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superman
Posts: 3,582
Jun 26, 2015 1:25pm
But the gay rights agenda won't stfu. They will find something new to complain about. They have to. Their survival depends on it.fish82;1737442 wrote:Gay Rage continues to march forward as the most Powerful Force in the Country right now.
That said, I give the ruling a "thumbs up," mostly from looking forward to having both sides STFU about it.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Jun 26, 2015 1:29pm
Kind of hard to blame them on this, though. Would you want to have your name attached to that mess? This country is going to have some form of nationalized healthcare, so I can understand why SCOTUS might not want to try to put the horse back in the barn. That's not their job, but it's also not their job to turn hotly debated legislation on its ear because of technicalities.sleeper;1737420 wrote:That says it all right there. SCOTUS will defend Obamacare no matter what challenges it faces.
You rule it unconstitutional, what's going to happen to the insurance market and healthcare? Would you want to be responsible for that chaos when it wasn't really necessary?
The wheels are going to start coming off this in 2016. That's when the employer mandate kicks-in and the states "inherit" 10% of the cost of subsidies. And then Congress and the POTUS are going to have to act to fix it.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Jun 26, 2015 1:32pm
My guess is they will now focus their onslaught on adoption.superman;1737444 wrote:But the gay rights agenda won't stfu. They will find something new to complain about. They have to. Their survival depends on it.
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Jun 26, 2015 1:53pm
Thavoice with a dumb comment in 3 2 1...
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Jun 26, 2015 2:42pm
Maybe he's just confused on the facts. Perhaps this would assist him.DeyDurkie5;1737449 wrote:Thavoice with a dumb comment in 3 2 1...
http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/a-30-second-guide-to-how-gay-marriage-ruling-affects-you/
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jun 26, 2015 2:48pm
I am interested to see what will happen when a church turns down a gay couple.
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superman
Posts: 3,582
Jun 26, 2015 2:50pm
I would be willing to bet that within a year someone will sue a church or pastor for not performing their wedding.queencitybuckeye;1737454 wrote:Maybe he's just confused on the facts. Perhaps this would assist him.
http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/a-30-second-guide-to-how-gay-marriage-ruling-affects-you/
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jun 26, 2015 2:52pm
And that's a case they definitely should not win.superman;1737459 wrote:I would be willing to bet that within a year someone will sue a church or pastor for not performing their wedding.
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Jun 26, 2015 2:53pm
Hopefully, the court would rule that the couple's rights end where the pastor's begins, at the church door.superman;1737459 wrote:I would be willing to bet that within a year someone will sue a church or pastor for not performing their wedding.
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superman
Posts: 3,582
Jun 26, 2015 2:54pm
All it takes is one liberal judge with an agenda.like_that;1737461 wrote:And that's a case they definitely should not win.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Jun 26, 2015 2:58pm
Someone will bitch and moan, and someone may join a Church specifically to make an issue out of it....but it shouldn't be an issue. Churches aren't going to be required to perform same-sex marriages. Your certificate from the county clerk will be just as valid.like_that;1737461 wrote:And that's a case they definitely should not win.
Spock
Posts: 2,853
Jun 26, 2015 3:20pm
Obama forgot that the eulogy isn't supposed to be a campaign speech. Unreal that he would stain this ladies funeral with this crap.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Jun 26, 2015 3:41pm
like_that;1737423 wrote:That's a decision I'm down with. Now hopefully the next move is to remove government from marriage completely.
That can NEVER happen now. It is government that has just completely and totally interjected itself by this ruling. States's right and the notion of elected representation has just been eradicated. I think you need to read all 4 of the opinions written by each dissenter.
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Jun 26, 2015 3:46pm
It's a simple 14th amendment case, having nothing at all to do with states's (sic) rights. The members of the court who aren't blithering idiots understood the concept.QuakerOats;1737480 wrote:That can NEVER happen now. It is government that has just completely and totally interjected itself by this ruling. States's right and the notion of elected representation has just been eradicated. I think you need to read all 4 of the opinions written by each dissenter.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Jun 26, 2015 4:39pm
queencitybuckeye;1737481 wrote:It's a simple 14th amendment case, having nothing at all to do with states's (sic) rights. The members of the court who aren't blithering idiots understood the concept.
read up ............good luck
http://www.nationaljournal.com/domesticpolicy/marriage-same-sex-gay-supreme-court-dissent-20150626
fish82
Posts: 4,111
Jun 27, 2015 8:05am
It's a 14th Amendment case, but hardly simple. If it was, Kennedy's opinion would have been about 2 paragraphs long.queencitybuckeye;1737481 wrote:It's a simple 14th amendment case, having nothing at all to do with states's (sic) rights. The members of the court who aren't blithering idiots understood the concept.
