Ty Webb
Posts: 2,798
Aug 30, 2012 3:43pm
Keep believing that gut......
Of course Romney was going to make it close at some point....the SC pretty much said he can have as much dirty money as he wants/needs
Of course Romney was going to make it close at some point....the SC pretty much said he can have as much dirty money as he wants/needs
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Aug 30, 2012 3:45pm
LOL, you were so confident 2 months ago. You kept posting all those polls that showed Romney <40% and I kept telling you as soon as the party unified the gap would disappear. Keep clinging to your preciously inaccurate polls. Perhaps in December you'll be able to find one that tells you Obama didn't lose.Ty Webb;1258058 wrote:Keep believing that gut......
Of course Romney was going to make it close at some point....the SC pretty much said he can have as much dirty money as he wants/needs
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Aug 30, 2012 3:48pm
And the economy. And the jobs record. And the deficits.QuakerOats;1258055 wrote:These guys are always right -
http://www.colorado.edu/news/releases/2012/08/22/analysis-election-factors-points-romney-win-university-colorado-study-says
obama will get buried based on his current polling for an incumbent.
The floodgates open when Obama has to step out from behind the teleprompter and attack ads and answer for his record.
Ty Webb
Posts: 2,798
Aug 30, 2012 3:48pm
You people need to get it through your heads.....unless something catostrophic happens between now and October the polls aren't going to change much.
This will be the first time in a very long time the debates really matter
This will be the first time in a very long time the debates really matter
Ty Webb
Posts: 2,798
Aug 30, 2012 3:52pm
I've got a buddy who works for the ORP and he said they have internal polling that is horrific for Romney in Ohio....he's talking like him being down 7-8 points
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Aug 30, 2012 3:54pm
You sure do seem to be going to a lot of effort to convince, primarily yourself it would appear, that Obama will win.
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jmog
Posts: 6,567
Aug 30, 2012 3:56pm
Since Obama spent more in the last election than anyone in history due to the same decision/laws should he and you liberals really be allowed to complain?Ty Webb;1258058 wrote:Keep believing that gut......
Of course Romney was going to make it close at some point....the SC pretty much said he can have as much dirty money as he wants/needs
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Aug 30, 2012 3:56pm
There is nothing that can save obama's sinking ship, Tyrone. It is over!
Ty Webb
Posts: 2,798
Aug 30, 2012 3:59pm
gut;1258079 wrote:You sure do seem to be going to a lot of effort to convince, primarily yourself it would appear, that Obama will win.[/QUOTE
How in the hell are you so sure Romney will win?
What proof do you have that says with 100% certainty that come January 2013 Mitt Romney will be taking the Oath of Office
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Aug 30, 2012 4:01pm
What president has been elected spending the most money? I forget.Ty Webb;1258058 wrote:the SC pretty much said he can have as much dirty money as he wants/needs
Ty Webb
Posts: 2,798
Aug 30, 2012 4:02pm
jmog;1258081 wrote:Since Obama spent more in the last election than anyone in history due to the same decision/laws should he and you liberals really be allowed to complain?[/QUOTE
'08 President Obama released where 100% of his money came from....why won't Mitt Romney do the same?
Ty Webb
Posts: 2,798
Aug 30, 2012 4:03pm
Again....he released where all of his money came from.....why won't Romney?queencitybuckeye;1258087 wrote:What president has been elected spending the most money? I forget.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Aug 30, 2012 4:03pm
I'm not sure Romney will win. I think it will be a disaster if he loses, but the fact is no POTUS has been re-elected with as miserable an economy as Obama. He's not going to be able to control the debate and message any more. The guy is going to need something more than excuses, and we've seen after 3.5 years he has no substance.
Literally it's Romney's election to lose. Obama's only chance is for Romney to stumble badly in the debates. Even then, he may still need to have Ryan stumble. It's just not likely to happen.
It's just been one set back after another for Obama. He's not raising the money he anticipated. Romney is raising more than anticipated. Jobs are going the wrong direction. And, of course, the infamous "you didn't build that" line. It's now a campaign that will appeal to the worst in people in order to win. Sharp contrast from "hope and change".
Literally it's Romney's election to lose. Obama's only chance is for Romney to stumble badly in the debates. Even then, he may still need to have Ryan stumble. It's just not likely to happen.
It's just been one set back after another for Obama. He's not raising the money he anticipated. Romney is raising more than anticipated. Jobs are going the wrong direction. And, of course, the infamous "you didn't build that" line. It's now a campaign that will appeal to the worst in people in order to win. Sharp contrast from "hope and change".
