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isadore
Posts: 7,762
Nov 29, 2012 9:30pm
gosh a ruddies lets make sure to increase taxes on those who have the least ability to pay. Especially at a time when their incomes are decreasing. tax the rich.
believer
Posts: 8,153
Nov 29, 2012 9:31pm
thislhslep134;1332942 wrote:Why do you guys respond to isaidiot?
I've seen some pretty healthy debate between the right and the left, and none of it is coming from isaidiots rambling incoherent nonsense. Stop responding to him.
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isadore
Posts: 7,762
Nov 30, 2012 6:46am
gosh a ruddies I realize that actually the reading the available records nd statistics is a little beyond a little acolyte of the rich, you prefer parroting some talking points some talking head fed you. What you might learn is that when we have cut tax rates for the rich, revenues as compared to gdp fall and deficits grow. When the rates have been kept high then we decrease the deficit. And a raise in the tax rate, coupled with putting capital gain tax at the same level as income tax and raising the ceiling on fica collection would significantly move us toward avoiding the financial cliff. But for you, keep parroting.ccrunner609;1333259 wrote:The 3% increase in the tax rates of the so called rich generates a net loss you dumbass. The tax generates something like $90 billion a year. Pays for about 8 days of government. But what you fail to realize is that these rich people would generate 3 times that much revenue in taxes if you cut their taxes 3%.
Get a clue.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Nov 30, 2012 2:20pm
When will the first African American president do something constructive that will result in the rampant unemployment among African Americans declining? Or will the first African American president continue to confiscate money from the productive labor of others to give to African Americans in return for warehousing and votes? At what point does the first African American president decide that it is a violation of the civil rights of African Americans to enslave them to BIG government and a life of dependency?
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isadore
Posts: 7,762
Nov 30, 2012 2:32pm
thank you for again showing the bigoted worldview that has defined the current Republican Party.QuakerOats;1333628 wrote:When will the first African American president do something constructive that will result in the rampant unemployment among African Americans declining? Or will the first African American president continue to confiscate money from the productive labor of others to give to African Americans in return for warehousing and votes? At what point does the first African American president decide that it is a violation of the civil rights of African Americans to enslave them to BIG government and a life of dependency?
tk421
Posts: 8,500
Nov 30, 2012 2:56pm
gosh a ruddies, you're a fucking idiot. Ignore list, you go.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Nov 30, 2012 8:34pm
The Obama "fiscal cliff" proposal:
1) double the tax increases he campaigned on
2) none of the spending cuts he campaigned on, at least not real cuts in the immediate future
3) additional stimulus (are you fucking kidding me?!?)
4) "elimination" of the debt ceiling
There's leadership and compromise for you. Meanwhile, Obama is out there campaigning to get the public to support this plan while he sends surrogates to try to ram-rod a completely impractical plan on Repubs.
It's nice to see after a very divisive campaign that Obama is moving heaven and earth to unify. What a fraud.
1) double the tax increases he campaigned on
2) none of the spending cuts he campaigned on, at least not real cuts in the immediate future
3) additional stimulus (are you fucking kidding me?!?)
4) "elimination" of the debt ceiling
There's leadership and compromise for you. Meanwhile, Obama is out there campaigning to get the public to support this plan while he sends surrogates to try to ram-rod a completely impractical plan on Repubs.
It's nice to see after a very divisive campaign that Obama is moving heaven and earth to unify. What a fraud.
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isadore
Posts: 7,762
Nov 30, 2012 9:43pm
gosh the majority of American voters wanted him as President
the large majority want taxes raised for the rich.
the large majority responsibility for their costs.
the large majority want taxes raised for the rich.
the large majority responsibility for their costs.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Nov 30, 2012 9:51pm
Yeah but the majority of people that, you know, pay taxes are concerned about the country going bankrupt.isadore;1333795 wrote:gosh the majority of American voters wanted him as President
the large majority want taxes raised for the rich.
the large majority responsibility for their costs.
Obama has called for a balanced approach and that is not what he's proposing. Gee, I guess he's a liar in addition to being incompetent. I guess he's not the worst POTUS we've had, yet, so the American people gave him 4 more years to bring home that title.
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isadore
Posts: 7,762
Nov 30, 2012 9:58pm
lol, gosh a ruddies the people have voted and some are so bitter. The President's position reflect the will of the American people. And an excellent stance to begin negotiation with the Republican leadership in the House and Senate. You do not concede to your opponents positions to begin a negotiation, especially when your position reflects the will of the American people.gut;1333800 wrote:Yeah but the majority of people that, you know, pay taxes are concerned about the country going bankrupt.