That said, having read Roberts' legally incoherant majority decision on King v. Burwell, I have no issue labeling him as a "blithering idiot."
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Jun 27, 2015 10:37am
That's not going to hppen either as, just like racism, there is too much political gain to be had by stirring it up.fish82;1737442 wrote:Gay Rage continues to march forward as the most Powerful Force in the Country right now.
That said, I give the ruling a "thumbs up," mostly from looking forward to having both sides STFU about it.
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friendfromlowry
Posts: 6,239
Jun 28, 2015 1:43am
Admittedly, I don't have much knowledge of politics and only started paying attention the last couple years. So forgive me if this is a noob question, but doesn't it seem Republicans are incredibly out of touch with gay marriage? Huckabee, Cruz, and Jindal have all went on record that they'd support their states defying the SCOTUS and continuing to deny marriage licenses to same-sex couples. 6/10 Americans and a higher percentage of young Americans support gay marriage, yet these presidential hopefuls are playing the sore loser card. I don't get it. I know they have their own following/party they have to appease.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jun 28, 2015 1:56am
Yes.friendfromlowry;1737659 wrote:Admittedly, I don't have much knowledge of politics and only started paying attention the last couple years. So forgive me if this is a noob question, but doesn't it seem Republicans are incredibly out of touch with gay marriage? Huckabee, Cruz, and Jindal have all went on record that they'd support their states defying the SCOTUS and continuing to deny marriage licenses to same-sex couples. 6/10 Americans and a higher percentage of young Americans support gay marriage, yet these presidential hopefuls are playing the sore loser card. I don't get it. I know they have their own following/party they have to appease.
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superman
Posts: 3,582
Jun 28, 2015 10:01pm
Honest question. Where did you get the 6/10 number?friendfromlowry;1737659 wrote:Admittedly, I don't have much knowledge of politics and only started paying attention the last couple years. So forgive me if this is a noob question, but doesn't it seem Republicans are incredibly out of touch with gay marriage? Huckabee, Cruz, and Jindal have all went on record that they'd support their states defying the SCOTUS and continuing to deny marriage licenses to same-sex couples. 6/10 Americans and a higher percentage of young Americans support gay marriage, yet these presidential hopefuls are playing the sore loser card. I don't get it. I know they have their own following/party they have to appease.
80% of Tennesseans voted to ban gay marriage just last year. I know Tennessee doesn't represent everyone, but it's hard to imagine they are that far off from the rest of the country.
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friendfromlowry
Posts: 6,239
Jun 29, 2015 1:52am
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/poll-gay-marriage-support-at-record-high/2015/04/22/f6548332-e92a-11e4-aae1-d642717d8afa_story.htmlsuperman;1737725 wrote:Honest question. Where did you get the 6/10 number?
80% of Tennesseans voted to ban gay marriage just last year. I know Tennessee doesn't represent everyone, but it's hard to imagine they are that far off from the rest of the country.
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superman
Posts: 3,582
Jun 29, 2015 7:57am
Thanks.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Jun 30, 2015 4:05pm
Now the marxist is proposing to raise the overtime exempt wage limit from $23,660 to over $50,000 (including managers). The guy is absolutely crushing this country with disastrous regulations. 93 million Americans are out of work and he says, 'hey let's try for 100 million'.
It is hard to believe the carnage he has wrought in just 6 years. It is irreversible.
It is hard to believe the carnage he has wrought in just 6 years. It is irreversible.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Jul 7, 2015 11:36am
"...email exchanges between agency officials directly involved in the activation of the EOC to handle the health threats created by the influx of illegal alien minors last summer. In an email dated June 9, 2014, CDC Logistics Management Specialist George Roark wrote to CDC Public Health Advisor William Adams that “no country in the world would allow” the influx. Adams replies that “in ten years or less, they’ll all be voting…Commander’s intent…” Roark fires back by describing Obama as “the worst pres we have ever had…he truly is ‘the amateur’ but a Marxist too.”
Nice to know at least some federal officials know the White House occupier is a marxist also.
http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2015/07/cdc-official-calls-obama-worst-president-amateur-marxist-after-influx-of-illegal-alien-minors/
Nice to know at least some federal officials know the White House occupier is a marxist also.
http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2015/07/cdc-official-calls-obama-worst-president-amateur-marxist-after-influx-of-illegal-alien-minors/
sleeper
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