O-Trap;1861007 wrote:

gosh a ruddies, it won't and people will die.

gut;1861012 wrote:

gosh a ruddies! And people had healthier lives and lived longer.

isadore;1861013 wrote:gosh a ruddies, it won't and people will die.

"It won't."

What won't? The statement was about whether or not someone who doesn't want things done at proverbial gunpoint automatically doesn't want them done at all.

Also, memes.

Gosh a ruddies and then those in need are free to suffer and die by your consent.

isadore;1861023 wrote:Gosh a ruddies and then those in need are free to suffer and die by your consent.

If I wasn't paying 35-40% of my little paycheck in taxes, I'd be free to help those around me as they have need. When things were fatter I did as much.

Is it a good idea, and do most people think so? If so, then just let people do it instead of getting a bloated federal agency and underling teams to oversee it.

If I have $2 to spare, and you need $2, I can give you $2, and the problem is solved. If I have $2 to spare, and you need $2, and there's an agency set up to oversee my giving you $2, they're also going to require me to contribute to the income of the people in the agency, so I end up paying more than I have to spare ... say $2.15 ... and you still only get $2.

But yeah, that's the better option.

Also, again, memes.

Can you imagine the abuses if college were free? 6-yr vacation on the taxpayer dime because YOU KNOW colleges would have little incentive to fail people out.

Then if you try to impose a 2.7 minimum qualifying GPA (which would just cause grade inflation, anyway) you'll probably be called racist.

gut;1861046 wrote:Can you imagine the abuses if college were free? 6-yr vacation on the taxpayer dime because YOU KNOW colleges would have little incentive to fail people out.

Then if you try to impose a 2.7 minimum qualifying GPA (which would just cause grade inflation, anyway) you'll probably be called racist.

You would also see plenty of schools trying to keep students above a 2.7, by hook or by crook, because it means more $$$.

The biggest lie anyone has every believed about public or private non-profit organizations is that those who run them don't care about money.

O-Trap;1861045 wrote:If I wasn't paying 35-40% of my little paycheck in taxes, I'd be free to help those around me as they have need. When things were fatter I did as much.

Is it a good idea, and do most people think so? If so, then just let people do it instead of getting a bloated federal agency and underling teams to oversee it.

If I have $2 to spare, and you need $2, I can give you $2, and the problem is solved. If I have $2 to spare, and you need $2, and there's an agency set up to oversee my giving you $2, they're also going to require me to contribute to the income of the people in the agency, so I end up paying more than I have to spare ... say $2.15 ... and you still only get $2.

But yeah, that's the better option.

Also, again, memes.

Gosh a ruddies, depending on the charity of others when thinks are "fatter" for themselves is recipe for economic suffering on a massive scale.
Just and excuse for self centered greed. I got mine, screw you.

Gosh a ruddies, our safety net saved American people from untold suffering.

isadore;1861063 wrote:Gosh a ruddies, our safety net saved American people from untold suffering.

but what you want is all those to be a safety anchor when they were supposed to just be a safety net.

isadore;1861062 wrote: Just and excuse for self centered greed. I got mine, screw you.

More like I worked for mine, go work for yours.

But if you want clean my toilets, I respect that as an honest living.

isadore;1861063 wrote:Gosh a ruddies, our safety net saved American people from untold suffering.

Is that a meme for ants?

gut;1861012 wrote:

if that is a stab at teachers unions.....we all know the gig going in. If you want that schedule and pay go get yourself a degree, go apply for a job against 400 other people and let me know how easy it is to get that job. Other than that, you had your choice and chose another career that didnt get summers off. Dont complain you had a chance.

gut;1861067 wrote:More like I worked for mine, go work for yours.

But if you want clean my toilets, I respect that as an honest living.

Gosh a ruddies, of course you would pick a degrading job for the person in need. Your philosophy I got mine, now I can exploit you.

Spock;1861064 wrote:but what you want is all those to be a safety anchor when they were supposed to just be a safety net.

no

isadore;1861062 wrote: Just and excuse for self centered greed. I got mine, screw you.

Got mine without the governments help or wasting other taxpayers dollars...



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iclfan2;1861080 wrote:Got mine without the governments help or wasting other taxpayers dollars...



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Gosh a ruddies, I am sure we can go through your life and find some government produced goods and services that helped you get yours.

isadore;1861084 wrote:Gosh a ruddies, I am sure we can go through your life and find some government produced goods and services that helped you get yours.

Not enough that would have changed my life. Point being it isn't "got mine now F off". It's not being an idiot, seeing what's broken, and fixing it. If food stamps and Medicaid had better "rules" on what it can be used for you'd see savings immediately. Transgender medication, nope. Candy bars and soda, nope. I'm all for taxes having to go to keeping people from dying, but let's try to keep some level of governance on the handouts.


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You all really suck at posting memes, cartoons, funny videos, etc.

isadore;1861078 wrote:Gosh a ruddies, of course you would pick a degrading job for the person in need. Your philosophy I got mine, now I can exploit you.

It's an honest living. Why do you degrade these people?

gut;1861087 wrote:It's an honest living. Why do you degrade these people?

Gosh a ruddies, out of every possible job in this world, you select cleaning the receptacle for your urine and feces as what they would want to do. Now that is degrading to them.

iclfan2;1861085 wrote:Not enough that would have changed my life. Point being it isn't "got mine now F off". It's not being an idiot, seeing what's broken, and fixing it. If food stamps and Medicaid had better "rules" on what it can be used for you'd see savings immediately. Transgender medication, nope. Candy bars and soda, nope. I'm all for taxes having to go to keeping people from dying, but let's try to keep some level of governance on the handouts.


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Gosh a ruddies, And in the beginning your pregnant mother traveled in an government inspected vehicle on a government built road to a hospital receiving government funding where you were delivered by government licensed doctors and nurses. And that is just the beginning.
But then we see self-righteous puritanical bigot using the withholding of government funds to punish the poor and others you are prejudiced against including the poor and the LGBTQ community.