justincredible
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Jun 14, 2013 10:26am
This bitch...ernest_t_bass;1457428 wrote:
justincredible
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Jun 14, 2013 10:26am
Also, this bitch...
justincredible
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Jun 14, 2013 3:49pm
Also, this bitch...
ernest_t_bass
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ernest_t_bass
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ernest_t_bass
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O-Trap
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Jun 15, 2013 12:03pm
I lol'd!ernest_t_bass;1458192 wrote:
believer
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Jun 15, 2013 12:10pm
ernest_t_bass;1458192 wrote:
Ehhhh....Sounds good but as Baron Actons said, "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely."
Don't fool yourself into believing Libertarians are immune from being as stupid as Repubs and Dems.
O-Trap
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Jun 15, 2013 12:22pm
Never liked that quote. Baron Actons must not have been familiar with the numerous monarchs who were fair and just to their people throughout history. Granted, they were in the minority, but they did exist.believer;1458244 wrote:Ehhhh....Sounds good but as Baron Actons said, "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely."
Don't fool yourself into believing Libertarians are immune from being as stupid as Repubs and Dems.
And there are plenty of stupid Libertarians already. Difference is that the concept of leaving people alone is baked right into the identity of Libertarianism. When something ceases to be freedom-supporting, it ventures further away from Libertarianism itself.
And just so I don't get the "memes" whining again:
justincredible
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Jun 17, 2013 9:25am
Awesome.O-Trap;1458246 wrote:Never liked that quote. Baron Actons must not have been familiar with the numerous monarchs who were fair and just to their people throughout history. Granted, they were in the minority, but they did exist.
And there are plenty of stupid Libertarians already. Difference is that the concept of leaving people alone is baked right into the identity of Libertarianism. When something ceases to be freedom-supporting, it ventures further away from Libertarianism itself.
And just so I don't get the "memes" whining again:
believer
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Devils Advocate
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IggyPride00
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believer
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ernest_t_bass
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justincredible
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Jun 21, 2013 12:25pm
This is great. Reps. Also, it ties in nicely with what I came here to post.ernest_t_bass;1460829 wrote:
SportsAndLady
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justincredible
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Commander of Awesome
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Jun 24, 2013 12:37pm
Yea... considering there isn't a single country now nor in history that has a libertarian government, that means that authoritarianism has always reigned.ernest_t_bass;1460829 wrote:
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QuakerOats
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O-Trap
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Jun 24, 2013 9:57pm
Commander of Awesome;1462082 wrote:Yea... considering there isn't a single country now nor in history that has a libertarian government, that means that authoritarianism has always reigned.
This is somewhat true, though the title "Libertarian" is rather contemporary. Some of the early presidents would have been somewhat closer to it than we've had as of recently. Jefferson seems to have been, in many ways, "liberty-leaning."
Authoritarianism has been around for millenia. Monarchs were technically authoritarian in principle, though occasionally they functioned in a relatively absent capacity, appearing more like liberty-leaning.
But as a rule, it will be more difficult for someone to seize control in order for everyone to be left alone than it will be for someone to seize control in order to impose himself on the populous.
Meh ... I'm not sure that throwing the first pitch, even in New York at the time, is the best indicator of whether or not a president's allegiances are with the US.QuakerOats;1462217 wrote:http://stg.do/ZRVc
When you were proud of your president and his allegiance to the country.
Belly35
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Jun 26, 2013 9:53am
Perfect ... We can't say that today nor will the future history of America verify this Community Oragnizer as a learder.QuakerOats;1462217 wrote:http://stg.do/ZRVc
When you were proud of your president and his allegiance to the country.