
Ty Webb
Posts: 2,798
Oct 11, 2012 9:45am
fish82;1292502 wrote:Michigan moves to tossup.
Interesting.
Not gonna happen....Detroit Free Press had him up 7
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Oct 11, 2012 9:48am
Paul Ryan would have say the R&R team is going to eliminate SS, Medicare and Rowe vs Wade not to completely trounce Biden tonight.
...oh wait he did say that, my bad.
...oh wait he did say that, my bad.
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jmog
Posts: 6,567
Oct 11, 2012 10:06am
Link to Ryan saying all 3 of those things? I'd be interested in a video of him saying each and every one of them.Tiernan;1292532 wrote:Paul Ryan would have say the R&R team is going to eliminate SS, Medicare and Rowe vs Wade not to completely trounce Biden tonight.
...oh wait he did say that, my bad.
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Oct 11, 2012 10:50am
Relax, Ronnie Republican...it was meant as a joke. Even though the Dems would want you to believe Ryan wants to make these things happen.jmog;1292551 wrote:Link to Ryan saying all 3 of those things? I'd be interested in a video of him saying each and every one of them.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Oct 11, 2012 12:05pm
http://news.investors.com/special-report/508415-ibdtipp-poll.aspx
The rout is beginning to formulate. :thumbup:
The rout is beginning to formulate. :thumbup:
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jmog
Posts: 6,567
Oct 11, 2012 12:06pm
Not a republicanTiernan;1292578 wrote:Relax, Ronnie Republican...it was meant as a joke. Even though the Dems would want you to believe Ryan wants to make these things happen.

TedSheckler
Posts: 3,974
Oct 11, 2012 12:19pm
CBS 5 Poll: Romney Gains 8 Points On Faltering Obama In California
http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2012/10/10/cbs-5-poll-romney-gains-8-points-on-faltering-obama-in-california/
http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2012/10/10/cbs-5-poll-romney-gains-8-points-on-faltering-obama-in-california/

BGFalcons82
Posts: 2,173
Oct 11, 2012 12:23pm
Hhmmmm....TedSheckler;1292641 wrote:CBS 5 Poll: Romney Gains 8 Points On Faltering Obama In California
http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2012/10/10/cbs-5-poll-romney-gains-8-points-on-faltering-obama-in-california/
This helps to explain why Barry had to fly out there last week.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Oct 11, 2012 1:43pm
Mark it down....When Romney wins the election there is going to be MASSIVE whining over voter fraud....but but but the polls said Obama was a done deal so the Repubs had to steal it.
Most, if not all polls, are oversampling Dems, significantly in many cases. And everyone knows it. But I suppose using 2008 results is plausible denialbility, and since they are all doing it no one risks getting knocked for quality or accused of manipulating. I think the former is what is really happening. I think actual turnout is incredibly difficult to get a handle on for this race and so defaulting to the 2008 model is something they can defend.
Most, if not all polls, are oversampling Dems, significantly in many cases. And everyone knows it. But I suppose using 2008 results is plausible denialbility, and since they are all doing it no one risks getting knocked for quality or accused of manipulating. I think the former is what is really happening. I think actual turnout is incredibly difficult to get a handle on for this race and so defaulting to the 2008 model is something they can defend.

Ty Webb
Posts: 2,798
Oct 11, 2012 2:11pm
1.You seem awful sure of yourselfgut;1292742 wrote:Mark it down...1.When Romney wins the election there is going to be 2. MASSIVE whining over voter fraud....but but but the polls said Obama was a done deal so the Repubs had to steal it.
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2.Kinda like in 2008 when you got your asses kicked

FatHobbit
Posts: 8,651
Oct 11, 2012 2:29pm
pot, meet kettleTy Webb;1292765 wrote:1.You seem awful sure of yourself
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superman
Posts: 3,582
Oct 11, 2012 2:32pm
Serious question. Are you nine years old?Ty Webb;1292765 wrote:
2.Kinda like in 2008 when you got your asses kicked

Ty Webb
Posts: 2,798
Oct 11, 2012 2:36pm
I'm fully aware of the fact Mitt Romney may win...I've prepared myself for itFatHobbit;1292794 wrote:pot, meet kettle
Some of you have not prepared yourselves for the fact President Obama may win

Ty Webb
Posts: 2,798
Oct 11, 2012 2:37pm
Serious answer...I act like it sometimessuperman;1292796 wrote:Serious question. Are you nine years old?
Serious Answer 2-Did you pay attention to any Republicans on the huddle in the days after the 2008 election when everyone of them said Acorn stole the election for President Obama?

bigdaddy2003
Posts: 7,384
Oct 11, 2012 2:40pm
I'm pretty sure everyone on this board knows there is a possibility Obama will be re-elected. With that being said I will add to gut's last post by saying I wonder how long it will take someone on MSNBC to throw the race card on the table if Obama loses.

