lhslep134
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Nov 27, 2012 4:55pm
I figured I'd start a thread on what is quickly becoming the "PED" that's causing so many suspensions, including Joe Haden. My question: Should a mental PED be treated the same as a physical PED? I don't think so
Pick6
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Nov 27, 2012 4:56pm
No. Not sure I see the correlation of taking Adderall and it giving you and unfair advantage on the football field.
Automatik
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Nov 27, 2012 4:57pm
It's a controlled substance. Don't want to get in trouble? Get a script.
Mental PED? lol
Mental PED? lol
lhslep134
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Nov 27, 2012 5:00pm
Well it obviously enhances your mental ability to focus and concentrate. But it doesn't affect your physical ability at all.Automatik;1330713 wrote: Mental PED? lol
Automatik
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Nov 27, 2012 5:02pm
Do you think Joe Haden was taking addy to enhance his mental ability?lhslep134;1330716 wrote:Well it obviously enhances your mental ability. But it doesn't affect your physical ability at all.
lhslep134
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Nov 27, 2012 5:06pm
He already said he was using it to party. But the guys on the NFL Network were talking about how it would be used during the week to get through film study without falling asleep and similar circumstances.Automatik;1330718 wrote:Do you think Joe Haden was taking addy to enhance his mental ability?
Automatik
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Nov 27, 2012 5:10pm
It's a slippery slope.
PED or not, it's still a controlled substance. If you turn a blind eye to adderall, then what next? Like many prescription drugs, it can be abused.
PED or not, it's still a controlled substance. If you turn a blind eye to adderall, then what next? Like many prescription drugs, it can be abused.
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vball10set
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Nov 27, 2012 5:10pm
/threadAutomatik;1330713 wrote:It's a controlled substance. Don't want to get in trouble? Get a script.
Commander of Awesome
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Nov 27, 2012 5:24pm
Adderall can also be used to mask steroids.
lhslep134
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Nov 27, 2012 5:25pm
Can't disagree with thisAutomatik;1330723 wrote:It's a slippery slope.
PED or not, it's still a controlled substance. If you turn a blind eye to adderall, then what next? Like many prescription drugs, it can be abused.
Ironman92
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Nov 27, 2012 6:17pm
Commander of Awesome;1330729 wrote:Adderall can also be used to mask steroids.
We have a winner.
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friendfromlowry
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Nov 27, 2012 6:23pm
I forget who was talking about this on ESPN today (Brian Dawkins maybe) that a couple of the Seahawks DB's are facing a suspension for it. Apparently it helps keep them in the zone and creates a 'tunnel vision' for them to help their focus. Who knows. Most adults can't focus unless they drink coffee/caffeine first.
lhslep134
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Nov 27, 2012 6:30pm
Commander of Awesome;1330729 wrote:Adderall can also be used to mask steroids.
Really? I didn't know that
Rotinaj
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Nov 27, 2012 6:54pm
Sherman claimed he accidentally drank a crushed tablet of adderoll. Dude is a douchebag. Glad he got suspended.
Pick6
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Nov 27, 2012 6:59pm
so why cant athletes do the same?friendfromlowry;1330756 wrote:I forget who was talking about this on ESPN today (Brian Dawkins maybe) that a couple of the Seahawks DB's are facing a suspension for it. Apparently it helps keep them in the zone and creates a 'tunnel vision' for them to help their focus. Who knows. Most adults can't focus unless they drink coffee/caffeine first.
Commander of Awesome
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Nov 27, 2012 7:03pm
That's what Ross Tucker said on NFL Today podcast. He said players are taking it because it can mask steroids from detection or something. I don't know the science behind it, and a brief search didn't provide conclusive evidence.lhslep134;1330762 wrote:Really? I didn't know that
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friendfromlowry
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Nov 27, 2012 7:26pm
Never said they couldn't. I've always gotten the impression that Adderall was primarily for students who had trouble paying attention or behaving. IMO, I don't think pro athletes should be messing around with it. But as someone else said, it's a slippery slope.Pick6;1330780 wrote:so why cant athletes do the same?
Rotinaj
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Nov 27, 2012 8:02pm
If it didn't give them some sort of advantage they wouldn't be doing it.
ernest_t_bass
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Nov 27, 2012 11:05pm
ccrunner609;1330822 wrote:Guys we are talking about a form of Amphetamine. Its a stimulant. These pills have a time release mechanism, when you crush them up and take the whole dose all at once, you get a full dose of 4 different Amphetamine salts. Pure stimulant.
Where'd you learn that Rook? Drug school?
Pick6
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Nov 28, 2012 1:45am
lol'd.ernest_t_bass;1330967 wrote:Where'd you learn that Rook? Drug school?
There are other stimulants, though. I can buy Bronkaid with Ephedrine right from the pharmacy. No prescription required.
"Ephedrine is similar in structure to the derivatives amphetamine and methamphetamine."
And psuedo (the knockoff used in nasal decongestants) is what is used to make meth.
like_that
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Nov 28, 2012 7:15am
There is a guy in my office who told me he took adderall before his state soccer semifinal match. He said it def enhanced his performance. I called him out for cheating.
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Tiernan
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Nov 28, 2012 9:55am
I thought this was a thread about the former great CB for the Packers - Cannonball Adderall
Heretic
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Nov 28, 2012 12:26pm
Damn, most adults must be little bitches.friendfromlowry;1330756 wrote:I forget who was talking about this on ESPN today (Brian Dawkins maybe) that a couple of the Seahawks DB's are facing a suspension for it. Apparently it helps keep them in the zone and creates a 'tunnel vision' for them to help their focus. Who knows. Most adults can't focus unless they drink coffee/caffeine first.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Nov 29, 2012 5:22pm
Dug a little deeper into this, what I learned is that NFL just releases that the player is suspended for 4 games, its then the player that says Adderall. NFL doesn't confirm. Adderall shows up as the same type of substance so players can be roiding then say its just adderall.lhslep134;1330762 wrote:Really? I didn't know that
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Nov 29, 2012 5:26pm
Hmm interesting. I don't know anything about steroids or their chemical makeup, does that mean they're amphetamines too?Commander of Awesome;1332946 wrote:Dug a little deeper into this, what I learned is that NFL just releases that the player is suspended for 4 games, its then the player that says Adderall. NFL doesn't confirm. Adderall shows up as the same type of substance so players can be roiding then say its just adderall.