sleeper;1250215 wrote:Those teams have proven nothing. Here are the best team in the past 6 years:

2011: Oklahoma State
2010: TCU
2009: Boise State
2008: Utah
2007: Hawaii
2006: Boise State

So what you're saying is that OSU would've lost to Boise State in '06 and Hawaii in '07? That Hawaii team got beat 41-10 by Georgia.

The '06 Florida team would've beaten Boise just as bad as they beat Ohio State...maybe worse

sleeper;1250215 wrote:Those teams have proven nothing. Here are the best team in the past 6 years:

2011: Ohio State
2010: Ohio State
2009: Ohio State
2008: Ohio State
2007: Ohio State
2006: Ohio State

+1

Ty Webb;1250480 wrote:So what you're saying is that OSU would've lost to Boise State in '06 and Hawaii in '07? That Hawaii team got beat 41-10 by Georgia.

The '06 Florida team would've beaten Boise just as bad as they beat Ohio State...maybe worse

Besides 2011, which I have no doubt in my mind would have beat LSU/Bama by 21+ points, I would say those games would be a toss up.

This over signing stuff cracks me up. You can only have so many players on your team across the whole country, and the ones that are over signed are usually the ones that arent the greatest, but yet they can use a spot the following year (grey shirt) if they want to stick around. They end up taking a spot out of the recruiting class the following year. They end up missing a year of football. It doesnt create any advantage besides the team getting someone else if someone doesnt qualify (remember the SEC doesnt have the smartest athletes ). I never knew it was against the rules anyhow. Its not the SEC's fault that they are smarter than other conferences. And, and............there are an average of 30+ schools that do it each year. As far as I know, the SEC doesnt have over 30 schools in it. So, its happening all over the place.

But, I will add. I dont like it and dont agree with it when a athlete really wants to go somewhere, but are told they dont have a spot for them and to come back next year. My own team has done that, and Bama does it alot.

ptown_trojans_1;1250249 wrote:Thanks.
Last year, most college football analyst were saying USC was the most dangerous team. Their offense with Woods and Barkley were amazing late. The defense, yes thin, was still pretty solid.

Did you even watch them at all late last year?
There is football outside the SEC.......

Thinking USC is overrated and not a title contender this year shows no understanding of college football.

Yes I watched them last year, and I watched them almost get beat by bad teams. And I watched them give up a ton of points. They would of had a handful of losses last year in the SEC. By the end of the year, with their injuries and no depth, they wont be in the title hunt....even with their pansy schedule. Over hyped and over ranked, just like FSU and Oklahoma (this year and last year). I called out about every team last year that was over hyped from the beginning and was correct. Of course, Ive done that for years and been pretty accurate. If you dont believe me, go back to earlier posts I made here or jj huddle days. And Im sure when I get time, I will say all the teams that are way over hyped this year.

cats gone wild;1250514 wrote: And, and............there are an average of 30+ schools that do it each year.

link please?

If the Big Ten had a run of National Champions like this everyone one on here would be saying how superior this conference is. Sure they have some overrated teams but their best teams are always the top teams in the country. Until other conferences beat the in the biggest of games a few times they will be the best conference. If the roles were reversed everyone would be saying what a joke this article is.

xKoToVxSyNdRoMe;1250603 wrote:If the Big Ten had a run of National Champions like this everyone one on here would be saying how superior this conference is. Sure they have some overrated teams but their best teams are always the top teams in the country. Until other conferences beat the in the biggest of games a few times they will be the best conference. If the roles were reversed everyone would be saying what a joke this article is.

Sure some B1G fans would be boasting about that accomplishment, but that doesn't mean they are correct. The B1G is already the superior conference in the country.

sleeper;1250625 wrote:Sure some B1G fans would be boasting about that accomplishment, but that doesn't mean they are correct. The B1G is already the superior conference in the country.

at what? it certainly isnt football

KnightRyder;1250634 wrote:at what? it certainly isnt football

More titles, more Heisman winners, more All-Americans, an above .500 winning percentage against the SEC, more wins, highest ranked academic conference besides the Ivy league, etc.

When the SEC can top all of that, they can be in the discussion. Right now it's B1G or bust.

vball10set;1250573 wrote:link please?

