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sleeper

Posts: 27,879

Oct 25, 2012 9:10am

SportsAndLady;1304077 wrote:I saw something that the NFL only donates 5% of the pink merchandise sales to the Susan G Komen foundation. Not sure if it's true or not, if it is that is pretty fucking low.

You'd also be outraged to know that of their 450 million dollar a year revenue, they only spend $75,000,000 for cancer research. That's a joke.

ts1227

Posts: 12,319

Oct 25, 2012 9:53am

SportsAndLady;1304077 wrote:I saw something that the NFL only donates 5% of the pink merchandise sales to the Susan G Komen foundation. Not sure if it's true or not, if it is that is pretty fucking low.

The Komen Foundation can fuck off regardless.

But yeah, it's more about fundraising than "awareness" now, but there's nothing wrong with that IMO

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isadore

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Oct 25, 2012 9:57am

Devils Advocate;1304078 wrote:Translation: Does not have a vagina, has not seen one, and could not pick one out of a line up that included a mop, a picture of Osama Binladen, a vagina, and a picture of Justin Beeber.

well I am rubber and your glue whatever bounces off me, sticks to you.

sleeper

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Oct 25, 2012 10:13am

Isadore thank you for your contribution to this thread. I believe that even I can be redeemed.

power i

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Oct 25, 2012 11:06am

The awareness is getting women to get mamograms and do self breast exams, ie early detection. Not a huge fan of Koman, but they do alot more than just cancer research. They have many programs for women going through treatment (Look Good/Feel Better, wigs, etc.). My sister had breast cancer 13 years ago, so we started raising money for Race for the Cure. After research we have since switched to Relay for Life and the American Cancer Society.

And as far as the NFL only donating 5% of profits, do you realize that every flippin' jr high and high school football player in the United States is sporting at least one pink item? I'm sure it's more $$ than it seems.

Anyway, sorry to be so serious. Back to your mature convo about tits, v-jays and balls.

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Con_Alma

Posts: 12,198

Oct 25, 2012 11:29am

power i;1304143... wrote: And as far as the NFL only donating 5% of profits, do you realize that every flippin' jr high and high school football player in the United States is sporting at least one pink item? I'm sure it's more $$ than it seems.
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Many if not most of those articles are not affiliated organizations that donate to the cause. They are simply other companies parlaying off of the fad and profiting from it with increased sales of their own articles....that just happen to be made in pink.

power i

Posts: 1,296

Oct 25, 2012 11:40am

Dick's had all their pink football stuff on one display. The NFL, Nike and UnderArmor all were clearly marked that proceeds to Koman. There was quite a bit of other stuff that had nothing on it.

I didn't buy that crap. Although that crap was a whole lot cheaper than the NFL, Nike and UA crap.

ernest_t_bass

Posts: 24,984

Oct 25, 2012 11:44am

So what exactly is wrong with Komen for the Cure? Honest question.

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Con_Alma

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Oct 25, 2012 11:45am

power i;1304173 wrote:****'s had all their pink football stuff on one display. The NFL, Nike and UnderArmor all were clearly marked that proceeds to Koman. There was quite a bit of other stuff that had nothing on it. I didn't buy that crap. Although that crap was a whole lot cheaper than the NFL, Nike and UA crap.

You could accomplish your goal by buying the other "crap" to raise awareness and then donate directly to the American Cancer society an amount lower than 5% equivalent profit of an NFL, Nike, UA product and still spend less money.

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MontyBrunswick

Oct 25, 2012 11:48am

ernest_t_bass;1304060 wrote:Fitting advertisement on this page:

The ad provider justin is using probably scours the thread for keywords and supplies ads relevant to the content. If there were a discussion about football, it might show ads for sports memorabilia.

gorocks99

Posts: 10,760

Oct 25, 2012 11:49am

ernest_t_bass;1304181 wrote:So what exactly is wrong with Komen for the Cure? Honest question.

The biggest complaint is that a small-ish proportion of the money they raise goes directly to their cause (that is, finding a cure for breast cancer). A large proportion - larger than many charities - goes toward administrative and marketing costs. The 3-days, 10k's, walks and other things don't just organize themselves - Komen has to pay for them. And, as a trade off, contributes less to the actual science-y stuff that could find better treatments for the disease.

ernest_t_bass

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Oct 25, 2012 11:49am

dlazz;1304186 wrote:The ad provider justin is using probably scours the thread for keywords and supplies ads relevant to the content. If there were a discussion about football, it might show ads for sports memorabilia.

