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Aug 21, 2012 7:01 PM
An Atlanta <del></del>mother whose three sons were <del></del>murdered said the violence has got to stop.

Someone killed Kentavious Ballard Sunday. His two brothers were murdered in 2000 and 2001.

"He was just in the wrong place at the wrong time," said Janice Ballard-Dean

Ballard-Dean said that's been the case for three of her four children.
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/mother-pleads-end-violence-after-losing-3-sons/nRGMP/


Sounds like a pattern.
Aug 21, 2012 7:01pm
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Aug 21, 2012 7:10 PM
They were in the wrong place at the wrong time on purpose. Definitely a pattern.

And "Kentavious?" It's obvious she didn't love her son anyway if she gave him a name like that. Might as well name him Stealmylunchmoneyandpopacapinmyass.
Aug 21, 2012 7:10pm
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Aug 21, 2012 7:40 PM
O-Trap;1251646 wrote:
And "Kentavious?" It's obvious she didn't love her son anyway if she gave him a name like that.
I bet his nickname growing up was Kunta Kenta'vious.
Aug 21, 2012 7:40pm
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Aug 22, 2012 9:39 AM
It's easy to make a snap judgement here, but I'm not sure we have enough info. Maybe they are just poor and live in a bad neighborhood.
Aug 22, 2012 9:39am
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Aug 22, 2012 9:47 AM
FatHobbit;1251993 wrote:It's easy to make a snap judgement here, but I'm not sure we have enough info. Maybe they are just poor and live in a bad neighborhood.
Not difficult to avoid that kind of trouble, even in a bad neighborhood.

Poor has nothing to do with it.
Aug 22, 2012 9:47am
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Aug 22, 2012 10:09 AM
O-Trap;1251996 wrote:Not difficult to avoid that kind of trouble, even in a bad neighborhood.
What kind of trouble are you referring too?
Aug 22, 2012 10:09am
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Aug 22, 2012 10:11 AM
I'd say he's referring to the trouble of being shot to death
Aug 22, 2012 10:11am
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Aug 22, 2012 10:21 AM
O-Trap;1251996 wrote:Not difficult to avoid that kind of trouble, even in a bad neighborhood.

Poor has nothing to do with it.
The most recent slaying happened early Sunday morning when police said Kentavious Ballard, 30, and a friend were walking through Atlanta's Central Park when two men approached them.

Police asked Channel 2 Action News not to identify his friend.

"He said, 'What y'all looking at?' and he turned and pow, pow, pow! And that's when we fell on the ground," said his unidentified friend.
One year later on Dec. 24, 2001, Janice Ballard-Dean said someone robbed and shot her other son, Xavier, in DeKalb County.
I think you're implying that they made bad decisions or ran with the wrong crowd, which is possible. But one of them was shot while walking in the park in the morning and the other was shot while being robbed. Perhaps there is more to it than that but it's also possible that they were innocent.
Aug 22, 2012 10:21am
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Aug 22, 2012 10:23 AM
sportchampps;1252009 wrote:I'd say he's referring to the trouble of being shot to death
I just don't think the article is very clear. Doesn't mention any criminal record for any of the brothers but I can see that being left out. Atlanta is a shithole, Odds are that they weren't just randomly murdered but it's certainly possible.
Aug 22, 2012 10:23am
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Aug 22, 2012 10:25 AM
Rotinaj;1252016 wrote:I just don't think the article is very clear. Doesn't mention any criminal record for any of the brothers but I can see that being left out. Atlanta is a shithole, Odds are that they weren't just randomly murdered but it's certainly possible.
The pictures in the article certainly don't make them look innocent and it definitely sounds suspicious. I just would not be so quick to judge a family that lost three sons based on what I currently know.
Aug 22, 2012 10:25am
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Aug 22, 2012 10:31 AM
I didn't know of any pictures in he article. They arent showing up on my phone.
Aug 22, 2012 10:31am
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Aug 22, 2012 10:34 AM
FatHobbit;1252015 wrote:I think you're implying that they made bad decisions or ran with the wrong crowd, which is possible. But one of them was shot while walking in the park in the morning and the other was shot while being robbed. Perhaps there is more to it than that but it's also possible that they were innocent.
generally "early morning" doesnt refer to the time of day when he would have been walking to church on sunday....but probably between the hours of midnight and 4am etc. the old saying, nothing good happens after 2am generally holds true, especially when walking through shitty neighborhoods.
Aug 22, 2012 10:34am
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Aug 22, 2012 10:34 AM
Rotinaj;1252030 wrote:I didn't know of any pictures in he article. They arent showing up on my phone.
Aug 22, 2012 10:34am
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Aug 22, 2012 10:38 AM
Glory Days;1252035 wrote:generally "early morning" doesnt refer to the time of day when he would have been walking to church on sunday....but probably between the hours of midnight and 4am etc. the old saying, nothing good happens after 2am generally holds true, especially when walking through shitty neighborhoods.
That makes sense. I'd still like to know the exact time.
Aug 22, 2012 10:38am
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Aug 22, 2012 10:46 AM
FatHobbit;1252036 wrote:
Guilty!
Aug 22, 2012 10:46am
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Aug 22, 2012 7:01 PM
Kentavious Ballard's mug shot




