I will start with the most recent : 150 Million for a electric car battery plant funded by the Federal Money .... failure
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/10/08/lg-plant-that-got-150m-to-make-volt-batteries-in-michigan-puts-workers-on/


next :laugh:

ccrunner609;1290797 wrote:his whole 4 years is a failure and he will go down as the worst president of all time.

Not even close

Harding,Hoover,Johnson,Nixon,Carter

ccrunner609;1290804 wrote:Really? He has single handedly set this countries economy back for the next 2 presidents. His foreign policy blunders have killed us in the middle east. We are so weak right now. People can attack our embassies and he does ABSOLUTLY NOTHING ABOUT IT. HE DID NOTHING.

He is a bigger failure then any you mentioned.

Really??

Hoover-Helped create Great Depression
Harding-Most corrupt President EVER
Johnson-Escalated Vietnam
Nixon-WaterGate

ccrunner609;1290797 wrote:his whole 4 years is a failure and he will go down as the worst president of all time.

Learn history, specifically the 19th and early 20th century.

ptown_trojans_1;1290829 wrote:Learn history, specifically the 19th and early 20th century.

eh...

There have been quite a few bad presidents in American history. Obama has earned his spot in the Top 10 regardless of century.

He's easily the worst in the 21st century.

Harding was no more corrupt than any other president of the 20th and 21st centuries. His handling of the 1920-21 depression (namely cut the budget in half, no federal handouts or corporate welfare, high interest rates) stamped out the crisis in a year and allowed for furious economic growth afterward. He was the last of the economically competent presidents.

Belly35;1290690 wrote:I will start with the most recent : 150 Million for a electric car battery plant funded by the Federal Money .... failure
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/10/08/lg-plant-that-got-150m-to-make-volt-batteries-in-michigan-puts-workers-on/


next :laugh:

Wait a second... you mean not all ideas work?



You should be ok with this Belly.. How many business have you had that you said went bankrupt?

ZWICK 4 PREZ;1291006 wrote:Wait a second... you mean not all ideas work?



You should be ok with this Belly.. How many business have you had that you said went bankrupt?

I don't know for sure, but I don't think Belly stole the money from other people to fund his bankrupt businesses. I know the government did.

Cleveland Buck;1291012 wrote:I don't know for sure, but I don't think Belly stole the money from other people to fund his bankrupt businesses. I know the government did.

I'm sure his accountant didn't decrease his tax liability in doing so either.

ZWICK 4 PREZ;1291006 wrote:Wait a second... you mean not all ideas work?



You should be ok with this Belly.. How many business have you had that you said went bankrupt?

Sorry you know nothing of entrepreneurs ….that was my money, my investment, my time and my responsibility. Not one tax payer or individual lost money but me...

That what entrepreneur do ……………and nobody made millions on my failure

Where as million spent, million lost, some made millions from your tax money, and you tax money pissed away.

Z4P since you like the government to pissing away your hard earn money how about you send the IRS more next April … and take away from your wife and family or better yet how about you just throw it in the urinal if the government spending your money it will have the same effect

Not one poor individual can eat battiers .. 150 million can provide a lot of meals

Belly35;1291022 wrote:Sorry you know nothing of entrepreneurs ….that was my money, my investment, my time and my responsibility. Not one tax payer or individual lost money but me...

That what entrepreneur do ……………and nobody made millions on my failure

Where as million spent, million lost, some made millions from your tax money, and you tax money pissed away.

Z4P since you like the government to pissing away your hard earn money how about you send the IRS more next April … and take away from your wife and family or better yet how about you just throw it in the urinal if the government spending your money it will have the same effect

Not one poor individual can eat battiers .. 150 million can provide a lot of meals

But you understand the concept that not all ideas succeed?

ZWICK 4 PREZ;1291033 wrote:But you understand the concept that not all ideas succeed?

True, problem is Obama only picks the losers. To be fair, that is a talent you can make a lot of money on (shorting stocks).

ZWICK 4 PREZ;1291033 wrote:But you understand the concept that not all ideas succeed?

How many failure have to happen before you wake up?

