wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Nov 18, 2012 5:39pm
Started this thread so soon mainly because I am curious of everyone's prediction of the crowd. i am going to say it will be 50/50....I think the fans are fed up.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Nov 18, 2012 5:43pm
This is going to be an awful game to watch. If Ben is out I think the Browns might actually win.
IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
Nov 18, 2012 5:43pm
Pretty close to 50/50. There will be alot of fans selling their tickets to Steeler fans.wes_mantooth;1324123 wrote:Started this thread so soon mainly because I am curious of everyone's prediction of the crowd. i am going to say it will be 50/50....I think the fans are fed up.
Cleveland fans are fed up, and if Haslam is complicit in allowing it to continue then he should enjoy seeing a pro-Steeler crowd this week and lots of empty orange seats after that.
Firing Shurmur tomorrow would be a huge moral boost for the fan base heading into this Steeler game. Haslam has the power to make it happen and would be wise to use it.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Nov 18, 2012 5:48pm
Is a 7-9 season and double digit draft pick going to make us any more or less "better" next year?IggyPride00;1324128 wrote:Pretty close to 50/50. There will be alot of fans selling their tickets to Steeler fans.
Cleveland fans are fed up, and if Haslam is complicit in allowing it to continue then he should enjoy seeing a pro-Steeler crowd this week and lots of empty orange seats after that.
Firing Shurmur tomorrow would be a huge moral boost for the fan base heading into this Steeler game. Haslam has the power to make it happen and would be wise to use it.
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chippy10
Posts: 108
Nov 18, 2012 5:48pm
I bet rest of our home games will be blackout. Why go up and watch it?
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Nov 18, 2012 5:55pm
well, somehow...the browns have always manipulated the numbers..because we have all seen some of the late season crowds. No blackouts even with around 30k inside the stadium.chippy10;1324131 wrote:I bet rest of our home games will be blackout. Why go up and watch it?
shook_17
Posts: 3,023
Nov 18, 2012 6:00pm
I invest a lot of money into my 8 season tickets and trips to Cleveland 8 times a year. plus a pre season game. I don't give to shits about the draft next year. I want wins and I want wins now, not next year, NOW. I don't understand how some people and root to lose simply for draft position.SportsAndLady;1324130 wrote:Is a 7-9 season and double digit draft pick going to make us any more or less "better" next year?
If Ben is out, i expect this game to be some what competitive.
IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
Nov 18, 2012 6:04pm
Weeden is talking about battling in his post game presser.SportsAndLady;1324130 wrote:Is a 7-9 season and double digit draft pick going to make us any more or less "better" next year?
Shurmur is like a tumor growing inside of these players and he is stunting all of their development.
On a young team a cancer like Shumur is particularly destructive.
Shurmur is a loser, and it is rubbing off on his team.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Nov 18, 2012 6:29pm
No I definitely agree the reason why Weeden looks so bad is because of Shurmur.IggyPride00;1324151 wrote:Weeden is talking about battling in his post game presser.
Shurmur is like a tumor growing inside of these players and he is stunting all of their development.
On a young team a cancer like Shumur is particularly destructive.
Shurmur is a loser, and it is rubbing off on his team.
:rolleyes:
Fab4Runner
Posts: 6,196
Nov 18, 2012 7:19pm
Pretty pumped for the tailgate.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Nov 18, 2012 7:38pm
I think the crowd will be about 75/25 and the game simply has to suck ass. Both teams frustrate the he'll out of their fans and I cannot expect anything different. The biggest difference is Tomlin vs Shurmur. Shurmur has many Cleveland fans just assuming they'll find a way to lose whereas Tomlin drives us nuts with his calmness but he usually looks good in the end.
On the field these two aren't that far apart. I know Cleveland finds a way to lose but them winning simply will not surprise me.
I'll guess 17-16 Steelers
On the field these two aren't that far apart. I know Cleveland finds a way to lose but them winning simply will not surprise me.