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/117418-college-football-recruiting-for-beginners-part-iii-oversigning-and-greyshirts
Heres an older article:

cats gone wild;1250811 wrote:http://bleacherreport.com/articles/117418-college-football-recruiting-for-beginners-part-iii-oversigning-and-greyshirts
Heres an older article:

You cited bleacher report that says it all

Crimson streak;1250830 wrote:You cited bleacher report that says it all

That's why I didn't even bother opening the link.

cats gone wild;1250516 wrote:Yes I watched them last year, and I watched them almost get beat by bad teams. And I watched them give up a ton of points. They would of had a handful of losses last year in the SEC. By the end of the year, with their injuries and no depth, they wont be in the title hunt....even with their pansy schedule. Over hyped and over ranked, just like FSU and Oklahoma (this year and last year). I called out about every team last year that was over hyped from the beginning and was correct. Of course, Ive done that for years and been pretty accurate. If you dont believe me, go back to earlier posts I made here or jj huddle days. And Im sure when I get time, I will say all the teams that are way over hyped this year.

Their two losses last year were @ ASU, the fourth game of year, when ASU was going back and forth between being ranked in the top 25.
The other loss was that epic game against Stanford.
They did not have that many injuries at the end of the year. The defense gelled, and other than Oregon and Stanford, didn't give up more than 17 in the Pac-12. Not bad.
The only games they were close to bad teams were Arizona, in October.

Every time else, they covered or nearly covered the spread.

USC is not over hyped. They are a solid, young, team that will hopefully challenge the SEC at the end of the year.

Good for you on predictions. I think you are wrong on this one. As does Vegas, which is why the over/ under for USC is 10 wins.
I've made a nice amount of dough myself over the last year few years on predictions myself.

And finally, where do you see USC losing? Oregon? Stanford? Washington? Utah?

Anyone else think that SOS and CGW are one and the same? :rolleyes:

Another year, same ol B1G fans showing ignorance. :laugh:

FWIW I heard today miss st may be under investigation/getting into trouble. I was a little drunk when I heard this, but something about their top recruit. Maybe one of you SEC diehards know what I'm talking about.

Dont see nothing about it on the SEC rant website. They find out everything be4 anyone. You were drunk.

Speedofsand;1250972 wrote:Another year, same ol B1G fans showing ignorance. :laugh:

cats gone wild;1251206 wrote:Dont see nothing about it on the SEC rant website. They find out everything be4 anyone. You were drunk.

yup--IP's match

Buckeye fan here who thinks the SEC is the best conference. B1G is close-ish and then there is a far drop off from there.

http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/30/sec-big-ten-pace-nfl-draft-selections/

From the article:

Of the 253 players selected in the seven-round event, 42 were players from an SEC school. This marks the 13th time in the last 15 seasons — including the last six in a row — that the SEC has led or tied for the most players taken in a single draft.

Nipping on the SEC’s heels, however, was the Big Ten, which saw 41 players from its conference selected. The only other conference with more than 30 players was the ACC (31). The Big Ten and ACC were second and third last April as well.

Since 1990, a total of 862 SEC players have been selected, far outdistancing the Big Ten and its 747 players.

More NFL players means more talent and athleticism and both conferences have elite coaching. SEC has been the best conference of late...historically the B1G has an agrument and probably a winning one.

sleeper;1250646 wrote:More titles, more Heisman winners, more All-Americans, an above .500 winning percentage against the SEC, more wins, highest ranked academic conference besides the Ivy league, etc.

When the SEC can top all of that, they can be in the discussion. Right now it's B1G or bust.

when was the last time the big ten won a national title in football. one conference seems to have a strangle hold on that , and it aint the big ten.

KnightRyder;1251299 wrote:when was the last time the big ten won a national title in football. one conference seems to have a strangle hold on that , and it aint the big ten.

Very astute observation, but based on your grammar and punctuation (or lack thereof), I'd assume your education level is what, 10th grade?

btw, to answer your question, it was 2002---by THE Ohio State Buckeyes

KnightRyder;1251299 wrote:when was the last time the big ten won a national title in football. one conference seems to have a strangle hold on that , and it aint the big ten.

Aren't you a Florida State fan? LOL

TBone14;1251246 wrote:Buckeye fan here who thinks the SEC is the best conference. B1G is close-ish and then there is a far drop off from there.

http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/30/sec-big-ten-pace-nfl-draft-selections/

From the article:



More NFL players means more talent and athleticism and both conferences have elite coaching. SEC has been the best conference of late...historically the B1G has an agrument and probably a winning one.

I think most OSU fans would agree(excluding sleeper). The SEC has an unfair advantage due to over signing though.

KnightRyder;1251299 wrote:when was the last time the big ten won a national title in football. one conference seems to have a strangle hold on that , and it aint the big ten.

Pretty simple. Add up the number of titles B1G schools have won vs. the number of titles SEC teams have won. B1G is in the lead, although not by much!