After the video's release, local residents and organizations as disparate as Anonymous and the Ohio chapter of the National Organization of Women called for the teen's arrest, further straining relations between residents and officials. Police maintained there was nothing they could do legally.
The live feed showed a short, fat, bald, stupid-looking older man. Was that Sackashit?Heretic;1404984 wrote:http://sports.yahoo.com/news/highschool--steubenville-rape-trial-divides-ohio-town-052958178.html
Steuby's the main story on Yahoo Sports, or at least was when I posted this.
I just wonder if the "older man in a ratty jacket" mentioned here is Thickthintard.
...from the Yahoo article. I did not know this....Both will be tried as juveniles, which means even if they receive the maximum punishment, they will be free at age 21....
Con_Alma;1405004 wrote:...fromt the Yahoo article. I did not know this.
juveniles are rarely if ever tried as adults for first offenses..especially when a case has so much uncertaintygport_tennis;1405013 wrote:That's was part of the reason anon was outraged. There might have possibly been some backroom deals to ensure they were not tried as adults
Gblock;1405034 wrote:juveniles are rarely if ever tried as adults for first offenses..especially when a case has so much uncertainty
actually they usually are a serious crime like rape or why would it come up? even so its still a first offense. now if the circumstances were more agregious then maybe.gport_tennis;1405035 wrote:First offenses usually aren't rape...
Worse than driving a passed out girl around from party to party while people take turns raping her? (I feel like I must have misunderstood what you meant. Either that or you are channeling FWK)Gblock;1405041 wrote: now if the circumstances were more agregious then maybe.
im not sure that that will be the facts of the case once they come out in trial, but yes there are worse things than that.FatHobbit;1405075 wrote:Worse than driving a passed out girl around from party to party while people take turns raping her? (I feel like I must have misunderstood what you meant. Either that or you are channeling FWK)
Gblock;1405083 wrote:im not sure that that will be the facts of the case once they come out in trial,
And there are worse things, but I think what has been alleged would be sufficient to not try them as minors.Gblock;1405083 wrote:but yes there are worse things than that.
me personally, in any case if its your first offense and you made a mistake im willing to give you the benefit of the doubt. teens do a lot of stupid things especially if alcohol is involved. there is plenty of stupidity and blame to go around in this case including parents, the rest of the kids who were there, the two kids charged obvoiusly and to some extent the girl who was assaulted.FatHobbit;1405092 wrote:I can agree with that for sure. There is a lot of speculation and rumor going on in this case.
And there are worse things, but I think what has been alleged would be sufficient to not try them as minors.
CNN has one as well with better sound, although so far, all witnesses have declined being recorded.Pick6;1405175 wrote:Here is a live stream if anybody is interested http://www.wtov9.com/videos/news/wtov-live-video/vD4xz/
sportchampps;1405188 wrote:So if I'm a teen and I murder someone as long as it was my first mistake you think I should only be in prison till I'm 21.
happens all the time... from personal experience two summers ago one of my students was shot on the porch just north of osu campus, by another student who was only 16 and he only got 3 1/2 years. google it july 2010. students name was dequan nix who died...cant remember the other guys name but he was always a problem in class.sportchampps;1405188 wrote:So if I'm a teen and I murder someone as long as it was my first mistake you think I should only be in prison till I'm 21.
Gblock;1405096 wrote:me personally, in any case if its your first offense and you made a mistake im willing to give you the benefit of the doubt. teens do a lot of stupid things especially if alcohol is involved. there is plenty of stupidity and blame to go around in this case including parents, the rest of the kids who were there, the two kids charged obvoiusly and to some extent the girl who was assaulted.
if they have had previous run ins or a pattern was established then i can see adult trial
also before i get treated like fwk...im not talkin guilt or innocence here...i dont know all the facts as no one here does. im strictly speaking about whether or not i feel they should be charged as adults and why.
Id say he agrees with it.gport_tennis;1405258 wrote:I don't think he is saying he necessarily agrees with it, he's just saying how it is