Disgusted with obama administration - Part II

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Aug 2, 2013 9:00 AM
gut;1481333 wrote:I'll stop being condescending when you stop spewing liberal BS. A bit premature to call the inquiries "spurious", no? And nothing is going to change the fact that in a perfect world these people are merely incompetent and undeserving of their position.

Gross incompetence AT BEST. People need to be fired. An Obama appointee is involved. Obama needs to take care of business and stop pretending like this is a phony scandal. It's beyond laughable, especially in the political realm that made the "fall guy" famous, that no one has been fired and Lois Lerner is on paid leave.

Does Obama ever do anything beside campaign? Apparently not, and apparently that is just fine with his supporters.
Remember I was with you pretty much when news of these "scandals" came to light. But, I was duped by Conservative Hyperventilation once again and they've pretty much turned out to be phony. You've got the talk radio crowd calling for select committees and special prosecutors, etc. but that's not gonna happen cus Boehner and co. in leadership know this stuff is mostly just meat to throw to the base who know Obama is corrupt and just need confirmation.

Boehner and Cantor aren't giving the Tea Party and their witch hunts the time of day either...
Aug 2, 2013 9:00am
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Aug 2, 2013 9:16 AM
Is it a witch hunt if there is a witch?

I mean, Benghazi, the IRS, the NSA - this is all made up?
Aug 2, 2013 9:16am
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Aug 2, 2013 9:23 AM
Manhattan Buckeye;1481658 wrote:Is it a witch hunt if there is a witch?
According to some...if it looks like a witch, smells like a witch, and talks like a witch...it's not a witch. Unless she's Austrian, perhaps.
Aug 2, 2013 9:23am
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Aug 2, 2013 9:34 AM
Manhattan Buckeye;1481658 wrote:Is it a witch hunt if there is a witch?

I mean, Benghazi, the IRS, the NSA - this is all made up?
Benghazi is not a scandal, at all, as it pertains to the death of the men there and the admin's response afterword (see the other thread). May be something to the CIA hush-hushing why they were there in the first place that we haven't heard about yet but the alleged "blaming on the video", letting the guys die, "stand-down" nonsense is...well...nonsense.

IRS isn't a scandal. Open-Source groups were affected the most. There was no political motivation against tea partiers based on the evidence.

NSA is a policy dispute. I happen to oppose the power granted the NSA by the patriot act and/or the manner in which it is interpreted but there is no scandal. Hopefully we can repeal the patriot act but there's no "scandal"

Yes...this is all made up for the most part.
Aug 2, 2013 9:34am
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Aug 2, 2013 9:57 AM
If the liberal intellectual elites say there are no scandals, then by God there are no scandals.



Now, where is my chardonnay.
Aug 2, 2013 9:57am
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Aug 2, 2013 10:44 AM
QuakerOats;1481677 wrote:If the liberal intellectual elites say there are no scandals, then by God there are no scandals.



Now, where is my chardonnay.
And your copy of New York Times and The Nation. It is absolutely buffoonish at this point.
Aug 2, 2013 10:44am
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Aug 2, 2013 11:00 AM
QuakerOats;1481677 wrote:If the liberal intellectual elites say there are no scandals, then by God there are no scandals.



Now, where is my chardonnay.
Why won't Boehner and Co. get the special prosecutors and the select committees that Republican voters are clamoring for? Are the committee chairman too power hungry to actually reveal these scandals for the public to see?

August recess. Better get on the horn with your congressmen. Let's get the impeachment proceedings, select committees, revolution etc. underway. Each day more and more people get on the democrat dole and the Republic dies a little inside...
Aug 2, 2013 11:00am
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Aug 2, 2013 11:06 AM
Employers added just 162,000 jobs to non-farm payrolls in July, the Bureau of Labor Statistics reported on Friday, down from 188,000 in June, which was revised lower from an initial reading of 195,000. Together, revisions to May and June figures subtracted 26,000 jobs from payrolls, another sign of weakness.
Economists, on average, had expected 185,000 new jobs in July and an unemployment rate of 7.5 percent, according to a Bloomberg survey.
The unemployment rate, meanwhile, fell in part because 37,000 workers dropped out of the labor force, meaning they gave up looking for work. The labor-force participation rate, which measures the percentage of working-age Americans who are working or looking for work, fell to 63.4 percent in July, near a 35-year low.
All of this is entirely predictable from the sequester and higher taxes taking demand out of the economy. The Fed is trying to get people to get people to spend with monetary offset but they're blowing that too. It's only going to get worse and we're looking at more spending cuts next year. Wonderful! But that incredible shrinking deficit is bringing teh confidence hard! lol.
Aug 2, 2013 11:06am
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Aug 2, 2013 11:10 AM
Holder appoints the special prosecuters, right.



