Disgusted with obama administration - Part II

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sleeper's avatar
sleeper
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Feb 20, 2015 1:04pm
Really anything besides Fox news, MSNBC, and the Huff Po can be okay. The reality is if you ever post an article from the Huff Po, you should be instantly thread banned and castrated so you can't have offspring.
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Feb 20, 2015 1:05pm
HitsRus;1706898 wrote:^^^The Washington Post?
The Federalist, Breitbart, Drudge, etc. Let's not be coy, here, and repeatedly bring up that Post link as if it's the bulk of what QQuaker posts as links on a near-daily basis. Links to which I've never seen you respond in a "Whoa, now wait a minute, you're getting too right wing with that stuff. Better go to something else to get a better perspective!"
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Feb 20, 2015 1:16pm
BoatShoes;1706761 wrote:The main purpose of Obamacare was to figure out a way to keep a private, for-profit insurance system and make sure that sick people could still get health insurance. This idea was designed by Republicans back when they actually had ideas and it has worked out when it comes to achieving this purpose.
...and yet a not a single 'Pub voted for this version. Oh, let's see that's because this Prez is black and all Republicans are racists....and they hate women , too!

Keep moving the goal posts, and make them wide enough to make the claim, "It's Good!" 45 million uninsured and so far you've managed to get 11 million of them to sign up at gunpoint. Ignore the fact that it was/is a tax on the middle class, was partisanly rushed thru and was misrepresented.

Yeah, "It's Good!"
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Feb 20, 2015 1:25pm
Heretic;1706904 wrote:The Federalist, Breitbart, Drudge, etc. Let's not be coy, here, and repeatedly bring up that Post link as if it's the bulk of what QQuaker posts as links on a near-daily basis. Links to which I've never seen you respond in a "Whoa, now wait a minute, you're getting too right wing with that stuff. Better go to something else to get a better perspective!"
The post you are referring to was by like that.... and I only suggested that there are two sides to the arguement to COA...and that the Huff Po's viewpoint is spun pretty far to the left.
We all pretty know which side of the aisle Quaker is coming from...you can take him or leave him as you see fit.
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Feb 20, 2015 1:42pm
Heretic;1706881 wrote:Just the complete comedy of a person criticizing another for using a link to a progressive site when certain other posters use links from right wing sites with regularity under the misguided notion that they're spreading truth or whatever they tell themselves.

Sort of this "My side will use anything under the sun, but you guys need to run your sources through us to make sure they're all good and non-biased." kind of foolishness.
Again, I could've used any source. It was based off gruber's comments. Really doesn't matter what source is reporting it. He said it.
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Feb 20, 2015 1:44pm
It was based off gruber's comments
This.
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Feb 20, 2015 4:12pm
BoatShoes;1706761 wrote:The main purpose of Obamacare was to figure out a way to keep a private, for-profit insurance system and make sure that sick people could still get health insurance. This idea was designed by Republicans back when they actually had ideas and it has worked out when it comes to achieving this purpose.
No, sir.
The statists #1 heart-tugger was the promise to make sure the 40,000,000+ people who either voluntarily or involuntarily didn't have the "right kind" of healthcare insurance are covered in a government-mandated system. A large majority of citizens believe everyone should have access to insurance, so the statists made this the lynchpin.

So far, the scoreboard isn't showing well for the Obama kool-aid society. 11 million out of 40+ million isn't going to convince the citizenry that the program is a "success", no matter how much lipstick and mascara you apply.

Next, would you like to measure its success by how many taxpayers saved $2,500 on their premiums?
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rydawg5
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Feb 20, 2015 6:41pm
FWIW I think Obama has done a better job than Bush Jr. That might be like Brian Hoyer being better than Johnny Manziel.
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gut
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Feb 20, 2015 8:04pm
BGFalcons82;1706941 wrote: Next, would you like to measure its success by how many taxpayers saved $2,500 on their premiums?
I think the $2500 must have referred to Obama voters, a.k.a the 47%, who would escape paying higher taxes to fund this massive entitlement.
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Feb 21, 2015 9:53am
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2015/02/19/fact-check-aca-enrollment-obama/23695525/


fact check....Obamacare is working (only if you move the goalposts)......from that right wing news outlet USA today.

