Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Nov 29, 2012 5:09pm
I thought it went out on OSU as soon as the whistle blew.
Who gives a shit anyway, that play didn't win/lose the game.
Who gives a shit anyway, that play didn't win/lose the game.
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friendfromlowry
Posts: 6,239
Nov 29, 2012 5:19pm
And if Duke doesn't go ten minutes without a FG, start out the game going 3/16, and don't grab their first offense rebound until 4 minutes left in the half -- then blah blah blah, excuses, shoulda woulda coulda.lhslep134;1332588 wrote:Ohio State beat themselves. If Craft/Williams don't miss so many open (in Craft's case) or easy (in William's case) shots near the hoop Duke is put away. Missing those shots allowed Duke to claw back.
Duke is not a better team than Ohio State, and we'll see that in March. They are a very good team, but they also beat a UK team that isn't anywhere as good as their ranking (yet), a Louisville team without Dieng, and OSU at home with Craft's worst offensive game.
Congrats to Duke, but they're not clearly better than OSU.
Not sure how OSU is clearly better - OSU may have underachieved, but Duke also played miserable for 60-70% of the game.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Nov 29, 2012 5:24pm
lol, you can't go to Duke and be labeled a thug.
He was being a little bitch when OSU was pushing them around, but he brought it in the 2nd half.
3-10, 12 pts...swag all night.
He was being a little bitch when OSU was pushing them around, but he brought it in the 2nd half.
3-10, 12 pts...swag all night.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Nov 29, 2012 5:28pm
Outplayed? Yes. Dominated? lol...no.
Craft tried to be something he's not, a scorer.
K gave his squad the right talk at half. I don't know wtf Matta said, but it sure as hell wasn't right.
Craft tried to be something he's not, a scorer.
K gave his squad the right talk at half. I don't know wtf Matta said, but it sure as hell wasn't right.
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Red Rider Nation
Posts: 1,085
Nov 29, 2012 6:02pm
Totally disagree. Duke wold beat Indiana too! The Hoosiers beat a way overrated Carolina team that won't be in the Top 25 when ACC schedule starts! I've seen both lay and Louisville is also better than Indianaccrunner609;1332926 wrote:Ok, I stayed away from this thread the whole night last night. Didnt want to hear the BS about the game.
OSU played really good bball. I dont buy it that they dont have a bench. They played alot and played well. Craft isnt that good. Sure he can play some D but he is terrible on offense.
THis is a Duke team that has won 2-3 games this season that they would usually lose. There is almost no reason to of won last night. OSU just couldnt put it away. Plumlee is a stud.
Pundits are talking about Duke being #1 since they have played and beatin 3 top 5 teams in less then 2 weeks. After watching IU the other night....Duke isnt the best team.
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Red Rider Nation
Posts: 1,085
Nov 29, 2012 6:05pm
I have to be honest-Craft may be the most overrated player in the country and what is up with the Beverly Hills 90210 sideburns? Good luck in the NBA where nobody plays defense!Automatik;1332952 wrote:Outplayed? Yes. Dominated? lol...no.
Craft tried to be something he's not, a scorer.
K gave his squad the right talk at half. I don't know wtf Matta said, but it sure as hell wasn't right.
Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Nov 29, 2012 6:50pm
Red Rider Nation;1332975 wrote:I have to be honest-Craft may be the most overrated player in the country and what is up with the Beverly Hills 90210 sideburns? Good luck in the NBA where nobody plays defense!
Thanks for the honesty!
Craft I very seriously doubt has any thoughts about the nba. He's not very good offensively. He's the best defensive guard in the country and its not close.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Nov 29, 2012 7:15pm
I don't....ccrunner609;1333052 wrote:I am just trying to be real with what I have seen. IU dominated UNC. Their style of ball is spectacular and they have 10+ players that can get you.
I dont think there is a person in the country that doesnt want to see these 2 teams play.
lol No for real though, it would be a hell of a game.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Nov 29, 2012 7:23pm
I have to be honest too. You're a blind fool.Red Rider Nation;1332975 wrote:I have to be honest-Craft may be the most overrated player in the country and what is up with the Beverly Hills 90210 sideburns? Good luck in the NBA where nobody plays defense!