And now this:
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/08/breaking-obama-administration-is-hiding-benghazi-survivors-dispursing-them-around-the-country-and-changing-their-names-video/


So we have Benghazi, and all its lies and coverups and continued lies and coverups. And we have the IRS and its tyrannical operations going all the way (at a minimum) to the IRS Chief Counsel himself in D.C., one of only 2 obama IRS appointees. And of course we have NSA threatening the very core of what remains of our liberty.

You're right; these are not scandals; they are acts of criminal behavior and tyranny.
Aug 2, 2013 11:10am
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Aug 2, 2013 4:12 PM
BoatShoes;1481695 wrote: Wonderful! But that incredible shrinking deficit is bringing teh confidence hard! lol.
That's the wonderful Obamaconomy we have. But the sequester "austerity disaster" certainly hasn't been noticeable.

And if a doctor only cuts off 1.5 of your legs it doesn't inspire a lot of confidence that you'll walk again, does it? I mean, you're chirping about a deficit that will still probably be north of $800B.
Aug 2, 2013 4:12pm
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Aug 3, 2013 7:35 AM
"Benghazi is not a scandal, at all,"

No, four Americans died and we all looked like idiots because our government tried to sell a bill of goods that was laughable on its face (and his supporters actually bought it). I think GWB would be impeached if his administration pulled that type of stunt.

I have no idea why people support politicians that make their constituents out to be complete fools.
Aug 3, 2013 7:35am
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Aug 3, 2013 9:52 AM
BoatShoes;1481692 wrote:Why won't Boehner and Co. get the special prosecutors and the select committees that Republican voters are clamoring for?
Boehner & Co. are cowards, Beltway insiders, and basically as inept as the morons occupying the White House. They would prefer not to rock the political boat. Basically Boehner and most of the establishment House GOP "leadership" are Democrats-lite.
Aug 3, 2013 9:52am
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Aug 3, 2013 9:54 AM
BoatShoes;1481692 wrote:Why won't Boehner and Co. get the special prosecutors and the select committees that Republican voters are clamoring for?
Boehner & Co. are cowards, Beltway insiders, and basically as inept as the corrupt morons occupying the White House. They would prefer not to rock the political boat. Basically Boehner and most of the establishment House GOP "leadership" are Democrats-lite.
Aug 3, 2013 9:54am
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Aug 3, 2013 9:55 AM
You forgot Chris Christie.

I am not bullish on America's future. We are easily looking at US$22T of debt before Obama's term is up, and likely another US$10T if Hillary! wins.

I didn't agree with many of Mitt Romney's positions, but his comment about the 47% might prove to be understated.
Aug 3, 2013 9:55am
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Aug 3, 2013 9:56 AM
Manhattan Buckeye;1481932 wrote:I have no idea why people support politicians that make their constituents out to be complete fools.
Stupid is as stupid does, sir.
Aug 3, 2013 9:56am
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Aug 3, 2013 12:11 PM
believer;1481949 wrote:Boehner & Co. are cowards, Beltway insiders, and basically as inept as the corrupt morons occupying the White House. They would prefer not to rock the political boat. Basically Boehner and most of the establishment House GOP "leadership" are Democrats-lite.
I think all of these scandals could, and would, have happened under a Repub. The difference is the POTUS would not be getting a pass for sticking his head in the sand and pretending like there are no problems.
Aug 3, 2013 12:11pm
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Aug 3, 2013 12:27 PM
gut;1481980 wrote:I think all of these scandals could, and would, have happened under a Repub. The difference is the POTUS would not be getting a pass for sticking his head in the sand and pretending like there are no problems.
agreed

That's why I'm not a fan of the mainstream media. If they were half as zealous about scrutinizing Dems in the WH as Repubs some truth might be revealed to the Mericun Sheeple.
Aug 3, 2013 12:27pm
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Aug 3, 2013 1:10 PM
Manhattan Buckeye;1481932 wrote:"Benghazi is not a scandal, at all,"

No, four Americans died and we all looked like idiots because our government tried to sell a bill of goods that was laughable on its face (and his supporters actually bought it). I think GWB would be impeached if his administration pulled that type of stunt.