I'm not retarded. I understand how adsense works. Thanks.

Heretic

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Oct 25, 2012 11:58am

ernest_t_bass;1304190 wrote:I'm not retarded. I understand how adsense works. Thanks.

There are two lies in the above quote. However, the "thanks" is sincere.

sleeper

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Oct 25, 2012 12:07pm

power i;1304143 wrote:The awareness is getting women to get mamograms and do self breast exams, ie early detection. Not a huge fan of Koman, but they do alot more than just cancer research. They have many programs for women going through treatment (Look Good/Feel Better, wigs, etc.). My sister had breast cancer 13 years ago, so we started raising money for Race for the Cure. After research we have since switched to Relay for Life and the American Cancer Society.

And as far as the NFL only donating 5% of profits, do you realize that every flippin' jr high and high school football player in the United States is sporting at least one pink item? I'm sure it's more $$ than it seems.

Anyway, sorry to be so serious. Back to your mature convo about tits, v-jays and balls.

Maybe we need awareness for taking care of yourself; geez what a concept! :thumbdown:

Embarrassing that you fell for their scam.

sleeper

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Oct 25, 2012 12:08pm

ernest_t_bass;1304181 wrote:So what exactly is wrong with Komen for the Cure? Honest question.

Most of their money is spent promoting their own foundation and padding their employees wallets. Very little is actually spent doing anything positive.

AWARENESS. LOL

ernest_t_bass

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Oct 25, 2012 1:23pm

Heretic;1304201 wrote:There are two lies in the above quote. However, the "thanks" is sincere.

Oh?

Heretic

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Oct 25, 2012 1:25pm

ernest_t_bass;1304243 wrote:Oh?

Oh, indeed.

power i

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Oct 25, 2012 1:28pm

Yeah, I could have bought the cheaper crap, but if you have kids, you know they want the crap with the swoosh on it.

(So sue me, I have spoiled kids.)

And FYI Sleeper, I (and most women I know) do take care of ourselves. But unfortunately there is a large percentage of women out there who for some reason need to be reminded or get it done for free. (I think it's about 47%.)

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Con_Alma

Posts: 12,198

Oct 25, 2012 1:40pm

power i;1304247 wrote:Yeah, I could have bought the cheaper crap, but if you have kids, you know they want the crap with the swoosh on it. (So sue me, I have spoiled kids.)

And FYI Sleeper, I (and most women I know) do take care of ourselves. But unfortunately there is a large percentage of women out there who for some reason need to be reminded or get it done for free. (I think it's about 47%.)

If you wanted the swoosh it makes sense to buy it. No need to justify it other than it's your money and that's what you wanted. We were discussing the money which was donated. That doesn't seem to be a reason to buy a certain "brand".

O-Trap

Posts: 14,994

Oct 25, 2012 1:43pm

Still, it even depends on how it's spent by the SGK Foundation.

I actually side with sleeper on "awareness" campaigns. It's code for "fundraising for advertising."

O-Trap

Posts: 14,994

Oct 25, 2012 2:02pm

Here's an example of something raising money to do actual things and has actual metrics to go along with it:
http://www.indiegogo.com/1facewatch

And one of their causes is indeed breast cancer. The difference is that they are up front about saying that a specific number sold pays for a mammogram.

sleeper

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Oct 25, 2012 2:59pm

power i;1304247 wrote:Yeah, I could have bought the cheaper crap, but if you have kids, you know they want the crap with the swoosh on it. (So sue me, I have spoiled kids.)

And FYI Sleeper, I (and most women I know) do take care of ourselves. But unfortunately there is a large percentage of women out there who for some reason need to be reminded or get it done for free. (I think it's about 47%.)

Darwin had a way of solving this problem.

tk421

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Oct 25, 2012 5:19pm

You know guys have breasts too, right? Guys actually DO get breast cancer. Never see anything about that during breast cancer awareness though.

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isadore

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Oct 25, 2012 5:58pm

sleeper;1304117 wrote:Isadore thank you for your contribution to this thread. I believe that even I can be redeemed.

And thank you for your graciousness. you of course can be redeemed.

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isadore

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Oct 25, 2012 6:15pm

gosh a ruddies a worthy cause, but breast cancer is pretty far down the list of what actually kills women.
http://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/usa-cause-of-death-by-age-and-gender