Why stop lying about it now?
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Feb 21, 2015 10:53am
rydawg5;1706972 wrote:FWIW I think Obama has done a better job than Bush Jr. That might be like Brian Hoyer being better than Johnny Manziel.
/libtards
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rydawg5
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Feb 21, 2015 10:54am
SportsAndLady;1707074 wrote:/libtards
Funny my voting track record is:

04' Boosh

08' McCain

12' Johnson
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Feb 21, 2015 11:28am
rydawg5;1707075 wrote:Funny my voting track record is:

04' Boosh

08' McCain

12' Johnson
Not calling you a lib. Just that your comments were that of a lib.
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Feb 22, 2015 6:55pm
rydawg5;1706972 wrote:FWIW I think Obama has done a better job than Bush Jr.
I see zero discernible difference between the two.
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Feb 22, 2015 7:43pm
Cleveland Buck;1707297 wrote:I see zero discernible difference between the two.
What a smart and reasonable statement. /sarcasm
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rydawg5
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Feb 22, 2015 9:09pm
[url]http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/0f17b6e8-baad-11e4-8447-00144feab7de.html#axzz3SWtbXX1F

"The Department of Homeland Security secretary warned that the US’s efforts to stay ahead of threats by jihadist groups would be hampered if Congress failed to approve its $40bn budget by the end of the week."

As I was reading my mind was playing the new Miranda Lambert / something bad bout to happen song




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Feb 22, 2015 9:10pm
Commander of Awesome;1707304 wrote:What a smart and reasonable statement. /sarcasm
One is black? I don't consider that a difference.
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Feb 22, 2015 9:12pm
We should rejoice in the streets if DHS is defunded, but it will never happen. They are playing games, but both sides love huge bureaucracies that trample on the rights of the people.
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Feb 23, 2015 12:49am
I don't think we should continue to be "disgusted" about the Obama presidency. He has had some down moments but the stock market is very strong, hiring is at its strongest since the late 90s, unemployment is down and the ACA seems to actually be making some good headway. All things considered things are definitely better than they were in 2008
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Feb 23, 2015 7:22am
Classyposter58;1707348 wrote:I don't think we should continue to be "disgusted" about the Obama presidency. He has had some down moments but the stock market is very strong, hiring is at its strongest since the late 90s, unemployment is down and the ACA seems to actually be making some good headway. All things considered things are definitely better than they were in 2008
and you're considered the smartest and brightest for the future ..... We're fucked
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Feb 23, 2015 8:36am
Yeah, that was a dynamite drop in by classy....we only been talking about this for the past few pages:rolleyes:
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QuakerOats
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Feb 23, 2015 9:33am
Classyposter58;1707348 wrote:I don't think we should continue to be "disgusted" about the Obama presidency. He has had some down moments but the stock market is very strong, hiring is at its strongest since the late 90s, unemployment is down and the ACA seems to actually be making some good headway. All things considered things are definitely better than they were in 2008
obama campaigned on helping Main St., not Wall St. Yet Wall St. is up while real wages on Main St are down.

Unemployment is simply horrific as is employment --- fewer working today than in decades; most others have given up looking.

obamaKare is the largest legislative and administrative disaster in the history of the nation, and it is one of the biggest reasons why economic growth is terrible (especially coming out of a recession).

This country is sick, and without leadership. Not a good situation at all.
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Feb 24, 2015 11:18am
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gut
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Feb 24, 2015 11:57am
QuakerOats;1707771 wrote:
So what's going on here; obama stole your health care and now he is taking the internet?
The entire "net neutrality" argument is really an extension of class warfare and faux consumerism to create another political wedge issue.

And along those same lines, T-Mobile is whining about how it isn't fair to them in spectrum auctions because VZW and AT&T have too much money to bid. Well, T-Mobile, maybe charge your customers more so you can bid more.
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Feb 24, 2015 12:11pm
gut;1707783 wrote:The entire "net neutrality" argument is really an extension of class warfare and faux consumerism to create another political wedge issue.

And along those same lines, T-Mobile is whining about how it isn't fair to them in spectrum auctions because VZW and AT&T have too much money to bid. Well, T-Mobile, maybe charge your customers more so you can bid more.
Or T-Mobile could borrow the money if they think owning these spectrums will produce a higher ROI. It's lazy.