list of charges-
[URL="http://%20Charge%201%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20STATUTE:%20817.568%282%29%28A%29/F%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20CHARGE:%20VOP%20FRAUD%20USE/%20PERSONAL%20ID%20INFO%20*%20EXT%20FRM%20GA%20%09%20Charge%202%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20STATUTE:%20817.568%282%29%28A%29/F%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20CHARGE:%20VOP%20FRAUD%20USE/PERSONAL%20ID%20INFO%20*EXT%20FRM%20GA%20%09%20Charge%203%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20STATUTE:%20817.568%282%29%28A%29/F%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20CHARGE:%20VOP%20FRAUD%20USE/%20PERSONAL%20ID%20INFO%20*EXT%20FRM%20GA%20%09%20Charge%204%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20STATUTE:%20817.034%284%29%28A%29%281%29/F%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20CHARGE:%20VOP%20SCHME%20TO%20DEFRAUD%20$50,000%20OR%20MORE%20*EXT/GA%20%09%20Charge%205%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20STATUTE:%20812.014%282%29%28C%29%286%29/F%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20CHARGE:%20GRAND%20THEFT%20%28MOTOR%20VEHICLE%29"]http:// Charge 1 STATUTE: 817.568(2)(A)/F CHARGE: VOP FRAUD USE/ PERSONAL ID INFO * EXT FRM GA Charge 2 STATUTE: 817.568(2)(A)/F CHARGE: VOP FRAUD USE/PERSONAL ID INFO *EXT FRM GA Charge 3 STATUTE: 817.568(2)(A)/F CHARGE: VOP FRAUD USE/ PERSONAL ID INFO *EXT FRM GA Charge 4 STATUTE: 817.034(4)(A)(1)/F CHARGE: VOP SCHME TO DEFRAUD $50,000 OR MORE *EXT/GA Charge 5 STATUTE: 812.014(2)(C)(6)/F CHARGE: GRAND THEFT (MOTOR VEHICLE)[/URL]


http://florida.arrests.org/Arrests/Kentavious_Ballard_2622017/
Aug 22, 2012 7:01pm
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Aug 22, 2012 7:04 PM
FatHobbit;1252036 wrote:
Guy on the right is alive. Plays a detective on Law & Order
Aug 22, 2012 7:04pm
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Aug 22, 2012 7:22 PM
FatHobbit;1252015 wrote:I think you're implying that they made bad decisions or ran with the wrong crowd, which is possible. But one of them was shot while walking in the park in the morning and the other was shot while being robbed. Perhaps there is more to it than that but it's also possible that they were innocent.
It's possible. I wouldn't bet on it if I had to gamble, though.
Aug 22, 2012 7:22pm
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Aug 22, 2012 9:34 PM
gut;1252510 wrote:Guy on the right is alive. Plays a detective on Law & Order
Beat me to it. It's Ice-T!

