Mitt is ready to announce

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Ty Webb
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Aug 11, 2012 1:06pm
Here is a question no one has asked yet:

If Paul Ryan in this to really help Mitt Romney become president...or did he accept to push his own ideas and promote himself and set himself up for 2016?
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Aug 11, 2012 1:07pm
IggyPride00;1244704 wrote:This was a good thing for BHO, who more and more looks like he is going to luck his way into a second term.

The Ryan choice turns this into a choice election, rather than a referendum on his failure, which in his case is a good thing.

Paul Ryan scares seniors, who are Willards biggest voting block. We will also see plenty of commercials with granny flying over the cliff in her wheel chair with Ryan/Willard pushing. That is of course after the opening half focuses on Willard's taxes.

Willard's biggest hope right now has to be that disaffected conservatives content to sit on their hands come out and vote for the ticket by voting for Paul Ryan who many wish had run.

I am surprised that Ryan was the pick in that he has almost next to no private sector experience (other than a few months at a construction company after college) and is a life long Washington bureaucrat. Part of Willard's line of attack on BHO has been to slam not understanding the economy, and he puts a guy on the ticket who has never created a job in his life (other than to put more and more people on his washington government staff). It is kind of peculiar.
Nice post Iggy!
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Aug 11, 2012 1:59pm
Willard did announce Paul Ryan as "The next President of the United States" this morning. A Freudian slip?
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Aug 11, 2012 3:03pm
Ty Webb;1244703 wrote:Biden will school Ryan!

Ryan will come off brash,cocky,and arrogant while Joey stays on message
A lampshade could beat Biden in a debate
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Aug 11, 2012 3:15pm
Can't believe Ryan is going to throw away his political future by attaching himself to a losing ticket. The guy could have had a legitimate shot at being President.
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Aug 11, 2012 3:26pm
2kool4skool;1244771 wrote:Can't believe Ryan is going to throw away his political future by attaching himself to a losing ticket. The guy could have had a legitimate shot at being President.
I am equally surprised in a sense by that. Reminds me of the John Edwards pick by Kerry. He was similary a rising star in the party at the time with future presidential aspirations, but the stench of being on a losing ticket with a wodden, out of touch, elitist, Massachusetts liberal ended any hope of that ever happening.
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Aug 11, 2012 7:07pm
Still voting for Ron Paul, our next President.
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Aug 11, 2012 7:54pm
I was really still hoping that Sarah Palin would get the nod again. FML.
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Aug 11, 2012 8:25pm
IggyPride00;1244785 wrote:I am equally surprised in a sense by that. Reminds me of the John Edwards pick by Kerry. He was similary a rising star in the party at the time with future presidential aspirations, but the stench of being on a losing ticket with a wodden, out of touch, elitist, Massachusetts liberal ended any hope of that ever happening.
So, Edwards fall from the party's elite was based on the fact he ran with Kerry and lost? His love child with Rielle Hunter, his massive coverup of said tryst, his disdain for his dying wife and his public trial on misuse of political funds had nothing to do with his fall from grace? Seriously?
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stlouiedipalma
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Aug 11, 2012 8:50pm
Ryan can always look forward to running against Hillary in 2016.


As a career-long Washington insider, architect of a budget plan which will tilt heavily toward the "haves" while leaving seniors to fend for themselves and a leading member of the most useless Congress in my lifetime, Ryan comes into this campaign with a HUGE target on his back. I sure hope he has a tough skin, cause everyone will be gunning for him.

At least Mitt won't have to take all of the criticism. For a few days. Then he not only has to answer for his tax issue, he'll have to explain to the Republican hierarchy why he "pulled a McCain" and picked someone who cannot possibly help him win any battleground states.
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Aug 11, 2012 9:49pm
BGFalcons82;1244951 wrote:So, Edwards fall from the party's elite was based on the fact he ran with Kerry and lost? His love child with Rielle Hunter, his massive coverup of said tryst, his disdain for his dying wife and his public trial on misuse of political funds had nothing to do with his fall from grace? Seriously?
He was done as a viable presidential candidate even before that came out. He was always running third in that race, and never was able to get the stench of the Kerry loss of his resume.
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Aug 11, 2012 9:50pm
IggyPride00;1244785 wrote:I am equally surprised in a sense by that. Reminds me of the John Edwards pick by Kerry. He was similary a rising star in the party at the time with future presidential aspirations, but the stench of being on a losing ticket with a wodden, out of touch, elitist, Massachusetts liberal ended any hope of that ever happening.
BGFalcons82;1244951 wrote:So, Edwards fall from the party's elite was based on the fact he ran with Kerry and lost? His love child with Rielle Hunter, his massive coverup of said tryst, his disdain for his dying wife and his public trial on misuse of political funds had nothing to do with his fall from grace? Seriously?
Yeah I scratched my head after reading that one too.

