Archive Cleveland Cavaliers 2012-13

ricola

Posts: 855

Oct 4, 2012 10:35am

Now that the Indians' baseball season has (mercifully) come to an end, and the Browns are already out of any playoff consideration (as if there was ever a possibility) we might as well turn some of out attention to the Cavs. Can they have the most successful season of the 3 Cleveland teams? It certainly wouldn't take much to accomplish that. On the other hand, they are nationally regarded as one of the bottom 3 teams in the league at this point; Waiters has been less than underwhelming (can't believe we spent a 4 pick on him...), and vets Parker and Jamison are both gone (not that they would have carried us too far anyways). Do we have any chance of making the playoffs, or at least pleasantly suprising many by being more than just competetive?

Commander of Awesome

Posts: 23,151

Oct 4, 2012 11:02am

We have a "shot" I guess depending on TT, health of Varejao, and how Waiters performs. I don't see it happening barring a trade though.

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gport_tennis

Posts: 1,796

Oct 4, 2012 11:48am

I am stoked for the cavs season. Excited to see what waiters brings to the table. Excited to see kyrie at full strength with a year under his belt. I don't expect a ton of wins, we will be slightly under 500. Not a bottom 3 team though

SportsAndLady

Posts: 35,632

Oct 4, 2012 12:02pm

The Cavs season thread will not be spelled incorrectly..fix it or I will start a better one!

Go cavs

hangonsloopy

Posts: 1,291

Oct 4, 2012 12:03pm

I'm excited for the season. I don't expect a ton of winning but I'm anxious to see everyone develop. Hopefully the rooks meet expectations and kyrie and tt take a step forward. I'm also hoping we can trade Andy for a decent pick or starting SF.

Crimson streak

Posts: 9,002

Oct 4, 2012 12:07pm

I'm excited to see what kyrie can do. Most of the players/people around team USA wanted kyrie on the Olympic team after the scrimmages. Waiters is going to be the key this year. Hopefully he becomes a stud.

ricola

Posts: 855

Oct 4, 2012 12:39pm

SportsAndLady;1287078 wrote:The Cavs season thread will not be spelled incorrectly..fix it or I will start a better one!

Go cavs

done.
sorry about that--didn't even notice it. Thanks for pointing it out

SportsAndLady

Posts: 35,632

Oct 4, 2012 1:03pm

ricola;1287111 wrote:done.
sorry about that--didn't even notice it. Thanks for pointing it out

Just don't let it happen again

ricola

Posts: 855

Oct 4, 2012 3:43pm

will get my spell check up and running

like_that

Posts: 26,625

Oct 4, 2012 3:44pm

I think the Cavs are a year away from the playoffs, I am excited to see Irving in his 2nd year though.

How long will it take before Jordo spews his typical passive agressive bullshit?

Commander of Awesome

Posts: 23,151

Oct 4, 2012 3:45pm

like_that;1287256 wrote:I think the Cavs are a year away from the playoffs, I am excited to see Irving in his 2nd year though.

How long will it take before Jordo spews his typical passive agressive bullshit?

First game.

like_that

Posts: 26,625

Oct 4, 2012 3:47pm

Commander of Awesome;1287257 wrote:First game.

Then that's when lil guy F4F will poke in his thread too.

sleeper

Posts: 27,879

Oct 4, 2012 3:47pm

Cavs won't be good this year. Maybe in a few years, but not this year.

wes_mantooth

Posts: 17,977

Oct 4, 2012 4:08pm

sleeper;1287260 wrote:Cavs won't be good this year. Maybe in a few years, but not this year.

Nice thing is....you don't have to be good to get in the nba playoffs

Fly4Fun

Posts: 7,730

Oct 4, 2012 4:15pm

wes_mantooth;1287272 wrote:Nice thing is....you don't have to be good to get in the nba playoffs

You don't have to be good, but generally .500 is required (few exceptions now and then). Are the Cavs a .500 team? I hope so. Kyrie should be fun to watch. I don't know much about Waiters but as mentioned, it doesn't sound too great so far.

