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zach24oz
Posts: 598
Oct 21, 2012 4:23pm
Weeden has been playing well the last few weeks IMO. It's not his fault that the WRs are dropping TD passes and just "passes" in general. Yes, he's had his mistakes and bad throws, but that's expected...then again he's played well enough to be my guy going forward for the Browns, just need guys who can catch around him and bulk up the D. And get another coach.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Oct 21, 2012 4:24pm
Jason LaConforalike_that;1300879 wrote:Still waiting for you to name somebody who suggested to keep shurmur....
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Oct 21, 2012 4:24pm
Defense....several positions.said_aouita;1300883 wrote:Weeden is playing better it seems every week. What position do you consider is the largest need for the Browns?
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Oct 21, 2012 4:26pm
Linebacker is a glaring need....also, an edge rusher(not sure what the hell has happened to Sheard).BR1986FB;1300890 wrote:Defense....several positions.
Oline needs some attention as well
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Oct 21, 2012 4:26pm
Since the week 1 debacle he's had 9 TD's, 6 INT's and his passer rating, which I think it's a joke stat, has to be close to 90. QB is way down the list of this teams' needs going into 2013, most likely. Biggest need? Head Coach.zach24oz;1300886 wrote:Weeden has been playing well the last few weeks IMO. It's not his fault that the WRs are dropping TD passes and just "passes" in general. Yes, he's had his mistakes and bad throws, but that's expected...then again he's played well enough to be my guy going forward for the Browns, just need guys who can catch around him and bulk up the D. And get another coach.
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Oct 21, 2012 4:28pm
wes_mantooth;1300892 wrote:Linebacker is a glaring need....also, an edge rusher(not sure what the hell has happened to Sheard).
Oline needs some attention as well
Manti te'o would be nice
shook_17
Posts: 3,023
Oct 21, 2012 4:31pm
i don't know if they are focusing more on sheard this year because we have no other threats? but i would love Teo in the draft and a stud DE in free agency if there are any coming out. or maybe a saftey usama young is trash. i can play better at safety than this fool and i just had back surgery on wednesday. they should have keep david sims from the preseason so that dude could keep playing instead of trading him to the eagles.wes_mantooth;1300892 wrote:Linebacker is a glaring need....also, an edge rusher(not sure what the hell has happened to Sheard).
Oline needs some attention as well
Rotinaj
Posts: 7,699
Oct 21, 2012 4:32pm
Head coach is defintely the biggest need. Weeden had a bad 2nd half because Shurmur called fucking 40 yard passes every other play.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Oct 21, 2012 4:35pm
KR1245
Posts: 4,317
Oct 21, 2012 4:37pm
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zach24oz
Posts: 598
Oct 21, 2012 4:37pm
And when did T Rich leave the game? My power was out for about 10-15min. And is it just another rib injury or what?
shook_17
Posts: 3,023
Oct 21, 2012 4:37pm
is there really a chance shurmur is fired this week or is it just us fans hoping he is? haslam looked pretty pissed off in the box today.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Oct 21, 2012 4:38pm
scoring 13 points in a game hardly constitutes "having an offense", especially against the Colts.BR1986FB;1300900 wrote:
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Oct 21, 2012 4:40pm
I don't think he re-injured anything, he just wasn't healthy to begin with and obviously wasn't ready to come back.zach24oz;1300904 wrote:And when did T Rich leave the game? My power was out for about 10-15min. And is it just another rib injury or what?
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Oct 21, 2012 4:41pm
Offense is playing well enough to win games, imo. Defense is letting this team down. Yeah, they might get some opportunitistic turnovers but when you're giving up almost 450 ypg on defense you have a MAJOR issue on that side of the ball.Pick6;1300908 wrote:scoring 13 points in a game hardly constitutes "having an offense"
And they came into today averaging 22 ppg on OFFENSE. That should be enough to win games.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Oct 21, 2012 4:42pm
True, but they only gave up 17 points....as ugly as it was...it should have been enough. A dropped touchdown and absolutely terrible playcalling is the culprit here.BR1986FB;1300913 wrote:Offense is playing well enough to win games, imo. Defense is letting this team down. Yeah, they might get some opportunitistic turnovers but when you're giving up almost 450 ypg on defense you have a MAJOR issue on that side of the ball.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Oct 21, 2012 4:45pm
Today they gave up 17 points. Up until today it was 27 ppg.wes_mantooth;1300914 wrote:True, but they only gave up 17 points....as ugly as it was...it should have been enough. A dropped touchdown and absolutely terrible playcalling is the culprit here.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Oct 21, 2012 4:49pm
So its alright if the offense scores only 13 points, but not ok if the defense gives up 17 points?BR1986FB;1300913 wrote:Offense is playing well enough to win games, imo. Defense is letting this team down. Yeah, they might get some opportunitistic turnovers but when you're giving up almost 450 ypg on defense you have a MAJOR issue on that side of the ball.
League average for points per game:23 points
League average for points given up per game: 23 points
The Browns didnt lose because of the D...no matter how much you want to nut-hug Weeden. And I'm not saying he didnt play well, Im saying is your love with him is clouding your vision.
shook_17
Posts: 3,023
Oct 21, 2012 5:10pm
^^ lol what does weeden have to do with the the defense letting luck and vick ballard have their way with our defense. you are a fucking ididot. aren't you a cowboys fan?
Rotinaj
Posts: 7,699
Oct 21, 2012 5:41pm
If 186 yards and 0 passing tds is having his way with us I hope every qb has their way w us.
dazedconfused
Posts: 2,662
Oct 21, 2012 5:57pm
i like gordon saying the loss was on him. hopefully he comes out next sunday ready to rip san diego's collective heads off to make up for it
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Oct 21, 2012 6:17pm
wes_mantooth;1300914 wrote:True, but they only gave up 17 points....as ugly as it was...it should have been enough. A dropped touchdown and absolutely terrible playcalling is the culprit here.
Absolutely
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Oct 21, 2012 6:19pm
BR1986FB;1300913 wrote:Offense is playing well enough to win games, imo. Defense is letting this team down. Yeah, they might get some opportunitistic turnovers but when you're giving up almost 450 ypg on defense you have a MAJOR issue on that side of the ball.
And they came into today averaging 22 ppg on OFFENSE. That should be enough to win games.
Bolded for TOTAL IRRELEVANCY. What consequence does what happened previously have on today's game?
The defense wasn't terrible, although they didn't play well, but the offense sucked. Playcalling and the offense are to blame.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Oct 21, 2012 6:25pm
Agree with this. Weeden outplayed him...team just didn't do enough.Rotinaj;1300974 wrote:If 186 yards and 0 passing tds is having his way with us I hope every qb has their way w us.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Oct 21, 2012 6:38pm
Lol only in Cleveland do you hear this shit, man.
"If you just take out one game, he's been decent."
"our offense is playing well" 13 points against the lowly Colts
"our coach calls bad plays that make our QB look bad"
"I'm not going to blame it on the offense because they usually score 22 points a game."
"If you just take out one game, he's been decent."
"our offense is playing well" 13 points against the lowly Colts
"our coach calls bad plays that make our QB look bad"
"I'm not going to blame it on the offense because they usually score 22 points a game."