Paul Ryan could have all the business experience in the world, but the reality is the same demagoguery would be taking place- he's too rich, he paid too little in taxes, he fired somebody 20 years ago, he was related to someone who knew someone who lost their job at a place where his father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate was CEO.
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Aug 11, 2012 10:31pm
ts1227;1244763 wrote:A lampshade could beat Biden in a debate

So a lampshade is smarter than Sarah Palin?
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Aug 11, 2012 10:35pm
Ty Webb;1245042 wrote:So a lampshade is smarter than Sarah Palin?
Would you put money on him beating her now?
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Aug 11, 2012 10:36pm
bigdaddy2003;1245047 wrote:Would you put money on him beating her now?

In a heartbeat....
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Aug 11, 2012 11:04pm
Ty Webb;1245042 wrote:So a lampshade is smarter than Sarah Palin?

Both VP nominees in 08 were retards
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Aug 12, 2012 10:12am
Ty Webb;1245042 wrote:So a lampshade is smarter than Sarah Palin?
Palin took Plugs to a draw. To think Ryan won't take him apart is at best naive, at worst just plain stupid.
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Aug 12, 2012 10:37am
Lets see,

Voted for TARP
Voted for Auto Bailout
Voted for Medicare Part D
Voted for No Child Left Behind

Just another guy who tows the party line.
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Aug 12, 2012 12:21pm
The media was already playing gotcha games this morning with Ryan and some of the other VP candidates on the morning shows.

I saw Pawlenty was asked how many years of tax returns to the Romney campaign for vetting, and when he said it was more than 1 they immediately went into the hypocrisy angle of Willard requiring his candidates to submit more information than he is willing to for the American people.

They couldn't even give Willard 24 hours to roll out his VP before they got right back to it as far as his taxes.
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Aug 12, 2012 12:42pm
pmoney25;1245178 wrote:Lets see,

Voted for TARP
Voted for Auto Bailout
Voted for Medicare Part D
Voted for No Child Left Behind

Just another guy who tows the party line.
Yep. Votes for endless wars and empire spending as well. And his radical budget plan that "balances" the budget in 40 years without cutting any spending is a joke all by itself.
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stlouiedipalma
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Aug 12, 2012 2:56pm
IggyPride00;1245286 wrote:The media was already playing gotcha games this morning with Ryan and some of the other VP candidates on the morning shows.

I saw Pawlenty was asked how many years of tax returns to the Romney campaign for vetting, and when he said it was more than 1 they immediately went into the hypocrisy angle of Willard requiring his candidates to submit more information than he is willing to for the American people.

They couldn't even give Willard 24 hours to roll out his VP before they got right back to it as far as his taxes.
When George asked Pawlenty that question Tim looked like a deer in the headlights and sputtered his way through it. This guy was being vetted for the VP spot and couldn't answer? Sheesh! Obviously he wasn't prepped to answer anything but to give talking points about Ryan. Maybe he was still disappointed about being passed over.
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jmog
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Aug 12, 2012 6:07pm
BoatShoes;1244663 wrote:Paul Ryan and his minions in the House were the single biggest roadblocks to a bi-partisan budget deal which would've made your claim about obama being the worst in history on budget/deficit un-true.
Or they were the ones that were the closest to being right...
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jmog
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Aug 12, 2012 6:09pm
BoatShoes;1244693 wrote:Means nothing. The government is running. Senate Democrats and the President had deals on the table more conservative than things Ronald Reagan signed and House Republicans dug in their heals and sacrificed anyone who was willing to deal.
Boat, you saying that the Senate not passing a budget in nearly 3 years "means nothing" goes to show you how out of touch you and a lot of the far left and far right wingers really are.
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jmog
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Aug 12, 2012 6:11pm
BoatShoes;1244702 wrote:The administration has a plan, it's called the Affordable Care Act which has realistic approaches to curbing the growth in spending that will lead to a better approach in the near future. Alice Rivlin, who once co-authored a plan with Ryan totally repudiates any of his new proposals and supports the affordable care act which Paul Ryan wants to repeal.
The AFA, as been proven by the CBO does nothing to lower growth in spending. Matter of fact the CBO has now scored it as adding $2.7 trillion to the deficit over 10 years.

Come on Boat, you are either purposefully misleading or uninformed (in my opinion).
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jmog
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Aug 12, 2012 6:17pm
Ty Webb;1245042 wrote:So a lampshade is smarter than Sarah Palin?
The fact that Palin made the debate respectable, after her obvious debacles before that, is testament to how bad Biden is.