7 Absurd Ways the Military Wastes Our Money

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Dec 13, 2012 5:30 PM
I agree. Let's reduce the size of the general corps. We can start with our union thug-loving Commander-in-Chief.
Dec 13, 2012 5:30pm
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Dec 13, 2012 6:35 PM
If you got in there and cut-out the waste I bet at least a $100B wouldn't be missed.
Dec 13, 2012 6:35pm
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Dec 13, 2012 6:44 PM
The golf one is kinda dumb. Because while the military pays to build them on every base, you don't play for free. For my wife's rank (0-2), I pay $36 plus cart fee of $10. Take out the ocean views and its no different then courses back home.
Klipper on the marine base I pay about $50. Views on that course are incredible. But they're making money. You'll need to call almost 2 weeks ahead to get a tee time.


But the military does waste a ton of money, I can agree with that.
Dec 13, 2012 6:44pm
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Dec 13, 2012 6:45 PM
Military spending needs cut. Big time. It's pretty simple. Cut military spending by ~40% immediately. That would take us back to 2003 military spending (~$400b).
Dec 13, 2012 6:45pm
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Dec 13, 2012 7:09 PM
justincredible;1342209 wrote:Military spending needs cut. Big time. It's pretty simple. Cut military spending by ~40% immediately. That would take us back to 2003 military spending (~$400b).
Maybe not IMMEDIATELY, but over 3-4 years I'd agree. $400B sounds about right, too.

And, in general, looking the other way on padded govt contracts, subsidies, etc.. is a huge problem for the military as well as those on the Hill.
Dec 13, 2012 7:09pm
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Dec 13, 2012 7:10 PM
The best way to appear as though you have balls without having to actually put your life at risk is to support absurd military spending. Unlikely Washington will touch it.
Dec 13, 2012 7:10pm
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Dec 13, 2012 7:14 PM
Midstate01;1342208 wrote: But they're making money. You'll need to call almost 2 weeks ahead to get a tee time.
So let me get this straight...the golf courses are profitable because the enlisted people that we pay, provide housing for, etc...pay a decent fee and have the courses booked? So then one way to make them MORE profitable would be to raise the course prices and then pay our troops more?
Dec 13, 2012 7:14pm
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Dec 13, 2012 7:22 PM
gut;1342222 wrote:Maybe not IMMEDIATELY, but over 3-4 years I'd agree. $400B sounds about right, too.

And, in general, looking the other way on padded govt contracts, subsidies, etc.. is a huge problem for the military as well as those on the Hill.
Yeah. I meant start making cuts immediately and work down to $400b over the next couple years. I guess my first post doesn't really read that way.
Dec 13, 2012 7:22pm
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Dec 13, 2012 7:23 PM
gut;1342228 wrote:So let me get this straight...the golf courses are profitable because the enlisted people that we pay, provide housing for, etc...pay a decent fee and have the courses booked? So then one way to make them MORE profitable would be to raise the course prices and then pay our troops more?

If you don't have perks for a job that asks you to put your life on the line, then why would anyone join? There's sacrifices in being military too.

BUT I'll again leave a thread that's about military because I'm obv bias.
Dec 13, 2012 7:23pm
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Dec 13, 2012 7:24 PM
James Gatz;1342223 wrote:The best way to appear as though you have balls without having to actually put your life at risk is to support absurd military spending. Unlikely Washington will touch it.
I'd rather the guys in Washington just walk around with their balls hanging out.
Dec 13, 2012 7:24pm
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Dec 13, 2012 7:28 PM
justincredible;1342233 wrote:I'd rather the guys in Washington just walk around with their balls hanging out.
Dec 13, 2012 7:28pm
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Dec 13, 2012 7:36 PM
Midstate01;1342232 wrote:If you don't have perks for a job that asks you to put your life on the line, then why would anyone join?
I don't know, maybe the money? The pensions? The free education? The free housing? I'm guessing they're not joining for the golf and ski lodge.

I don't think they are overpaid or anything. I'm just laughing at you claiming the courses are profitable when it's just money passed from one hand to another.
Dec 13, 2012 7:36pm
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Dec 13, 2012 10:35 PM
Yes there need to be cuts in the military budget. But with the whole sequestration thingy, the military is the only department that will actually experience real spending cuts next year. Every other department, agency, bureaucracy, etc., will only at best see reductions in the rate of automatic spending increases.

