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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Dec 9, 2012 10:07am
The 2013 Heisman Watch is officially on as OSU Soph QB, Braxton Miller firmly established himself as the "Frontrunner" for next year's award by finishing fifth in last night's voting.
Miller's victory will give the Buckeyes 8 all-time Heisman winners making them the college team with the most Heisman wins ever.
There is a fairly good chance Miller could win back-to-back Heismans in 2014 making OSU the only school with dual winners because as we all know only one man on the planet uses Heisman trophies as bookends and that man is the great Archie Griffin, from where? Why Theee Ohio State University of course.
Nobody will ever hear of Johnny Man-zier again...that is all.
Miller's victory will give the Buckeyes 8 all-time Heisman winners making them the college team with the most Heisman wins ever.
There is a fairly good chance Miller could win back-to-back Heismans in 2014 making OSU the only school with dual winners because as we all know only one man on the planet uses Heisman trophies as bookends and that man is the great Archie Griffin, from where? Why Theee Ohio State University of course.
Nobody will ever hear of Johnny Man-zier again...that is all.
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Dec 9, 2012 10:42am
I could see Boyd winning it next year actually. He's gonna be my dark horse
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Dec 9, 2012 11:59am
Lol. Gawd, cc is stoopid
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Dec 9, 2012 2:18pm
He had a better season that two previous Heisman winners (Tebow and Newton), and broke their records.ccrunner609;1339075 wrote:I was posting about Manzell and how weak he is as a heisman winner, with that.......someone else will win next year
Speedofsand
Posts: 5,529
Dec 9, 2012 2:45pm
If Miller don't win, its because he is black.
Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Dec 9, 2012 2:57pm
*doesn'tSpeedofsand;1339115 wrote:If Miller don't win, its because he is black.
*it's
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Speedofsand
Posts: 5,529
Dec 9, 2012 3:15pm
*when on Ohio internet, speak same language.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Dec 9, 2012 3:56pm
If Ball played in the SEC he would have been in New York.
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Dec 9, 2012 4:04pm
If Ball played at ND he would have won it!WebFire;1339201 wrote:If Ball played in the SEC he would have been in New York.
...and he wouldn't have needed the stats to earn it.
Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Dec 9, 2012 4:13pm
Speedofsand;1339163 wrote:*when on Ohio internet, speak same language.
*not on Ohio Internet.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Dec 9, 2012 4:57pm
Wrong, because he wouldn't have had the kind of season, with the stats, that he had this year in the B1G if he played in the SEC.WebFire;1339201 wrote:If Ball played in the SEC he would have been in New York.
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Dec 9, 2012 4:59pm
Braxton has a LONG way to go to sniff a Heisman win. His decision making just isn't there yet, not saying he won't improve over the offseason. He needs to learn how to read a defense pre-snap. There were many times this year he misread the DE and kept it when he should not have and the other way around. I never thought he was a legitimate contender this year, and he has a long way to go to get there next year.
Trueblue23
Posts: 7,463
Dec 9, 2012 5:01pm
I think the guy who won it is the favorite by default.
GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Dec 9, 2012 5:03pm
Trueblue23;1339268 wrote:I think the guy who won it is the favorite by default.
Don't speak logic.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Dec 9, 2012 5:05pm
Trueblue23;1339268 wrote:I think the guy who won it is the favorite by default.
Consider the OP, then rethink logicGoChiefs;1339271 wrote:Don't speak logic.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Dec 9, 2012 5:05pm
Does that apply to Braxton then?vball10set;1339265 wrote:Wrong, because he wouldn't have had the kind of season, with the stats, that he had this year in the B1G if he played in the SEC.
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Coach_08
Posts: 162
Dec 9, 2012 5:09pm
Braxton better get better at throwing the ball if you want him to win the Heisman next year. Plus being the favorite at the start of the year is almost a curse. Look at the last three winners Cam, RGIII and Manzel. None of them were even considered when the season started.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Dec 9, 2012 5:10pm
You made the statement about Ball, so that's what I addressed. Do you concur?WebFire;1339274 wrote:Does that apply to Braxton then?
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ksig489
Posts: 943
Dec 9, 2012 5:10pm
Because the Heisman clearly has a history of not awarding black players.Speedofsand;1339115 wrote:If Miller don't win, its because he is black.
mtp2013
Posts: 783
Dec 9, 2012 5:17pm
OSU fans are delusional. LOL
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Dec 9, 2012 5:19pm
I don't know. Ball is pretty good. I think he could have done well in the SEC. But you were bashing the strength of the B1G, were you not? If so,then that same ideal applies to Braxton. Do you concur?vball10set;1339280 wrote:You made the statement about Ball, so that's what I addressed. Do you concur?
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Dec 9, 2012 5:26pm
Definitely. I think the B1G will be (hopefully) better next year, so we'll be able to get a better gauge on how good Braxton is. That, and he'll have another year under Urban's tutelage.WebFire;1339291 wrote:I don't know. Ball is pretty good. I think he could have done well in the SEC. But you were bashing the strength of the B1G, were you not? If so,then that same ideal applies to Braxton. Do you concur?
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Dec 9, 2012 5:52pm
Do you think Ball would not have been successful in the SEC?vball10set;1339298 wrote:Definitely. I think the B1G will be (hopefully) better next year, so we'll be able to get a better gauge on how good Braxton is. That, and he'll have another year under Urban's tutelage.
Rotinaj
Posts: 7,699
Dec 9, 2012 6:24pm
Reading posts from Tiernan and CC in th same thread almost made my head explode.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Dec 9, 2012 6:38pm
Not as successful, no. I think the rush defenses are better in the SEC than in the B1G.WebFire;1339302 wrote:Do you think Ball would not have been successful in the SEC?