I have no idea why people support politicians that make their constituents out to be complete fools.
I wish you guys would just start the proceedings if it's so obvious that this is the case. (and, just as reminder, this bill of goods you think was sold was not actually the case).

Some of the things we're starting to hear about what the CIA was actually doing there could amount to something but nothing related to the attack was a scandal.
Aug 3, 2013 1:10pm
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Aug 3, 2013 1:13 PM
gut;1481785 wrote:That's the wonderful Obamaconomy we have. But the sequester "austerity disaster" certainly hasn't been noticeable.

And if a doctor only cuts off 1.5 of your legs it doesn't inspire a lot of confidence that you'll walk again, does it? I mean, you're chirping about a deficit that will still probably be north of $800B.
It has been noticeable and even Republicans are starting to realize that more cuts on the horizon in January aren't going to be palatable. That, in conjunction with the payroll tax raise are predominantly the reasons why the economy is sucking.

I don't quite understand your analogy of the leg to the deficit. The chopping off is the gradual chopping of of a leg/people's money in their pocket books from the government putting less money in people's pockets (sequester) and taking more money out of their pockets (tax raises).
Aug 3, 2013 1:13pm
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Aug 3, 2013 1:15 PM
believer;1481982 wrote:agreed

That's why I'm not a fan of the mainstream media. If they were half as zealous about scrutinizing Dems in the WH as Repubs some truth might be revealed to the Mericun Sheeple.
What's great is we've never had such diversity in the news. Yet, most americans don't seem to be persuaded by the Drudge Report, Talk Radio, Fox News, The Daily Caller....

Why can they not see through the pandering/slobbering love affair of teh Lame Stream Media???
Aug 3, 2013 1:15pm
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Aug 3, 2013 1:17 PM
believer;1481949 wrote:Boehner & Co. are cowards, Beltway insiders, and basically as inept as the corrupt morons occupying the White House. They would prefer not to rock the political boat. Basically Boehner and most of the establishment House GOP "leadership" are Democrats-lite.
See...this ish be cray.

Just because they aren't as hardcore as say, Ted Cruz, doesn't mean they are anything close to democrat-lite. Boehner is a pretty hardcore conservative in pretty much every sense.
Aug 3, 2013 1:17pm
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Aug 3, 2013 2:49 PM
gut;1481785 wrote:That's the wonderful Obamaconomy we have. But the sequester "austerity disaster" certainly hasn't been noticeable.

And if a doctor only cuts off 1.5 of your legs it doesn't inspire a lot of confidence that you'll walk again, does it? I mean, you're chirping about a deficit that will still probably be north of $800B.
So far, as the cuts area only in place for May to September. Whereas the cuts to FY14 impact the whole FY, so they will have more of an impact.
Companies braced well for the FY13 cuts, but longer than that you will see more of the impact.
Plus, the furloughs are wreaking havoc in the DOD. It is pretty much a 3 day work week as Mondays and Fridays are furlough days. One agency will be furloughed on Monday, the other on Friday, so meeting and getting things done is nearly impossible.

Also, that impacts the contractors as they need the Government to bill and pay them. Those are getting delayed as well. And it is only August. And, other contracts that are supposed to be awarded or RFPs on the street are delayed, driving up costs for things like IT Services or Professional support services.

It is isn't bad because you all have not felt the impact yet. It is coming, especially if they survive the FY14 budget.
Aug 3, 2013 2:49pm
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Aug 3, 2013 3:00 PM
BoatShoes;1481989 wrote:Boehner is a pretty hardcore conservative in pretty much every sense.
Anyone right of Barry H. Soetoro is a hardcore conservative to liberals like you.
Aug 3, 2013 3:00pm