
Fly4Fun
Posts: 7,730
Dec 6, 2012 7:48am
I'm not knocking Kobe for his 30k points mark he reached... but an ESPN article tries to do a little spinning that I found amusing:
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8718559/kobe-bryant-los-angeles-lakers-becomes-youngest-player-nba-history-score-30000-career-points
If there were 5 to do it, and you were the 5th "Fastest" to do it, some may call that being the slowest, not the 5th fastest.
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8718559/kobe-bryant-los-angeles-lakers-becomes-youngest-player-nba-history-score-30000-career-points
Bryant joins Chamberlain (31,419 points),Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (38,387), Karl Malone(36,928) and Michael Jordan (32,292) as the only five players in NBA history to reach the 30,000-point plateau.
Bryant was the fifth-fastest player -- in terms of games played -- to reach the milestone, needing 1,179. Chamberlain was the fastest at 941 games, followed by Jordan (960), Abdul-Jabbar (1,101) and Malone (1,152).
If there were 5 to do it, and you were the 5th "Fastest" to do it, some may call that being the slowest, not the 5th fastest.

Rotinaj
Posts: 7,699
Dec 6, 2012 8:02am
I dont see it as spinning, i see it as 30,000 points is an INCREDIBLE feat and saying slowest sounds like it might downgrade the achievement some. Or, he said exactly what he wanted too and didnt sit there thinking about how some people will interpret it.

Fly4Fun
Posts: 7,730
Dec 6, 2012 8:14am
I agree that 30k points is incredible. I don't mean to diminish that. I just found it humorous and you can tell the writer saw some contradiction as the article was written in a way where it threw in some information (a few paragraphs) between the statements to try to obscure the wording.Rotinaj;1337269 wrote:I dont see it as spinning, i see it as 30,000 points is an INCREDIBLE feat and saying slowest sounds like it might downgrade the achievement some. Or, he said exactly what he wanted too and didnt sit there thinking about how some people will interpret it.
Essentially they articles started off with a little blurb about the game, then it goes into the statistics and heralding that he is the youngest (Age wise) to do it. Then it has a few quotes from different people. Then it jumps back into the statistics to mention that he was the 5th fastest to do it. Then quotes again.
It looks like they intentionally tried to separate those two pieces of information to hide the fact that being 5th "Fastest" means actually slowest. Just because someone is amazing doesn't mean that they also can't be last.
In track and field in the final heat, these are all incredibly fast human beings... the person who comes in 8th isn't usually referred to as the 8th fastest person in the finals, but he's last.
I don't think it was a big deal, I found it amusing though.

sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Dec 6, 2012 10:32am
Kobe is a top 10 all-time player but he'll never be better than Shaq.

Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Dec 6, 2012 12:17pm
sleeper;1337339 wrote:Kobe is a top 10 all-time player but he'll never be better than Shaq.
I'd say that could be nicely debated....but I don't care to be a part of it. Without delving in....they are pretty close.

Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Dec 6, 2012 2:37pm


Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Dec 6, 2012 5:00pm
Commander of Awesome;1337462 wrote:
You trying to show that he was a douche in high school as well? If so...likely right.
Other than the fact that he is way better in the NBA than I anticipated...I just can't stand how he goes about his stuff.

Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Dec 6, 2012 5:09pm
Wasn't trying to show anything. I just laughed, bc he looks high as hell.

Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Dec 6, 2012 5:49pm
Commander of Awesome;1337560 wrote:Wasn't trying to show anything. I just laughed, bc he looks high as hell.
He certainly has beautiful eyes.
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gport_tennis
Posts: 1,796
Dec 6, 2012 9:10pm
man the lockout kinda spoled me last year. there was always 4-5 games a night it seemed like. now there are nights with like 1-2 games.
NEED MOAR!!!
NEED MOAR!!!

Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Dec 6, 2012 9:21pm
gport_tennis;1337688 wrote:man the lockout kinda spoled me last year. there was always 4-5 games a night it seemed like. now there are nights with like 1-2 games.
NEED MOAR!!!
I was more interested in the NBA more last year than ever.....until the ASB. I lost interest the last half until about the 2nd round of the playoffs.

wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Dec 6, 2012 10:13pm
Knicks up 10 going into the 4th in Miami, without Melo.

Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Dec 6, 2012 10:31pm
Steve fuckin' Novak.

wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Dec 6, 2012 10:34pm
Knicks are running the Heat out of the gym.

Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Dec 6, 2012 10:36pm
Pick6;1337735 wrote:Steve fuckin' Novak.
That guy can get as hot as anyone.

robj55
Posts: 9,511
Dec 6, 2012 10:36pm
And yet the Knicks won't make it out of the second round

wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Dec 6, 2012 10:39pm
And your point is?robj55;1337739 wrote:And yet the Knicks won't make it out of the second round

Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Dec 6, 2012 10:39pm
Little premature dont ya think? They are way deeper than usual this year.robj55;1337739 wrote:And yet the Knicks won't make it out of the second round

robj55
Posts: 9,511
Dec 6, 2012 10:43pm
Same Knicks team, live and die by the 3.Pick6;1337744 wrote:Little premature dont ya think? They are way deeper than usual this year.

Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Dec 6, 2012 10:43pm
And their coach is a student/former player of Bobby Knight. He has them and will continue to have them playing hard on both ends...especially in crunch time and playoffs.

robj55
Posts: 9,511
Dec 6, 2012 10:44pm
Just my opinion of course.

robj55
Posts: 9,511
Dec 6, 2012 10:45pm
None, what's yours?wildcats20;1337742 wrote:And your point is?

wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Dec 6, 2012 10:47pm
That the Knicks were running the Heat out of the gym.robj55;1337751 wrote:None, what's yours?

robj55
Posts: 9,511
Dec 6, 2012 10:50pm
Yes they did, that was impressive.wildcats20;1337753 wrote:That the Knicks were running the Heat out of the gym.

Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Dec 6, 2012 10:56pm
Without Melo, Amare, and Shumpertwildcats20;1337753 wrote:That the Knicks were running the Heat out of the gym.