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trep14
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Nov 24, 2012 3:16pm
That is all.
jordo212000
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Nov 24, 2012 3:48pm
Amen
ptown_trojans_1
Posts: 7,632
Nov 24, 2012 3:50pm
Hell of an assumption you all are making.
Man, must have known the NCAA still wouldn't have dinged OSU.
Man, must have known the NCAA still wouldn't have dinged OSU.
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trep14
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Nov 24, 2012 4:01pm
I'm sorry, are you making the assumption that Gene Smith not doing the bowl ban and spouting off about how OSU didn't deserve more sanctions made a good impression on the NCAA? I actually think you might be Gene Smith, that would be the only person that would actually defend his handling of the Tressel situation. Anyone with a brain would not be showing him any support. Come on man.
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trep14
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Nov 24, 2012 4:04pm
Also, I would like to throw my opinion out there that fans cheering Tressel was pathetic to me. Him, Gene Smith, Posey, Pryor, and Herron are why we aren't playing in a major bowl this year. I think we should distance ourselves as much as possible from those guys.
Fly4Fun
Posts: 7,730
Nov 24, 2012 4:08pm
I agree that Gene Smith screwed up.
I completely disagree about Tressel. The man was great for the University and did great things for the student-athletes. He made a mistake, he paid the price. No reason not to celebrate the good.
I completely disagree about Tressel. The man was great for the University and did great things for the student-athletes. He made a mistake, he paid the price. No reason not to celebrate the good.
Pick6
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Nov 24, 2012 4:10pm
Thread is a bit premature, IMO. Even if we were eligible, we would need ND to lose and us to win the B1G championship game to be in the title game. We would be #3 in the BCS right now. You would have to assume that if Georgia upsets Bama, they would jump us. Since we would only be playing Nebraska.
Also, trep: Jordan Hall, Travis Howard, and Pittsburgh Brown. All of those guys are still on the team and were part of the reason for our sanctions.
Also, trep: Jordan Hall, Travis Howard, and Pittsburgh Brown. All of those guys are still on the team and were part of the reason for our sanctions.
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trep14
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Nov 24, 2012 4:19pm
I don't think those three guys were involved with the bowl ban stuff, though I could be wrong. I found this ESPN article about it sounds like theirs was an isolated event that they were suspended for and got to come back:Pick6;1327987 wrote:Thread is a bit premature, IMO. Even if we were eligible, we would need ND to lose and us to win the B1G championship game to be in the title game. We would be #3 in the BCS right now. You would have to assume that if Georgia upsets Bama, they would jump us. Since we would only be playing Nebraska.
Also, trep: Jordan Hall, Travis Howard, and Pittsburgh Brown. All of those guys are still on the team and were part of the reason for our sanctions.
http://www.ncaa.com/news/football/article/2011-09-13/three-ohio-state-players-reinstated
And I agree with you I don't think we were playing for a national title this year. But, being in the running for a national title and playing in a major bowl game looks way way way better than a 6-7 season with a gator bowl loss.
ohiobucks1
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Nov 24, 2012 4:19pm
Pick6;1327987 wrote:Thread is a bit premature, IMO. Even if we were eligible, we would need ND to lose and us to win the B1G championship game to be in the title game. We would be #3 in the BCS right now. You would have to assume that if Georgia upsets Bama, they would jump us. Since we would only be playing Nebraska.
Also, trep: Jordan Hall, Travis Howard, and Pittsburgh Brown. All of those guys are still on the team and were part of the reason for our sanctions.
False. If we were eligible we would be #2 in the AP. They would not have an undefeated team below a 1 loss team if they werent trying to stop us from getting a "mythical" national championship.
Pick6
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Nov 24, 2012 4:25pm
Being eligible/ineligible has nothing to do with being ranked in the AP(except maybe some voter bias). We are currently ranked 4th in the AP. It was said during the broadcast today that IF OSU were eligible, they would be ranked #3 in the BCS. Its a very safe assumption that the winner of the SEC title game would be in the national championship and ND if they go undefeated.ohiobucks1;1327990 wrote:False. If we were eligible we would be #2 in the AP. They would not have an undefeated team below a 1 loss team if they werent trying to stop us from getting a "mythical" national championship.
IggyPride00
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Nov 24, 2012 4:31pm
The computers would likely be a huge problem for the BUckeyes in a BCS equation if they were eligible. #3 sounds about right.Pick6;1327992 wrote:Being eligible/ineligible has nothing to do with being ranked in the AP(except maybe some voter bias). We are currently ranked 4th in the AP. It was said during the broadcast today that IF OSU were eligible, they would be ranked #3 in the BCS. Its a very safe assumption that the winner of the SEC title game would be in the national championship and ND if they go undefeated.
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ou1980
Posts: 877
Nov 24, 2012 4:32pm
All this will be forgotten next season. Gene Smith has been an amazing AD and like those mentioned above no one would have been able to anticipate what the NCAA brought down.
