BearBoy69;1283074 wrote:Well Blake is better all-around as a player. KD puts up HUGE points but Blake Griffin does is at both ends

Seriously? Griffin is raw.. he dunks. That's pretty much it. Good rebounder, decent play defense.

BearBoy69;1283061 wrote: Most Surprising team- Cleveland Cavs (Have the potential to be amazing considering that they have great young talent and a phenomenal past 2 years in the draft)

Reps for joke of the day.

mostly likely it'll be KD, but i already dug my hole, so i might as well stick with Blake Griffin

Mulva;1283088 wrote:Reps for joke of the day.

They could pull off one of the last seeds in the playoffs. Kyrie will be dishing out assists and putting up between 15-20 a game, Andy will play mean D with Tristan Thompson and pull down Rebounds with Tyler Zellar (Z.0), and we have a potentially good scorer in Dion Waiters.

Trueblue23;1283087 wrote:Seriously? Griffin is raw.. he dunks. That's pretty much it. Good rebounder, decent play defense.

If there was a worst defense team, Blake would be on it.

Commander of Awesome;1283121 wrote:If there was a worst defense team, Blake would be on it.

This.

1st Team

Paul
Wade
James
Durant
Mullens

Definitely the new Dirk...with a 50 inch vertical

BearBoy69;1283074 wrote:Well Blake is better all-around as a player. KD puts up HUGE points but Blake Griffin does is at both ends

Fail.

Rookie of the Year = Anthony Davis
Defensive Player of the Year = Lebron James
MVP = Lebron James
Most surprising team = Washington Wizards
Most disappointing team = Brooklyn Nets
All-NBA First Team
= CP3
= Kobe
= Lebron
= Durant
= Love
Eastern Conference Champion = Heat
Western Conference Champion = Lakers
NBA Champion = Heat

BearBoy69;1283099 wrote:They could pull off one of the last seeds in the playoffs. Kyrie will be dishing out assists and putting up between 15-20 a game, Andy will play mean D with Tristan Thompson and pull down Rebounds with Tyler Zellar (Z.0), and we have a potentially good scorer in Dion Waiters.

You could make a 5 player list of 90% of the teams in the league and what those players are going to do well this year and it would look more impressive than that one.

I could be wrong, but I personally think the Cavs have butchered just about everything since taking Kyrie. I don't see them going anywhere anytime soon, which is a shame because he's a stud.

BearBoy69;1283061 wrote:ROY- Anthony Davis (big surprise seeing as he was on the Olympic team)
DPOY- Dwight Howard (Going to be a stud in LA, and will be relied upon less for scoring and more for D)
MVP- Lebron James (SURPRISE)
Most Surprising team- Cleveland Cavs (Have the potential to be amazing considering that they have great young talent and a phenomenal past 2 years in the draft)
Most Disappointing- NY Knicks and Brooklyn Nets
Eastern Conference Champs- Heat
Western Conference Champs- Lakers
All NBA 1st Team-
G- Chris Paul
G- Dwayne Wade
F- Lebron James
F- Blake Griffin
C- Dwight Howard (Yes only three teams represented in the 1st-team)

Basketball is possibly the most predictable professional sport

BearBoy69;1283074 wrote:Well Blake is better all-around as a player. KD puts up HUGE points but Blake Griffin does is at both ends

BearBoy69;1283092 wrote:mostly likely it'll be KD, but i already dug my hole, so i might as well stick with Blake Griffin

I just wanted multi quote all of these just to give it one big LOL.

Haha, Rasheed Wallace is coming out of retirement to play for the Knicks...

Mulva;1283302 wrote: I could be wrong, but I personally think the Cavs have butchered just about everything since taking Kyrie. I don't see them going anywhere anytime soon, which is a shame because he's a stud.

Curious, what have they botched? I assume you're talking draft?

Commander of Awesome;1283396 wrote:Curious, what have they botched? I assume you're talking draft?

Absolutely hated the TT and Waiters picks. Both awful, awful selections in my opinion (for top 5 picks).