Ty Webb
Posts: 2,798
Oct 11, 2012 2:42pm
On the flipside...how long will it take for someone to cry voter fraud in Obama wins?bigdaddy2003;1292818 wrote:I'm pretty sure everyone on this board knows there is a possibility Obama will be re-elected. With that being said I will add to gut's last post by saying I wonder how long it will take someone on MSNBC to throw the race card on the table if Obama loses.

like_that
Posts: 26,625
Oct 11, 2012 2:55pm
Comments like this are just completely pathetic and what's wrong with this country. One of the main reasons I hate discussing politics. Who exactly got their ass kicked again? Obama is serving EVERYONE as this nation's president, not just the democrats. It's people like you who would probably root for a particular president to fail just because he isn't democrat (and I am well aware idiots do this as republicans too). Just simply pathetic. Get a life.Ty Webb;1292765 wrote:1.You seem awful sure of yourself
2.Kinda like in 2008 when you got your asses kicked

Ty Webb
Posts: 2,798
Oct 11, 2012 3:01pm
TOTAL BULLSHIT!!like_that;1292831 wrote:Comments like this are just completely pathetic and what's wrong with this country. One of the main reasons I hate discussing politics. Who exactly got their ass kicked again? Obama is serving EVERYONE as this nation's president, not just the democrats. It's people like you who would probably root for a particular president to fail just because he isn't democrat (and I am well aware idiots do this as republicans too). Just simply pathetic. Get a life.
50 percent of Republicans wanted the man to fail from the get-go. Look at several posters,and hell the Congressional Republicans had a meeting the day he came into office and said."we're going to do everything we can to impede him"
If Mitt Romney would happen to win,I'll support him because I'm a decent human being and I love my country. I won't have to like everything he'll do,but I'll hope he does well.
I can't say the same for some Republican posters here

like_that
Posts: 26,625
Oct 11, 2012 3:18pm
Yup, the whole point of my post went over your head. It's useless even trying to explain it to you.Ty Webb;1292835 wrote:TOTAL BULLSHIT!!
50 percent of Republicans wanted the man to fail from the get-go. Look at several posters,and hell the Congressional Republicans had a meeting the day he came into office and said."we're going to do everything we can to impede him"
If Mitt Romney would happen to win,I'll support him because I'm a decent human being and I love my country. I won't have to like everything he'll do,but I'll hope he does well.
I can't say the same for some Republican posters here

FatHobbit
Posts: 8,651
Oct 11, 2012 3:26pm
like_that;1292831 wrote:(and I am well aware idiots do this as republicans too)
lolTy Webb;1292835 wrote:TOTAL BULLSHIT!!
50 percent of Republicans wanted the man to fail from the get-go. Look at several posters,and hell the Congressional Republicans had a meeting the day he came into office and said."we're going to do everything we can to impede him"
If Mitt Romney would happen to win,I'll support him because I'm a decent human being and I love my country. I won't have to like everything he'll do,but I'll hope he does well.
I can't say the same for some Republican posters here
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Oct 11, 2012 6:07pm
I actually had Obama pegged as a future POTUS long before 2008. That election was never in doubt. But now that he has an abysmal track record for the world to see, running on charisma isn't enough. In fact, he's given-up on that approach and pretty much sold out to the blame, lie and demonize strategy.Ty Webb;1292765 wrote:1.You seem awful sure of yourself
2.Kinda like in 2008 when you got your asses kicked
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Oct 11, 2012 6:09pm
Ty Webb;1292835 wrote:TOTAL BULL****!!
50 percent of Republicans wanted the man to fail from the get-go. Look at several posters,and hell the Congressional Republicans had a meeting the day he came into office and said."we're going to do everything we can to impede him"
If Mitt Romney would happen to win,I'll support him because I'm a decent human being and I love my country. I won't have to like everything he'll do,but I'll hope he does well.
I can't say the same for some Republican posters here
You were corrected once before about the "#1 priority is preventing Obama's re-election". That was late Oct 2010. And I can only speak for myself, but I gave Obama's policies plenty of time to fail. Nobody wanted or wished for what we've had the last 4 years. Just because that's how you view life and what you will do if Romney is elected doesn't mean everyone plays the sour grape fiddle.

like_that
Posts: 26,625
Oct 11, 2012 6:52pm
+1 McCain didn't stand a chance after 8 years of Bush.gut;1292964 wrote:I actually had Obama pegged as a future POTUS long before 2008. That election was never in doubt. But now that he has an abysmal track record for the world to see, running on charisma isn't enough. In fact, he's given-up on that approach and pretty much sold out to the blame, lie and demonize strategy.
+1 again. Why anyone would root for a president to fail and as a result the country getting weaker is beyond me. I wasn't happy when Obama won, but I sure as hell hoped he would turn the economy around. If he did a great job I would have voted for him, but he simply has not done a thing that warrants my vote.gut;1292967 wrote:You were corrected once before about the "#1 priority is preventing Obama's re-election". That was late Oct 2010. And I can only speak for myself, but I gave Obama's policies plenty of time to fail. Nobody wanted or wished for what we've had the last 4 years. Just because that's how you view life and what you will do if Romney is elected doesn't mean everyone plays the sour grape fiddle.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Oct 11, 2012 7:16pm
I wasn't at all depressed. I liked the guy, but I could not in good conscience vote for such a complete economic dumbo. I hoped I would be wrong. Sadly I was not.like_that;1292992 wrote: I wasn't happy when Obama won, but I sure as hell hoped he would turn the economy around. If he did a great job I would have voted for him, but he simply has not done a thing that warrants my vote.

TedSheckler
Posts: 3,974
Oct 11, 2012 7:45pm
New poll. Obama only has 47% of the Jewish vote. Compared to 78% last time.
http://www.algemeiner.com/2012/10/11/new-poll-obama-attracts-only-47-of-likely-jewish-voters/
http://www.algemeiner.com/2012/10/11/new-poll-obama-attracts-only-47-of-likely-jewish-voters/