Go Bucks!!
Go Bucks!!
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Nov 24, 2012 4:46pm
I am placing all blame on Geno for this one.
It was obvious early on that we were not going anywhere last year. I know some will say there was no guarantee we wouldn't get a bowl ban this year as well, but I don't think that would have happened.
Take the bowl ban and then move on. He and Gee were so arrogant that they thought we would skate.
It was obvious early on that we were not going anywhere last year. I know some will say there was no guarantee we wouldn't get a bowl ban this year as well, but I don't think that would have happened.
Take the bowl ban and then move on. He and Gee were so arrogant that they thought we would skate.
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trep14
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Nov 24, 2012 5:06pm
Gene Smith's dad, is that you? The words "Gene Smith" and "amazing AD" should not be used together in the same sentence.ou1980;1327997 wrote:All this will be forgotten next season. Gene Smith has been an amazing AD and like those mentioned above no one would have been able to anticipate what the NCAA brought down.
Go Bucks!!
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Nov 24, 2012 5:23pm
The opposite IS known for a fact, yet people who should know better (TV and radio talkers) don't seem to know it or acknowledge it. Ohio State was not going to a bowl game this year, period.ptown_trojans_1;1327979 wrote:Hell of an assumption you all are making.
Man, must have known the NCAA still wouldn't have dinged OSU.
ohiobucks1
Posts: 4,915
Nov 24, 2012 7:52pm
Again, false.Pick6;1327992 wrote:Being eligible/ineligible has nothing to do with being ranked in the AP(except maybe some voter bias). We are currently ranked 4th in the AP. It was said during the broadcast today that IF OSU were eligible, they would be ranked #3 in the BCS. Its a very safe assumption that the winner of the SEC title game would be in the national championship and ND if they go undefeated.
We would only be ranked 3rd because of where we are ranked in the Human Poll.
We would be ranked #2 in the human poll if we were eligible because the week that Alabama and Oregon lost we would have jumped them had certain writers not voted us 10+ (which is true, you can check it).
So we would then be ranked 2nd in the BCS and going to the championship
said_aouita
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Nov 24, 2012 7:56pm
:thumbup:trep14;1327983 wrote:Also, I would like to throw my opinion out there that fans cheering Tressel was pathetic to me.
jordo212000
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Nov 24, 2012 7:58pm
ou1980;1327997 wrote:All this will be forgotten next season. Gene Smith has been an amazing AD and like those mentioned above no one would have been able to anticipate what the NCAA brought down.
Go Bucks!!
Should have been able to anticipate that Fickell was in over his head and that we were really thin on talent. No Buckeye fan cares about playing in the Gator Bowl or any other mid to low tier bowl.
He shouldn't have been so arrogant and should have taken the bowl ban.
Crimson streak
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Nov 24, 2012 7:59pm
ohiobucks1;1328104 wrote:Again, false.
We would only be ranked 3rd because of where we are ranked in the Human Poll.
We would be ranked #2 in the human poll if we were eligible because the week that Alabama and Oregon lost we would have jumped them had certain writers not voted us 10+ (which is true, you can check it).
So we would then be ranked 2nd in the BCS and going to the championship
I'm am really curious to see what Ohio st would have been ranked in the computers
ohiobucks1
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Nov 24, 2012 8:06pm
Crimson streak;1328109 wrote:I'm am really curious to see what Ohio st would have been ranked in the computers
Agreed. I think it would have been OSU vs ND in the Championship which would be eleventy billion times better than Bama Florida
Crimson streak
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Nov 24, 2012 8:08pm
ohiobucks1;1328115 wrote:Agreed. I think it would have been OSU vs ND in the Championship which would be eleventy billion times better than Bama Florida
I dk I think the computer would have hurt Ohio st big time. It would have been really really close
jordo212000
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Nov 24, 2012 8:10pm
Yeah the CPUs wouldn't have been kind to us IMO
wildcats20
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Nov 24, 2012 8:12pm
OSU, being undefeated and winning the B1G, would be in the Title Game. ESPECIALLY being the only other undefeated team(with an ND win tonight).
ohiobucks1
Posts: 4,915
Nov 24, 2012 8:14pm
Agreed. No way they keep a team from a Big 5 conference out if they were one of 2 undefeated.wildcats20;1328127 wrote:OSU, being undefeated and winning the B1G, would be in the Title Game. ESPECIALLY being the only other undefeated team(with an ND win tonight).
And if they did, there would be riots.
Win win
jordo212000
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Nov 24, 2012 8:17pm
wildcats20;1328127 wrote:OSU, being undefeated and winning the B1G, would be in the Title Game. ESPECIALLY being the only other undefeated team(with an ND win tonight).
Oh agreed
Just saying our computer ranking would be lower than teams underneath of us. The schedule would have hurt us