Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Oct 9, 2012 10:24pm
Get out early...add on and finish this up.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Oct 9, 2012 10:40pm
Appears the Reds are holding a closed-door meeting as we speak to discuss a potential roster move. Ownership, front office and the coaching staff are in there.
The risk of replacing Cueto would make it a no-brainer that Mike Leake would start game 4 and also a potential game 4 of the NLCS. If not Cueto, it sounds like it's possible they roll with Sam LeCure in game 4, with Simon, Hoover and others available if needed. With a loss, massive pressure would be on Mat Latos to return in game 5 against Matt Cain yet again.
The risk of replacing Cueto would make it a no-brainer that Mike Leake would start game 4 and also a potential game 4 of the NLCS. If not Cueto, it sounds like it's possible they roll with Sam LeCure in game 4, with Simon, Hoover and others available if needed. With a loss, massive pressure would be on Mat Latos to return in game 5 against Matt Cain yet again.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Oct 9, 2012 10:48pm
Azubuike24;1291551 wrote:Appears the Reds are holding a closed-door meeting as we speak to discuss a potential roster move. Ownership, front office and the coaching staff are in there.
The risk of replacing Cueto would make it a no-brainer that Mike Leake would start game 4 and also a potential game 4 of the NLCS. If not Cueto, it sounds like it's possible they roll with Sam LeCure in game 4, with Simon, Hoover and others available if needed. With a loss, massive pressure would be on Mat Latos to return in game 5 against Matt Cain yet again.
Latos can handle the game 5 pressure....not enough rest for him to go game 4.
Cairo DL with made up injury....replace him with Leake....if Cueto heals he can pitch the NLCS....you DL Cueto and he's unavailable for the NLCS.
IMO opinion...don't jump the gun. Start LeCure tomorrow...bring in Simon when he's spent....then Hoover or Dondo....if winnable use the Marshall/Chapman combo....if not save them also for game 5.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Oct 9, 2012 10:50pm
The good news is Zito is very beatable at GABP. They may very well be able to get away with that. Agreed, you can't deactivate Cueto. The goal is a title. You gotta get there first, but you won't win a series against STL or WAS without Cueto. Not happening. You have to risk keeping him around giving him another week to heal.
If it gets to 5, having to beat Cain again...not liking that.
If it gets to 5, having to beat Cain again...not liking that.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Oct 9, 2012 11:24pm
Looks like Mike Leake in Game 4
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Oct 9, 2012 11:29pm
Barry Zito career numbers vs the Reds:
3-5 record, 59 innings, 61 hits, 6.25 ERA, 1.54 WHIP, .265 BAA
Barry Zito career numbers at Great American Ballpark:
0-2 record, 31 innings, 32 hits, 6.10 ERA, 1.55 WHIP, .269 BAA
3-5 record, 59 innings, 61 hits, 6.25 ERA, 1.54 WHIP, .265 BAA
Barry Zito career numbers at Great American Ballpark:
0-2 record, 31 innings, 32 hits, 6.10 ERA, 1.55 WHIP, .269 BAA
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zach24oz
Posts: 598
Oct 9, 2012 11:43pm
I wasn't sure about Leake starting but with the matchup against Zito, I feel fine with it, and hope Dusty starts Frazier and Heisey. Those two are fresh and I think there will be a lot of runs scored tomorrow.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Oct 10, 2012 12:07am
Whole lot of over reaction from this game. Fellas, we have to win 1 out of 3 against the Giants, at GABP.
And Barry Zito is starting the next game.
This is Jocketty wanting a little extra revenue for the extra home game.
And Barry Zito is starting the next game.
This is Jocketty wanting a little extra revenue for the extra home game.
TedSheckler
Posts: 3,974
Oct 10, 2012 5:41am
Must replace a pitcher with a pitcher, according to Jim Day.Ironman92;1291558 wrote:Cairo DL with made up injury....replace him with Leake.
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Oct 10, 2012 7:14am
TedSheckler;1291637 wrote:Must replace a pitcher with a pitcher, according to Jim Day.
This is correct
Rotinaj
Posts: 7,699
Oct 10, 2012 8:02am
We need to beat zito. I really don't like the idea of facing Cain again.
osu45804
Posts: 6,188
Oct 10, 2012 10:16am
Mike Leake is starting Game 4... Instantly became a little worried all of a sudden
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Oct 10, 2012 10:30am
I was worried as soon as we lost last night, knowing our pitching situation. Wasn't comfortable with Latos going on 3 days rest, and I'm not comfortable with the alternative. I believe Leake had a very good game against the Giants earlier in the year though, so here's hoping for a repeat performance!osu45804;1291714 wrote:Mike Leake is starting Game 4... Instantly became a little worried all of a sudden
Rotinaj
Posts: 7,699
Oct 10, 2012 10:42am
Well the giants offense blows so I think Leake will be able to give us a solid 7 and give up about 3. I think we'll be tied at 3 when the bullpens take over and we win on a walk off. We NEED this win!!!
TedSheckler
Posts: 3,974
Oct 10, 2012 11:54am
Why did the Reds choose Mike Leake to replace the injured Johnny Cueto? He's 3-0 with a 0.77 ERA in his last 3 starts vs the Giants.
Rotinaj
Posts: 7,699
Oct 10, 2012 12:38pm
Frazier in the lineup today! He needs to play well and take rolens spot for the rest of the playoffs.
osu45804
Posts: 6,188
Oct 10, 2012 12:41pm
Game 4 Lineup
Phillips 4
Cozart 6
Votto 3
Ludwick 7
Bruce 9
Frazier 5
Navarro 2
Stubbs 8
Leake 1
Phillips 4
Cozart 6
Votto 3
Ludwick 7
Bruce 9
Frazier 5
Navarro 2
Stubbs 8
Leake 1
Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Oct 10, 2012 1:20pm
Giants lineup today averages .397 off leake in his career.
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Oct 10, 2012 1:20pm
Still w/ Stubbs....smh.osu45804;1291902 wrote:Game 4 Lineup
Phillips 4
Cozart 6
Votto 3
Ludwick 7
Bruce 9
Frazier 5
Navarro 2
Stubbs 8
Leake 1
Terry_Tate
Posts: 7,606
Oct 10, 2012 2:00pm
Reds lose 6-4.
I'll be there for this one, can't freaking wait. If the Reds win shit will get cray downtown.
I'll be there for this one, can't freaking wait. If the Reds win shit will get cray downtown.
Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Oct 10, 2012 2:23pm
Hope leake can Steal a win today. Lol
osu45804
Posts: 6,188
Oct 10, 2012 2:34pm
Hoping for at least 6 Innings from Leake & no more than 2 Runs with hopefully our offense showing back up
Rotinaj
Posts: 7,699
Oct 10, 2012 2:58pm
I think Bruce and BP continue to play well and Votto has a big game. Reds WIN 6-4.
osu45804
Posts: 6,188
Oct 10, 2012 4:02pm
FUCKING Leake....
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mhs95_06
Posts: 8,167
Oct 10, 2012 4:03pm
55F must not be cool enough for Leake to keep it inside the park!