Ty Webb
Posts: 2,798
Aug 30, 2012 4:06pm
gut;1258092 wrote:I'm not sure Romney will win. I think it will be a disaster if he loses, but the fact is no POTUS has been re-elected with as miserable an economy as Obama. He's not going to be able to control the debate and message any more. The guy is going to need something more than excuses, and we've seen after 3.5 years he has no substance.
Literally it's Romney's election to lose. Obama's only chance is for Romney to stumble badly in the debates. Even then, he may still need to have Ryan stumble. It's just not likely to happen.
According to people much smarter than you or I on th subject......it's very likely to happen
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Aug 30, 2012 4:08pm
I don't think there's a question Obama is superior in debating....but his track record is a great, great equalizer.Ty Webb;1258094 wrote:According to people much smarter than you or I on th subject......it's very likely to happen
and Paul Ryan is going to absolutely destroy Biden in the debates.
Ty Webb
Posts: 2,798
Aug 30, 2012 4:12pm
If he isn't more truthful than his speech last night he won'tgut;1258095 wrote:I don't think there's a question Obama is superior in debating....but his track record is a great, great equalizer.
and Paul Ryan is going to absolutely destroy Biden in the debates.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Aug 30, 2012 4:23pm
Aha, another puppeter of the liberal media's morning line, sheesh.Ty Webb;1258100 wrote:If he isn't more truthful than his speech last night he won't
For your private consumption I offer this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hb4k97ARHpM
http://www2.tbo.com/news/politics/2012/aug/30/transcript-of-rep-paul-ryans-speech-at-rnc-ar-478270/
After your in depth review, come talk to us.
Ryan (and Rice) were brilliant, not only did they destroy obama (of course that is easy, just examine the horrific record), but they offered up the pathway to getting the country going again; it was a real confidence booster last night.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Aug 30, 2012 4:24pm
LMAO, as if those saying he lied or distorted facts aren't doing the same in many of their accusations. It will come down to who is more believable, and Ryan is both compelling AND convincing. Biden will be lucky if he doesn't get dropped from the ticket. He's a SERIOUS liability.Ty Webb;1258100 wrote:If he isn't more truthful than his speech last night he won't
There will be A LOT more lies and distortion from the Obama camp, because they can't win with the truth.
Devils Advocate
Posts: 4,539
Aug 30, 2012 4:25pm
Forget it Ty.... These smarter people have also demonstrated Global Warming.Ty Webb;1258094 wrote:According to people much smarter than you or I on th subject......it's very likely to happen
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Aug 30, 2012 4:27pm
Well, now that you mention it, didn't they abandon that shtick in favor of ""Climate Change"?Devils Advocate;1258112 wrote:Forget it Ty.... These smarter people have also demonstrated Global Warming.
Ty Webb
Posts: 2,798
Aug 30, 2012 4:31pm
QuakerOats;1258110 wrote:Aha, another puppeter of the liberal media's morning line, sheesh.
For your private consumption I offer this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hb4k97ARHpM
http://www2.tbo.com/news/politics/2012/aug/30/transcript-of-rep-paul-ryans-speech-at-rnc-ar-478270/
After your in depth review, come talk to us.
Ryan (and Rice) were brilliant, not only did they destroy obama (of course that is easy, just examine the horrific record), but they offered up the pathway to getting the country going again; it was a real confidence booster last night.
Ryan didn't offer up ONE idea of how to "fix" things....all he said was "we're going to fix America" . Nothing conconcrete on what they will do
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jmog
Posts: 6,567
Aug 30, 2012 4:54pm
Can you please point to what financial contribution laws Romney is not abiding by?Ty Webb;1258091 wrote:Again....he released where all of his money came from.....why won't Romney?
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Aug 30, 2012 5:25pm
You must not have yet read the transcript. After you do, please get back to the group.Ty Webb;1258115 wrote:Ryan didn't offer up ONE idea of how to "fix" things....all he said was "we're going to fix America" . Nothing conconcrete on what they will do
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Aug 30, 2012 5:27pm
obama has had 4 years to "fix" things; and as Ryan said, "he has done nothing"! Actually he has done something - he has made the problems worse. So, if you want to vote for 'worse', go ahead, at least you know you will get 'fail'.Ty Webb;1258115 wrote:Ryan didn't offer up ONE idea of how to "fix" things....all he said was "we're going to fix America" . Nothing conconcrete on what they will do
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Aug 30, 2012 6:40pm
It's really amazing to me that Obama's base - blacks, hispanics, women, young adults - are the hardest hit over the last 4 years and, in many cases, still waiting for the recovery. And these people are going to vote for 4 more years of the same?!?
The only logical explanation is that his supporters like being bukkaked with failure.
The only logical explanation is that his supporters like being bukkaked with failure.