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
Nov 29, 2012 7:27pm
Best player in the country? .........No. Not even the best Center in the NCCAccrunner609;1332956 wrote:Everyone in the country knows who is a better coach here. Add that with the best player in the country and improving players like Cook and what you have is a better team and better program winning.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Nov 29, 2012 7:29pm
Ryan Kelly, duh.Hb31187;1333076 wrote:Best player in the country? .........No
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Nov 29, 2012 7:31pm
Seth Curry? :laugh:
Duke fans make me facepalm.
Duke fans make me facepalm.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Nov 29, 2012 7:31pm
I didn't say OSU is clearly better. I said Duke isn't​ clearly better. Nice reading comprehension fail.friendfromlowry;1332941 wrote:
Not sure how OSU is clearly better - OSU may have underachieved, but Duke also played miserable for 60-70% of the game.
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
Nov 29, 2012 7:31pm
How the HELL did he manage to guard Deshaun Thomas? Deshaun should of absolutely ate him alivewildcats20;1333080 wrote:Ryan Kelly, duh.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Nov 29, 2012 7:32pm
Total offensive collapse by OSU in the 2nd half.Hb31187;1333087 wrote:How the HELL did he manage to guard Deshaun Thomas? Deshaun should of absolutely ate him alive
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Nov 29, 2012 7:33pm
Another reading comprehension fail, but that's to be expected from you. I didn't say OSU was better, I said Duke wasn't better. If these teams played 10 times I'd say they'd split 5-5. That means I don't think either is better than the other.ccrunner609;1333072 wrote:and you are the idiot that posted that even though Duke just beat OSU, that OSU is still better.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Nov 29, 2012 7:34pm
Throw in that Kelly was in foul trouble the entire game basically, it's beyond me.Hb31187;1333087 wrote:How the HELL did he manage to guard Deshaun Thomas? Deshaun should of absolutely ate him alive
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Nov 29, 2012 7:34pm
Don't forget who you're dealing with.....he says WOULD OF daily.:laugh:lhslep134;1333091 wrote:Another reading comprehension fail, but that's to be expected from you. I didn't say OSU was better, I said Duke wasn't better. If these teams played 10 times I'd say they'd split 5-5. That means I don't think either is better than the other.
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
Nov 29, 2012 7:38pm
Haha if you insist. Plumlee is a good player, but hes not head and shoulders above anyone else in the country. In fact, anyone whos not a Duke homer would take Zeller 7 days a week, and twice on sundaysccrunner609;1333088 wrote:Right now his resume is on top of the stack...and its not even close.
Im waiting on the post where you go over the stats and say OMG HES OBVIOUSLY BETTER
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Nov 29, 2012 7:38pm
Or shots weren't falling and no flow, wayyyyy to much one on one.ccrunner609;1333099 wrote:or Duke decided to lock them down.
Don't get your panties in a bunch, I'm not discrediting Duke.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Nov 29, 2012 7:40pm
Yeah what the f*ck is their problem? We're not discrediting Duke, we're just not annointing them as the team the homers think they are.Automatik;1333102 wrote:
Don't get your panties in a bunch, I'm not discrediting Duke.
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
Nov 29, 2012 7:40pm
Yeah I guess so, just baffles me that Thomas didnt get many more touches. I assume Thad addresses this first thing tomorrow(perhaps today)Automatik;1333090 wrote:Total offensive collapse by OSU in the 2nd half.
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
Nov 29, 2012 7:43pm
lol super defensive right?Automatik;1333102 wrote:Or shots weren't falling and no flow, wayyyyy to much one on one.
Don't get your panties in a bunch, I'm not discrediting Duke.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Nov 29, 2012 7:45pm
Who knows, I hope he addressed it on the flight home! After Thomas got off the bench I figured the offense would run through him. No, Smith Jr and Craft thought they could take over on the offensive end and totally failed.Hb31187;1333104 wrote:Yeah I guess so, just baffles me that Thomas didnt get many more touches. I assume Thad addresses this first thing tomorrow(perhaps today)
Matta also wen't rather deep in his rotation. I know he does this early in the season, but I figured when considering the opponent he would keep it somewhat short. There was some foul issues, so that could be the case, but like I said....no flow.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Nov 29, 2012 7:50pm
Auto, did you read Mark Titus' tweets regarding DT? He said that Duke was keying on DT, forcing Craft to take shots because he was cold. On the pick and rolls/pick and pops, the Duke player stayed with Thomas giving Craft open looks.
Go back and rewatch.
Go back and rewatch.