I'm really interested to see how Varejao will change his play style in response to the new rule (assuming they stand).

sleeper

Posts: 27,879

Oct 4, 2012 4:18pm

wes_mantooth;1287272 wrote:Nice thing is....you don't have to be good to get in the nba playoffs

I'd rather be terrible next year and get another stud young player to play alongside the core we are building. We still need a decent SF in order to be competitive.

ohiobucks1

Posts: 4,915

Oct 4, 2012 5:06pm

Agreed.

Another top 5 pick and this team will be DIRTY

Pick6

Posts: 14,946

Oct 4, 2012 5:46pm

sleeper;1287283 wrote:I'd rather be terrible next year and get another stud young player to play alongside the core we are building. We still need a decent SF in order to be competitive.

Im pretty sure we have 6 first rounders in the next 3 years, even if we arent completely shitty, we still have some ammo to move up or trade. I'd really like us to make a move in FA, though I dont think anyone this year looks particularly interesting.

Ill be OK with us being bad or around .500. I see us as close to a .500 team barring injuries.

Commander of Awesome

Posts: 23,151

Oct 4, 2012 5:48pm

Thing about the NBA is that multiple 1st round selections aren't valuable like they are in the NFL. If its not a top 3~5 pick, you're missing out on a top talent. Bulls weren't going to trade the #1 pick to any team for a draft pick. Could have been #2 and #10, they're taking Rose.

Pick6

Posts: 14,946

Oct 4, 2012 5:54pm

Commander of Awesome;1287335 wrote:Thing about the NBA is that multiple 1st round selections aren't valuable like they are in the NFL. If its not a top 3~5 pick, you're missing out on a top talent. Bulls weren't going to trade the #1 pick to any team for a draft pick. Could have been #2 and #10, they're taking Rose.

Thats true, but depending on the draft you can still find some solid prospects in the teens, like Houston did this year.

I think CJ Miles is going to fit in well at SF. Hopefully I never see Casspi play a meaningful minute for the Cavs agian. I liked him coming from Sacramento, but he stunk it up here.

Commander of Awesome

Posts: 23,151

Oct 4, 2012 5:57pm

Pick6;1287340 wrote:Thats true, but depending on the draft you can still find some solid prospects in the teens, like Houston did this year.

I think CJ Miles is going to fit in well at SF. Hopefully I never see Casspi play a meaningful minute for the Cavs agian. I liked him coming from Sacramento, but he stunk it up here.

We'll see how that works out for Houston. I'm less than optimistic.

SportsAndLady

Posts: 35,632

Oct 4, 2012 8:20pm

sleeper;1287283 wrote:I'd rather be terrible next year and get another stud young player to play alongside the core we are building. We still need a decent SF in order to be competitive.

How dare you want the team to be bad this year!!!!

/BR'd

lhslep134

Posts: 9,774

Oct 4, 2012 8:53pm

SportsAndLady;1287386 wrote:How dare you want the team to be bad this year!!!!

/BR'd

I'm trying to think of a best case scenario and I think it boils down to this:

KI, DW, TT, and TZ show great potential (we obviously know about KI). Growing pains for sure, but hopefully flashes. We ship Varejao out and acquire a draft pick. Finish with a record of around 30-52 with wins over the Heat, Lakers, and Celtics just for sh*ts and giggles. Get a top 10 pick, and hopefully a top 20 pick with the Varejao trade.

Mulva

Posts: 13,650

Oct 4, 2012 11:01pm

Now that the offseason dust has all settled, I could see anything from 10th (unlikely) to 13th in the East. We'll finish ahead of Charlotte. I hope we finish ahead of Orlando, that roster looks like a disaster.

I think we'll be right there with Detroit and possibly Toronto (depends on if Jonas V is legit and NBA-ready). I expect maybe 48-52 losses, but maybe Kyrie will be able to put the team on his back and elevate that a little.

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friendfromlowry

Posts: 6,239

Oct 5, 2012 4:30am

It'll be interesting to see how Waiters turns out, if he turns it around from Summer. Gotta' imagine he's the top variable for predicting their success this season. That and the health of Irving and Varejao (if he remains on the team).