I liked the CJ Miles and Jon Leuer signings, but they're both role players. You get your studs through the draft, and I think the Cavs came out horribly. I don't have a huge problem with Zeller as a player - I think he'll be another solid role player - but I do think he has a pretty low ceiling and they gave up more than they should have to get him.

Again, just my opinion. I've been wrong before. But to say they have the potential to be "amazing" is lol-worthy regardless, especially when you back it up with the reasoning that they could fight for a bottom playoff-seed in the east.

ESPN has them 28th in their preseason power rankings FWIW. I would guess the ranking is mainly because they're young, but I'd be surprised if this team won more than 35 games and I'm expecting more like 30.

BearBoy69;1283099 wrote:They could pull off one of the last seeds in the playoffs. Kyrie will be dishing out assists and putting up between 15-20 a game, Andy will play mean D with Tristan Thompson and pull down Rebounds with Tyler Zellar (Z.0), and we have a potentially good scorer in Dion Waiters.

IF they pull off one of the last seeds in the playoffs that just means getting super-stomped by Chicago or Miami. And that's a big 'IF' to begin with. Kyrie is often hurt, so is Varejao. We'll see what Zellar and Waiters can provide but they're going to have to be impressive.

Sleeper - You said something about the Wizards being the most surprising team. Why?

Rookie of the Year = Harrison Barnes
Defensive Player of the Year = Rajon Rondo
MVP = Kevin Durant
Most surprising teams = Golden State Warriors & Denver Nuggets
Most disappointing team = Indiana Pacers
All-NBA First Team
= Rondo
= Westbrook
= Lebron
= Durant
= Howard
Eastern Conference Champion = Heat
Western Conference Champion = Thunder
NBA Champion = Thunder

Great news on the flopping.

Fly4Fun;1283366 wrote:Haha, Rasheed Wallace is coming out of retirement to play for the Knicks...

Terrible, terrible signing. Sheed has literally nothing to offer a team. At least Ray Allen's old ass can shoot

Trueblue23;1283710 wrote:Terrible, terrible signing. Sheed has literally nothing to offer a team. At least Ray Allen's old ass can shoot

And he's not an ass

Mulva;1283460 wrote:Absolutely hated the TT and Waiters picks. Both awful, awful selections in my opinion (for top 5 picks).

I liked the CJ Miles and Jon Leuer signings, but they're both role players. You get your studs through the draft, and I think the Cavs came out horribly. I don't have a huge problem with Zeller as a player - I think he'll be another solid role player - but I do think he has a pretty low ceiling and they gave up more than they should have to get him.

Again, just my opinion. I've been wrong before. But to say they have the potential to be "amazing" is lol-worthy regardless, especially when you back it up with the reasoning that they could fight for a bottom playoff-seed in the east.

ESPN has them 28th in their preseason power rankings FWIW. I would guess the ranking is mainly because they're young, but I'd be surprised if this team won more than 35 games and I'm expecting more like 30.

I'm undecided on the TT or the Waiters pick, I'm just not sure who I would have taken instead of them. I literally never saw Waiters play in college to my knowledge, and he looked mediocre in preseason. Time will tell on him. Who would you have taken instead?

Yea, Sheed is pretty worthless. Throw him in with people like Melo, Amare.. should be fun to watch that blow up.

Commander of Awesome;1283742 wrote:I'm undecided on the TT or the Waiters pick, I'm just not sure who I would have taken instead of them. I literally never saw Waiters play in college to my knowledge, and he looked mediocre in preseason. Time will tell on him. Who would you have taken instead?

Lamb would have been my top choice in the draft (for the Cavs situation).

Personally I think the Cavs are making the right moves. Or I could be a Cleveland basketball idiot like all Browns fans have no clue about football at all.

Mulva;1283749 wrote:Lamb would have been my top choice in the draft (for the Cavs situation).

Who over TT and Zeller?

BearBoy69;1284160 wrote:Personally I think the Cavs are making the right moves. Or I could be a Cleveland basketball idiot like all Browns fans have no clue about football at all.

Probably the case.