in the video. Hence where this "dead girl" came from.

Fab1b

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Jan 2, 2013 9:31pm

I just don't get how one couldn't think that it was their code for a person in that condition after all that has come out?

GoChiefs

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Jan 2, 2013 9:32pm

Fab1b;1356162 wrote:I just don't get how one couldn't think that it was their code for a person in that condition after all that has come out?

Apparently, the obvious isn't obvious.

ytownfootball

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Jan 2, 2013 9:32pm

Irrespective of semantics, what was being discussed seems pretty universal.

Fab1b

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Jan 2, 2013 9:32pm

I guess we can agree to disagree on the "code" however I don't think there is any disagreeing that this "dead" girl was raped

killer_ewok

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Jan 2, 2013 9:33pm

GoChiefs

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Jan 2, 2013 9:33pm

ZWICK 4 PREZ;1356160 wrote:No but Cody did repeat a lot of what was said in the video. Hence where this "dead girl" came from.

I'm pretty sure he did, but I'm on my phone, so I don't care to look it up.

sherm03

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Jan 2, 2013 9:33pm

Fab1b;1356162 wrote:I just don't get how one couldn't think that it was their code for a person in that condition after all that has come out?

It's definitely a code for a person in that condition. I don't think anyone is debating that.

I think the question is whether or not it's the term used for a rape victim. They could call anyone that is passed out drunk a "dead body" and not necessarily save that term specifically for rape victims.

I may be mistaken, but I think that's the point Zwick is making here.