dlazz;1309885 wrote:The way I've learned to cope with the switching is really this: The "start" menu is really just a start menu. You didn't sit there with the start menu open 99% of the time, did you? No, you spent all of your time at the desktop.

I spend about 95% of my time at my desktop in Firefox/Chrome/whatever.

Right. But they did away with most of the desktop features, or at least it seems unless you know how? Like, how do you put desktop shortcuts to software and such?

And that still doesn't explain why Windows flips back and forth between 2 different interfaces. I still think that is a huge flaw.

Microsoft fixed the "glitch" for getting the Windows 8 upgrade for $14.99 without a Windows 7 key. Glad I got mine when I did!

http://asia.cnet.com/microsoft-closes-windows-8-upgrade-offer-loophole-62219290.htm

WebFire;1309892 wrote:Right. But they did away with most of the desktop features, or at least it seems unless you know how? Like, how do you put desktop shortcuts to software and such?

And that still doesn't explain why Windows flips back and forth between 2 different interfaces. I still think that is a huge flaw.

It's not so much a flaw as it is a change. For example, you can still hit the Start button and start typing whatever application you want and it'll run the search as you type. I try and keep my desktop as clean as possible, so I can't help you there. You can still do the Right click -> New -> Shortcut stuff though.

dlazz;1309897 wrote:It's not so much a flaw as it is a change. For example, you can still hit the Start button and start typing whatever application you want and it'll run the search as you type. I try and keep my desktop as clean as possible, so I can't help you there. You can still do the Right click -> New -> Shortcut stuff though.

I understand the change. I actually don't mind the change part. I think they should have went with more Metro and less of the old desktop. That's why I think it's flawed. The execution is flawed. There is no reason it should flip flop between 2 entirely different interfaces. It seems like 2 different operating systems mashed together.

JMO.

WebFire;1309980 wrote:I understand the change. I actually don't mind the change part. I think they should have went with more Metro and less of the old desktop. That's why I think it's flawed. The execution is flawed. There is no reason it should flip flop between 2 entirely different interfaces. It seems like 2 different operating systems mashed together.

JMO.

Because Metro apps aren't suited for the type of workflows that some people need.

They fucked up even the little things. It takes four actions to shutdown instead of two. :rolleyes:

Here's a bunch of tips and ticks on Windows 8.

Right-clicking the Start Menu is incredibly helpful.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2012885/20-must-know-windows-8-tips-and-tricks.html#jump?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews

That's all fine and good, but I shouldn't have to learn a bunch of tricks and keyboard shortcuts to use an operating system. Windows 8 for business is definitely out. I don't have the time to teach all our employees how to use their operating system. Nor would they tolerate it.

Another example of having what seems like 2 totally separate systems. If you open Chrome from the Start screen, and then download a program and run it, nothing happens because it opens on the desktop. But you don't know that...it gives you zero indication of that. So I had to go to the desktop to see it. Same with opening docs from the browser. I downloaded an Excel doc in Chrome and opened it. Nothing. It was open on the desktop.

That is major fail.

WebFire;1311004 wrote:I downloaded an Excel doc in Chrome and opened it. Nothing. It was open on the desktop.

That is major fail.

Without a doubt. If I open a document of any kind, I expect the "Window" to open automatically. I don't want to "drill" to the desktop to find it.

I think Microsoft is so desperate to create a "must have" that they continue to fail. Their last valid "must have" was the move from Windows 3.1 to Windows 95. Then they finally got Windows 95 right when XP was deployed.

I'm nowhere near ready to go from Win 7 to 8. I'll give these morons a couple of more years to get Windows 8 right.

Cannot seem open more than 1 remote desktop session in Windows 8. That is bad for an IT person.

More fail. Chrome "app" from the start menu is completely different than chrome the "software" on the desktop. Of for some reason unknown to me, the icon from the start menu has started to open the desktop version. So it's like starting with a fresh Chrome install.

Bad bad bad.

WebFire;1314527 wrote:More fail. Chrome "app" from the start menu is completely different than chrome the "software" on the desktop. Of for some reason unknown to me, the icon from the start menu has started to open the desktop version. So it's like starting with a fresh Chrome install.

Bad bad bad.

The Chrome "app" is in alpha stage I believe. Now you're just nitpicking.

Haha how is that nitpicking? 1 application, 2 interfaces, 2 installs of the application. Windows changes which one it uses by default. I lose my info.

WebFire;1314579 wrote:Haha how is that nitpicking? 1 application, 2 interfaces, 2 installs of the application. Windows changes which one it uses by default. I lose my info.

You're complaining about an unfinished app not working properly.

dlazz;1315576 wrote:You're complaining about an unfinished app not working properly.

The mistake is mixing apps and software. Like I said, it's like 2 operating systems in 1. I am certainly not the only one with this opinion.

Also, you find it acceptable to have apps of maintstream software that are broken but available in the store? I certainly don't.

WebFire;1315582 wrote:Also, you find it acceptable to have apps of maintstream software that are broken but available in the store? I certainly don't.

It's not "acceptable" by any means, but Microsoft is probably letting a lot through right now that they normally wouldn't. I'd fathom the "apps" will be considerably better 6 months from now.