Aug 22, 2012 9:34pm
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Aug 22, 2012 9:37 PM
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said_aouita;1252502 wrote:Kentavious Ballard's mug shot




list of charges-
[URL="http:// Charge 1 STATUTE: 817.568(2)(A)/F CHARGE: VOP FRAUD USE/ PERSONAL ID INFO * EXT FRM GA Charge 2 STATUTE: 817.568(2)(A)/F CHARGE: VOP FRAUD USE/PERSONAL ID INFO *EXT FRM GA Charge 3 STATUTE: 817.568(2)(A)/F CHARGE: VOP FRAUD USE/ PERSONAL ID INFO *EXT FRM GA Charge 4 STATUTE: 817.034(4)(A)(1)/F CHARGE: VOP SCHME TO DEFRAUD $50,000 OR MORE *EXT/GA Charge 5 STATUTE: 812.014(2)(C)(6)/F CHARGE: GRAND THEFT (MOTOR VEHICLE)"]http:// Charge 1 STATUTE: 817.568(2)(A)/F CHARGE: VOP FRAUD USE/ PERSONAL ID INFO * EXT FRM GA Charge 2 STATUTE: 817.568(2)(A)/F CHARGE: VOP FRAUD USE/PERSONAL ID INFO *EXT FRM GA Charge 3 STATUTE: 817.568(2)(A)/F CHARGE: VOP FRAUD USE/ PERSONAL ID INFO *EXT FRM GA Charge 4 STATUTE: 817.034(4)(A)(1)/F CHARGE: VOP SCHME TO DEFRAUD $50,000 OR MORE *EXT/GA Charge 5 STATUTE: 812.014(2)(C)(6)/F CHARGE: GRAND THEFT (MOTOR VEHICLE)[/URL]


http://florida.arrests.org/Arrests/Kentavious_Ballard_2622017/
Aug 22, 2012 9:37pm
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Aug 22, 2012 10:20 PM
hasbeen;1252648 wrote:Beat me to it. It's Ice-T!


I'm pretty sure that's Will Smith
Aug 22, 2012 10:20pm
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DeadliestWarrior34;1252696 wrote:I'm pretty sure that's Will Smith
I thought it was Denzel Washington.
Aug 23, 2012 8:05am
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i have a buddy who lives in short north and about six mos ago he was returning home from dinner and drinks about 12am and a random car stopped and shot him as he was walking up to his porch. police believe it was some type of gang initiation but other than that have no clue. he is a really nice guy w no enemies or record so it does happen.

that being said these guys look like bangers to me. i also know lots of families of students ive had over the years that have up to 5-6 brothers who are all locked up or dead. its def a pattern w some families
Aug 23, 2012 8:11am
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Aug 23, 2012 9:38 AM
Gblock;1252793 wrote:i have a buddy who lives in short north and about six mos ago he was returning home from dinner and drinks about 12am and a random car stopped and shot him as he was walking up to his porch. police believe it was some type of gang initiation but other than that have no clue. he is a really nice guy w no enemies or record so it does happen.

that being said these guys look like bangers to me. i also know lots of families of students ive had over the years that have up to 5-6 brothers who are all locked up or dead. its def a pattern w some families
Oh, random violence does indeed happen. However, three of four boys in a household being victims of violence just doesn't seem "random."
Aug 23, 2012 9:38am
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Aug 23, 2012 7:19 PM
O-Trap;1252849 wrote:Oh, random violence does indeed happen. However, three of four boys in a household being victims of violence just doesn't seem "random."
What I'm thinking. Being in the wrong place at the wrong time happens rarely. A .750 average is a lot more than rarely.
Aug 23, 2012 7:19pm