Add to that the fact that defense takes up 18% of the federal budget, and you can see why there's a whole lot of other things driving our deficits.
Dec 13, 2012 10:35pm
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Dec 13, 2012 11:32 PM
as people line up one after another to spit on the military with their knives so ready to cut away, maybe we should remember what is the most admired institution in our nation.
75% of american have a great deal or quite alot trust in the military
and who we have the least faith in, who scrapes the bottom
big business 21%
HMOs 19%
Congress 13%
http://www.gallup.com/poll/1597/confidence-institutions.aspx
Dec 13, 2012 11:32pm
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Dec 13, 2012 11:46 PM
believer;1342168 wrote:I agree. Let's reduce the size of the general corps. We can start with our union thug-loving Commander-in-Chief.
You had your chance last month but you put your faith in Mitt.
Dec 13, 2012 11:46pm
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Dec 15, 2012 9:18 AM
Government spending will never decrease. That is, unless we get a new one and start over.
Dec 15, 2012 9:18am
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Dec 15, 2012 9:24 AM
BGFalcons82;1343582 wrote:Government spending will never decrease. That is, unless we get a new one and start over.
gosh a ruddies where have you been? We have a new gubmint headed by our first African American president who - in his infinite divine wisdom - will lead us into bliss, nirvana, and happiness. We need only trust that gubmint has an answer for all our social ills, surrender our freedoms & liberties to the benevolent state, and kiss his golden ring to earn our entitled place in the New Kingdom.
Dec 15, 2012 9:24am
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Dec 15, 2012 9:28 AM
believer;1343584 wrote:gosh a ruddies where have you been? We have a new gubmint headed by our first African American president who - in his infinite divine wisdom - will lead us into bliss, nirvana, and happiness. We need only trust that gubmint has an answer for all our social ills, surrender our freedoms & liberties to the benevolent state, and kiss his golden ring to earn our entitled place in the New Kingdom.
we are so lucky he was reelected to his second term in office by the majority of voting Americans. good to see representative democracy in action.
Dec 15, 2012 9:28am
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Dec 17, 2012 8:02 AM
gosh a ruddies our first muslim president lord and savior will lead us to further government reliance and allow the first of the month to still be a holy day in which we load high end steaks into our escalades and take money away from those who rightful earned it salvation will be ours and those who produce goods and services will be redeemed to give to whose who do nothing productive because that would be fair if salvation is reached military protection will no longer be needed from those who want to destroy us
Dec 17, 2012 8:02am
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Dec 17, 2012 8:31 AM
Midstate01;1342208 wrote:The golf one is kinda dumb. Because while the military pays to build them on every base, you don't play for free. For my wife's rank (0-2), I pay $36 plus cart fee of $10. Take out the ocean views and its no different then courses back home.
Klipper on the marine base I pay about $50. Views on that course are incredible. But they're making money. You'll need to call almost 2 weeks ahead to get a tee time.


But the military does waste a ton of money, I can agree with that.
Where do the profits go?
Dec 17, 2012 8:31am
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Dec 17, 2012 8:35 AM
Sonofanump;1345265 wrote:gosh a ruddies our first muslim president lord and savior will lead us to further government reliance and allow the first of the month to still be a holy day in which we load high end steaks into our escalades and take money away from those who rightful earned it salvation will be ours and those who produce goods and services will be redeemed to give to whose who do nothing productive because that would be fair if salvation is reached military protection will no longer be needed from those who want to destroy us
lol. Reps.
Dec 17, 2012 8:35am
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isadore

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Dec 17, 2012 8:37 AM
Sonofanump;1345265 wrote:gosh a ruddies our first muslim president lord and savior will lead us to further government reliance and allow the first of the month to still be a holy day in which we load high end steaks into our escalades and take money away from those who rightful earned it salvation will be ours and those who produce goods and services will be redeemed to give to whose who do nothing productive because that would be fair if salvation is reached military protection will no longer be needed from those who want to destroy us
gosh a ruddies we are so lucky our first African American President made the personal sacrifice of deciding to run for a second term as our leader. Then the wise majority of American voters realizing how lucky we are to be lead by Barack Obama reelected him for a second term.
Dec 17, 2012 8:37am
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Dec 17, 2012 11:06 AM
isadore;1345291 wrote:gosh a ruddies we are so lucky our first African American President made the personal sacrifice of deciding to run for a second term as our leader. Then the wise majority of American voters realizing how lucky we are to be lead by Barack Obama reelected him for a second term.
Was he born in Africa? If not then he's not African American, he's a black American.

And to be 100% correct he's actually mullato American President.
Dec 17, 2012 11:06am
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Dec 17, 2012 12:14 PM
jmog;1345427 wrote:Was he born in Africa? If not then he's not African American, he's a black American.

And to be 100% correct he's actually mullato American President.
And only idiots think is is a muslim. I hope he was joking.
Dec 17, 2012 12:14pm