* Amonix Solar: FAIL! – manufacturing plant in North Las Vegas, subsidized by more than $20 million in federal tax credits and grants given by Obama Administration, has closed its 214,000 square foot facility a year after it opened.
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• Solar Trust of America: FAIL! - Filed Bankruptcy in Oakland, CA, April 3, 2012

• Bright Source: FAIL! - Bright Source warned Obama’s Energy Department officials in March 2011 that delays in approving a $1.6 billion U.S. loan guarantee would embarrass the White House and force the solar-energy company to close. Bright Source lost billions of dollars but is getting more money to keep trying. Can you say, “This isn’t working Mr. President?”

• Solyndra: FAIL! - Obama gave $500,000,000 (that’s a HALF BILLION!) in taxpayer money to Solyndra who shut its doors and laid off 1100 workers in August 2011 after billions in losses due to failure to make a solar product that works! Barack Obama was not vetted before being elected President and neither was Solyndra before Mr. Obama threw that taxpayer money down the drain of unproven technology.

• LSP Energy: FAIL! - LSPEnergy LP filed bankruptcy protection and a sale of its assets in Feb 2012

• Energy Conversion Devices: FAIL! – On February 14, 2012 Energy Conversion Devices, Inc. and its subsidiaries filed for bankruptcy

• Abound Solar: FAIL! - Abound Solar received a $400 million loan guarantee from Barack Obama then announced in June, 2012 that it would file for bankruptcy. Many of these failed corporations, such as Abound, donated MILLIONS and continue to donate to Barack Obama’s campaign. Can you say, “Democrat Slush Fund”? Yes this is illegal. But Democrats are being protected from being prosecuted, for now.

• SunPower: FAIL! - SunPower stopped producing solar cells in 2011 at near bankruptcy then restructured with the help of, get this, oil giant TOTAL, Inc. who owns 60% stake in SunPower. Irony? The company is still struggling.

• Beacon Power: FAIL! – Beacon Power Corp filed for bankruptcy protection in October, 2011 just a year after Obama approved a $43 million Government loan guarantee. They remain barely in business, still struggling to make energy that makes sense or that works at all.
• Ecotality: FAIL! - ECOtality, a San Francisco green-tech company that never earned any money and remains on the verge of bankruptcy after receiving roughly $115 million in two loan guarantees from President Obama, who wants to do some more of this kind of Democrat Slush Fund Guarantees after he is elected to a 2nd term.

• A123 Solar: FAIL! - A123 Solar received $279 million from taxpayers thanks to President Obama’s Department of Energy loan guarantees even after the Solyndra bankruptcy and is getting another $500M from Obama after a loss of $400M.

• UniSolar: FAIL! - Uni-Solar filed for Ch 11 bankruptcy in June 20, 2012 after laying off hundreds of workers. UniSolar received even more Obama money after showing now progress, no profits and is still failing… yet they still remain in business with Obama’s help.

• Azure Dynamics: FAIL! - Azure Dynamics filed for bankruptcy in June , 2012 wasting millions in Obama “Stimulus” money and received abatement on taxes owed and and several tax credits. Azure Dynamics LLC filed for bankruptcy protection in Canada and the US. Azure laid off 120 of its 160 employees in Oak Park; Boston; Vancouver, British Columbia; and the UK.

• Evergreen Solar: FAIL! - Evergreen Solar received $527 Million in Taxpayer money from Obama and filed bankruptcy in late 2011. Evergreen, which closed its taxpayer-supported Devens factory in March, 2011 cut more than 1800 jobs. Evergreen’s $450 million factory, turned out to be a colossal “waste” of taxpayer money.

• Ener1: FAIL! Ener1 Inc. received a $118 million U.S. Energy Department grant from President Obama to make electric-car batteries but filed for bankruptcy protection January 2012 after defaulting on bond debt.

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ZWICK 4 PREZ;1291016 wrote:I'm sure his accountant didn't decrease his tax liability in doing so either.

Decreasing tax liability is the opposite of stealing. It is preventing the theft of some of your own money.

Z4P is now MIA .... facts are facts .. failure is failure ... read them a weep mofo :laugh:

Cleveland Buck;1291108 wrote:Decreasing tax liability is the opposite of stealing. It is preventing the theft of some of your own money.

