Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Sep 24, 2012 11:48pm
It's sports related and a decent read. You can handle it.Ironman92;1279742 wrote:wtfl;dr
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sportchampps
Posts: 7,361
Sep 24, 2012 11:49pm
Offensive pass interference ref blew it... It cost a team a game... Two bad calls in the end... The refs literally gave this game to Seattle. That was highway robbery
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Sep 24, 2012 11:57pm
Automatik;1279790 wrote:It's sports related and a decent read. You can handle it.
Ain't happening.
Raw Dawgin' it
Posts: 11,466
Sep 25, 2012 7:07am
After this game, the ravens/pats game, and the SF/Minn game - no reason the real refs shouldn't be signed by the time Baltimore and Cleveland kick off.
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Gblock
Sep 25, 2012 7:22am
for those who continue to say the rate of calls is the same, half of the calls i saw last night were away from the play and had no effect on the outcome.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Sep 25, 2012 8:16am
So?Gblock;1279895 wrote:for those who continue to say the rate of calls is the same, half of the calls i saw last night were away from the play and had no effect on the outcome.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Sep 25, 2012 8:16am
So the 8 sacks the Packers gave up had nothing to do with it?sportchampps;1279792 wrote:Offensive pass interference ref blew it... It cost a team a game... Two bad calls in the end... The refs literally gave this game to Seattle. That was highway robbery
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Gblock
Sep 25, 2012 8:19am
those type of plays usually result in no callsWebFire;1279921 wrote:So?
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Sep 25, 2012 8:21am
Depends on the penalty, but I don't entirely agree with this statement.Gblock;1279924 wrote:those type of plays usually result in no calls
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Gblock
Sep 25, 2012 8:57am
did you watch the whole game?WebFire;1279928 wrote:Depends on the penalty, but I don't entirely agree with this statement.
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Sonofanump
Sep 25, 2012 9:05am
@Web & Gblock. Not sure which direction you guys are going with this, but I'll crime in. Safety or personal fouls alway should be called. I have no idea why defensive holding was called on the 7 yard hook when the ball was already being thrown 30 yards downfield.
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Gblock
Sep 25, 2012 9:19am
the direction im going is that the refs while they may be nice guys and are trying their best are in over their heads. they are providing substandard officiating. Not that I know many who defend them, but the ones that are use the frequency of calls to say that the game is essentially being reffed about the same. I beg to differ. I watched almost all of the games, and half of the times on the replay the announcers as well as everyone in my living room would say where was the holding/interference and that is even if the refs themselves agree with the call. in the baltimore game one ref calls offensive interference on torrey smith td catch and the other ref comes in and says no it wasnt interference and gave the touchdown.
besides that there is no rhythm to the games and they take forever.
besides that there is no rhythm to the games and they take forever.
IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
Sep 25, 2012 9:52am
From Peter King again:
Isn't that the truth, can you imagine what a nightmare that would be for the league? Hadn't thought about that.RT @SatansLollipop: After last night, only argument real refs need to make to Goodell is, "Do you want the Super Bowl to look like this?"
Cat Food Flambe'
Posts: 1,230
Sep 25, 2012 10:05am
I'll chime in and state that I think many of the player are getting more aggressive in seeing what they can get away with, particularly out on the pass routes. There seems to be a lot more bumping and grabbing downfield.Gblock;1279895 wrote:for those who continue to say the rate of calls is the same, half of the calls i saw last night were away from the play and had no effect on the outcome.
The calls still suck though - it's almost as if after every play you have stop and ask "OK, how are they gonna decide what to call on THIS play"?
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Sonofanump
Sep 25, 2012 10:09am
Good post.Gblock;1279964 wrote:the direction im going is that the refs while they may be nice guys and are trying their best are in over their heads. they are providing substandard officiating. Not that I know many who defend them, but the ones that are use the frequency of calls to say that the game is essentially being reffed about the same. I beg to differ. I watched almost all of the games, and half of the times on the replay the announcers as well as everyone in my living room would say where was the holding/interference and that is even if the refs themselves agree with the call. in the baltimore game one ref calls offensive interference on torrey smith td catch and the other ref comes in and says no it wasnt interference and gave the touchdown.
besides that there is no rhythm to the games and they take forever.
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Sep 25, 2012 10:10am
My issue is that we were being sold that one of the major problems is that the players are larger and the game far faster than the replacements are used to. While true, the problem at the end of last night's game was one of simple incomptence. The missed calls would be exactly the same at any level of ball, and the players were basically stationary. The "too big too fast" excuse doesn't wash.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Sep 25, 2012 10:10am
I actually enjoy the games better with the replacement refs. They seem to let the players play a little bit rather than calling every ticky tack penalty.
It seems the players and the coaches are the ones disrespecting the game and making it worse than the actual referees. A $1,000,000 fine for bitching against the refs should do the trick.
It seems the players and the coaches are the ones disrespecting the game and making it worse than the actual referees. A $1,000,000 fine for bitching against the refs should do the trick.
IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
Sep 25, 2012 10:17am
Are you kidding?They seem to let the players play a little bit rather than calling every ticky tack penalty.
24 penalties for 245 yards last night combine.
That is what you consider "letting them play"?
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Gblock
Sep 25, 2012 10:32am
after watching the last play in slow motion again i am flabbergasted that offensive pass interference wasnt called. he shoved him completely to the ground.
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Sep 25, 2012 10:33am
If anything, that miss is actually worse than the possession call.Gblock;1280012 wrote:after watching the last play in slow motion again i am flabbergasted that offensive pass interference wasnt called. he shoved him completely to the ground.
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Gblock
Sep 25, 2012 10:35am
xactlyqueencitybuckeye;1280014 wrote:If anything, that miss is actually worse than the possession call.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Sep 25, 2012 10:51am
We'd all be good refs, wouldn't we?Gblock;1280012 wrote:slow motion
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Sep 25, 2012 10:52am
I actually agree with this.sleeper;1279985 wrote: It seems the players and the coaches are the ones disrespecting the game and making it worse than the actual referees..
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Gblock
Sep 25, 2012 11:00am
I actually think i could...but im not sure what my competence has to do with theirs. I didnt get hired by the nfl. I m not a doctor but if my hand gets cut off and sewn on backwards should i not complain because i dont know how to do surgery?WebFire;1280044 wrote:We'd all be good refs, wouldn't we?
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Sep 25, 2012 11:01am
Well I don't see the refs out there holding players and hitting players at the whistle.IggyPride00;1279991 wrote:Are you kidding?
24 penalties for 245 yards last night combine.
That is what you consider "letting them play"?