I'll guess 17-16 Steelers
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Nov 19, 2012 9:28am
If the Browns bring the pass rush they brought yesterday, I actually like their chances.
bigdaddy2003
Posts: 7,384
Nov 19, 2012 9:31am
I'm pretty sure Ben is going to be out. Well with the way they talked last night he will probably be out for a few weeks. I think the Browns can get the W.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Nov 19, 2012 9:37am
I rather have rapistberger play with the chance of the Browns woresening his injury.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Nov 19, 2012 9:52am
Pittsburgh is ripe to be upset right now, but I don't see it happening.
I'm wondering if old man Batch will play.
I'm wondering if old man Batch will play.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Nov 19, 2012 10:52am
12-6 ballgame.
WIll be an ugly, ugly, ugly win for the browns. BUt hey..a win is a win.
Steelers have no options at QB. Some wanna see batch, but I think that will be absolutly ugly as the last time he had arm strength was when bush was in office.
WIll be an ugly, ugly, ugly win for the browns. BUt hey..a win is a win.
Steelers have no options at QB. Some wanna see batch, but I think that will be absolutly ugly as the last time he had arm strength was when bush was in office.
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Nov 19, 2012 11:46am
With Batch, you'll get 60% completions...but they'll all be screens and 5-yard routes. With Leftwich, you'll get 50% completion, but a few of them will be down the field (or at least 10 or more yards out).thavoice;1324757 wrote:12-6 ballgame.
WIll be an ugly, ugly, ugly win for the browns. BUt hey..a win is a win.
Steelers have no options at QB. Some wanna see batch, but I think that will be absolutly ugly as the last time he had arm strength was when bush was in office.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Nov 19, 2012 11:49am
I wonder if the Cleveland staff is dumb enough to keep Skrine on the field? If so, target him allllllll day.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Nov 19, 2012 11:53am
Steelers by a lot. I have no confidence in this Brown's team, specifically the coach.
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Nov 19, 2012 12:07pm
Since every Browns game thread I look at seems to have 50+% of its posts discussing just how incompetent Shurmur and company are, there is a good chance of this happening.Automatik;1324829 wrote:I wonder if the Cleveland staff is dumb enough to keep Skrine on the field? If so, target him allllllll day.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Nov 19, 2012 12:09pm
Automatik;1324829 wrote:I wonder if the Cleveland staff is dumb enough to keep Skrine on the field? If so, target him allllllll day.
If Haden is out, there is really no other option.Heretic;1324855 wrote:Since every Browns game thread I look at seems to have 50+% of its posts discussing just how incompetent Shurmur and company are, there is a good chance of this happening.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Nov 19, 2012 12:16pm
Who filled in for Skrine when he went out? He seemed to do ok, although for only a few plays.
I actually felt bad for Skrine. I can't remember the last time I saw a DB get picked on like that and totally meltdown.
I actually felt bad for Skrine. I can't remember the last time I saw a DB get picked on like that and totally meltdown.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Nov 19, 2012 12:19pm
Really? Leftwich, alone, will keep this game close.sleeper;1324838 wrote:Steelers by a lot. I have no confidence in this Brown's team, specifically the coach.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Nov 19, 2012 12:31pm
Not anymore. Browns defense is stout. Put batch in and they tighten up the secondary and there will be no where to throw becuase CB doesnt have the strength to test the defense.Heretic;1324821 wrote:With Batch, you'll get 60% completions...but they'll all be screens and 5-yard routes. With Leftwich, you'll get 50% completion, but a few of them will be down the field (or at least 10 or more yards out).
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Nov 19, 2012 12:38pm
Hmmm....this sounds vaguely familiar. :laugh:thavoice;1324894 wrote:Not anymore. Browns defense is stout. Put batch in and they tighten up the secondary and there will be no where to throw becuase CB doesnt have the strength to test the defense.