Obama has called for a balanced approach and that is not what he's proposing. Gee, I guess he's a liar in addition to being incompetent. I guess he's not the worst POTUS we've had, yet, so the American people gave him 4 more years to bring home that title.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Dec 1, 2012 8:42am
Answer the questions.isadore;1333636 wrote:thank you for again showing the bigoted worldview that has defined the current Republican Party.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Dec 1, 2012 8:43am
It is absolutely incredible. If I am the repubs I get up and walk out.gut;1333765 wrote:The Obama "fiscal cliff" proposal:
1) double the tax increases he campaigned on
2) none of the spending cuts he campaigned on, at least not real cuts in the immediate future
3) additional stimulus (are you ****ing kidding me?!?)
4) "elimination" of the debt ceiling
There's leadership and compromise for you. Meanwhile, Obama is out there campaigning to get the public to support this plan while he sends surrogates to try to ram-rod a completely impractical plan on Repubs.
It's nice to see after a very divisive campaign that Obama is moving heaven and earth to unify. What a fraud.
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isadore
Posts: 7,762
Dec 1, 2012 9:07am
ok. yes the president's programs the American people improve their lives economically. and yes racism is a major motivator for the opposition to our first African American President.QuakerOats;1333945 wrote:Answer the questions.
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isadore
Posts: 7,762
Dec 1, 2012 9:09am
good, so the Repubs can go the way of their predecessors the Federalist and the Whigs.QuakerOats;1333946 wrote:It is absolutely incredible. If I am the repubs I get up and walk out.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Dec 1, 2012 9:41am
Those charts are pure comedy. We really are a stupid country.
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isadore
Posts: 7,762
Dec 1, 2012 9:49am
normal response of supporters of a losing and rapidly diminishing point of view. the expressed opinions of those polled reflect enlightened self interest.WebFire;1333967 wrote:Those charts are pure comedy. We really are a stupid country.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Dec 1, 2012 10:56am
I'll agree, my views are of a diminishing point of view. Which explains why we get closer everyday to socialism and economic meltdown. Majority view != correct views.isadore;1333973 wrote:normal response of supporters of a losing and rapidly diminishing point of view. the expressed opinions of those polled reflect enlightened self interest.
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isadore
Posts: 7,762
Dec 1, 2012 11:54am
gosh you reject representative democracy, hardly a surprise.WebFire;1334001 wrote:I'll agree, my views are of a diminishing point of view. Which explains why we get closer everyday to socialism and economic meltdown. Majority view != correct views.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Dec 1, 2012 12:35pm
I don't reject it. I just disagree with the "majority". Hardly a surprise you don't understand that. When Bush was in office, did you reject the representative democracy?isadore;1334013 wrote:gosh you reject representative democracy, hardly a surprise.
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isadore
Posts: 7,762
Dec 1, 2012 12:46pm
get used to the "majority", demography is destiny.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Dec 1, 2012 2:41pm
FIFYisadore;1333636 wrote:thank you for again showing the bigoted worldview that has defined my posts
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Dec 1, 2012 2:45pm
The lemmings just don't realize that Obama is a narcissist that only cares about his own agenda. It's one that will only hurt them in the long-run. In cases of depressions and sovereign default it's the poor that suffer disproportionately, and that's the path Obama is taking us down.
I have little empathy at this point. You voted for it, prepare to reap what you sow.
I have little empathy at this point. You voted for it, prepare to reap what you sow.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Dec 1, 2012 2:48pm
It's kind of funny. He's now (well at least it's appearing that he's going to) enlist some Republican help to deal with this whole fiscal mess. It's funny because he knows that to save his presidency, alluding to your claim of narcissism, he needs people around who will actually provide a productive opinion.gut;1334088 wrote:The lemmings just don't realize that Obama is a narcissist that only cares about his own agenda.
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BoatShoes
Posts: 5,703
Dec 1, 2012 5:17pm
lolgut;1334088 wrote:The lemmings just don't realize that Obama is a narcissist that only cares about his own agenda. It's one that will only hurt them in the long-run. In cases of depressions and sovereign default it's the poor that suffer disproportionately, and that's the path Obama is taking us down.
I have little empathy at this point. You voted for it, prepare to reap what you sow.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Dec 1, 2012 5:35pm
It would be funny if it wasn't true, instead it's just sad. Obama probably doesn't have some grand agenda, more likely he's just incompetent and ignorant. Probably should have spent a little more of his time at the b-school instead of law school at Chicago.BoatShoes;1334128 wrote:lol