It's also contributing to our massive debt.

I know Paul Bot.. government spending is evil evil evil. Save it.

Belly35;1291190 wrote:facts are facts .. failure is failure

I'm glad you can accept this.

ZWICK 4 PREZ;1291194 wrote:I'm glad you can accept this.

See all that money pissed away on failure companies that the Great Black Hope that 98 % Blacks voted for, that never was the Hope, and he was never for their best interest. He was never for the Black Community another lie. The numbers of the past 32 months speak the truth. Give the poor Obamaphone is easy but a failure economic agenda keeps them unemployed, poverty and uneducated. Limited minutes and limited future..

What to end poverty (that what all you Liberal Democrat want right) take those billions that Obama pissed away and apply it to educating the children so 89 percent of Chicago graduation student can pass a proficiency test. Educate adults on being responsible citizens. Educate those in poverty on what is needed to change to get them out of poverty. You Dems what to tell people how much to drink, what to eat and how fat they are but you won’t tell those in poverty they are fuck ups and need to change their lives to help themselves. Give entitlement but no direction again is a easy fix but not the answer.

Industries will create itself and entrepreneurs will lead the way if government gets out of the way.

Z4P you vote Obama and that Mustang will be parked at $5.00 gallon

Obama want your money, freedom and liberties in exchange for what?

Belly35;1291209 wrote:See all that money pissed away on failure companies that the Great Black Hope that 98 % Blacks voted for, that never was the Hope, and he was never for their best interest. He was never for the Black Community another lie. The numbers of the past 32 months speak the truth. Give the poor Obamaphone is easy but a failure economic agenda keeps them unemployed, poverty and uneducated. Limited minutes and limited future..

What to end poverty (that what all you Liberal Democrat want right) take those billions that Obama pissed away and apply it to educating the children so 89 percent of Chicago graduation student can pass a proficiency test. Educate adults on being responsible citizens. Educate those in poverty on what is needed to change to get them out of poverty. You Dems what to tell people how much to drink, what to eat and how fat they are but you won’t tell those in poverty they are fuck ups and need to change their lives to help themselves. Give entitlement but no direction again is a easy fix but not the answer.

Industries will create itself and entrepreneurs will lead the way if government gets out of the way.

Z4P you vote Obama and that Mustang will be parked at $5.00 gallon

Obama want your money, freedom and liberties in exchange for what?

Yes I'm terrified of $5 a gallon.

ZWICK 4 PREZ;1291213 wrote:Yes I'm terrified of $5 a gallon.

ZWICK 4 PREZ;1291193 wrote:It's also contributing to our massive debt.

No, it isn't. You don't run up debt by not collecting/seizing enough money. You run up debt by borrowing money.

Cleveland Buck;1291255 wrote:No, it isn't. You don't run up debt by not collecting/seizing enough money. You run up debt by borrowing money.

Or by borrowing money then cutting tax revenue.

Devils Advocate;1291239 wrote:

[h=1]Gas When Bush Left Office, $1.78 -- Gas Today, $3.64 -- Highest Average Price in Calif., $4.20[/h]http://cnsnews.com/news/article/gas-when-bush-left-office-178-gas-today-364-highest-average-price-calif-420

Cleveland Buck;1291255 wrote:No, it isn't. You don't run up debt by not collecting/seizing enough money. You run up debt by borrowing money.

Pretty much anything in excess of 18% of GDP is a spending problem. Obama wants to sustain spending at 25% of GDP. The only way this can be accomplished is by massive deficits (nothing new there) and/or imposing a national sales tax/VAT. Yet Romney is the one being attacked for an alleged tax hike on the middle class (and bringing spending down to 20% of GDP by 2015 or whatever hardly makes him a deficit hawk).

When the govt debt bubble bursts the wealthy will be hurt, but it's the poor and middle class that will truly suffer.

ZWICK 4 PREZ;1291257 wrote:Or by borrowing money then cutting tax revenue.

Revenue has nothing to do with it, especially when that money isn't theirs to begin with. If they didn't collect a penny they still wouldn't have to borrow money.