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Belly35

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Aug 7, 2012 10:52 AM
Is our society so skewed with crazy and radical behavior that the Law Enforcement can’t handle the protection of its Citizens. National average responce time for police is 11 minutes.
We talk about the pro and con of Gun control, blame assault weapons, CCW value but the issue is not really about the guns and the lack on knowledge of weapons or those who own guns legally but the spontaneous terrorist acts of violence on the public by disturbed irrational individuals. </SPAN>
I’m one of the first to imply that those act like in movie theater and now in Sikh temple would required a more skilled, prepared and better trained individual than the standard CCW individual to response quickly, proficiently to prevent additional deaths. I’m not sure or confident that I would be able to perform such a task now… but in times of desperation many people can achieve much </SPAN>

But what if there was a another level of CCW. CCWCM (Conceal Carry Weapon Citizen Militia) Private individuals (ex military, ems, police, firer and private citizen ) with their own money and time take the Psychobiological testing that Law Enforcement requires, 4 hours per month range qualification, meeting with local, state and Federal Law Enforcement, and a renewal every 3 years. </SPAN>
Those individual qualified as a CCWCM would be permitted to carry weapons into other areas restricted present CCW registered individuals can go. </SPAN>

In the future will any of us be safe from our own society creation?

Would you or would you not favor such a program?

Your opinions and comment are important....
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Aug 7, 2012 10:52am
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Aug 7, 2012 10:53 AM
Hmmm...that is interesting.
Aug 7, 2012 10:53am
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Aug 7, 2012 11:11 AM
Bring back lynchings.
Aug 7, 2012 11:11am
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Belly35

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Aug 7, 2012 11:16 AM
Steel Valley Football;1241644 wrote:Bring back lynchings.

Once a dumb ass alway a dumb ass everyone knows rope is made of hemp why waste a good rope... :laugh:
Aug 7, 2012 11:16am
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Aug 7, 2012 11:17 AM
Belly35;1241629 wrote:National average responce time for police is 11 minutes.
I've always felt police were more interested in documenting crimes than solving them. Ever had anything stolen or a car broken into? "Yup, they took your shit. That sucks..."
Aug 7, 2012 11:17am
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Aug 7, 2012 11:17 AM
Oh good, another crazy overreaction thread from Belly.
Aug 7, 2012 11:17am
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Aug 7, 2012 11:18 AM
FatHobbit;1241650 wrote:I've always felt police were more interested in documenting crimes than solving them. Ever had anything stolen or a car broken into? "Yup, they took your ****. That sucks..."
Cops aren't into solving petty crimes like B&E, they're into solving murders and the like.
Aug 7, 2012 11:18am
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Aug 7, 2012 11:20 AM
Is it overreacting to discuss it? It's no more overreacting than all of the articles that come out asking if it's time to consider gun control every time some crazy comes out. (I love how the media makes it sound like the NRA has americans brain washed into rejecting anything that sounds like gun control. Perhaps we just don't want gun control?)
Aug 7, 2012 11:20am
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Aug 7, 2012 11:21 AM
Cher;1241652 wrote:Cops aren't into solving petty crimes like B&E, they're into solving murders and the like.
I would bet the majority of police officers have never solved a murder. (I could be wrong) I think they are more interested in writing speeding tickets and generating revenue.
Aug 7, 2012 11:21am
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Aug 7, 2012 11:23 AM
Cher;1241651 wrote:Oh good, another crazy overreaction thread from Belly.
lol you joined in July yet you're commenting on Belly's thread topics? Which other user are you? Sleeper or dlazz?
Aug 7, 2012 11:23am
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Aug 7, 2012 11:24 AM
Raw Dawgin' it;1241657 wrote:lol you joined in July yet you're commenting on Belly's thread topics? Which other user are you? Sleeper or dlazz?
My money is on sleeper.
Aug 7, 2012 11:24am
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Aug 7, 2012 11:26 AM
Cher;1241651 wrote:Oh good, another crazy overreaction thread from Belly.
Thread asking for opinion and commnets on a resourcefulness idea is a overreaction ... really
Aug 7, 2012 11:26am
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Aug 7, 2012 11:28 AM
Cher;1241651 wrote:Oh good, another crazy overreaction thread from Belly.
It's a better option than weapon banning/control, IMO. It's an interesting thought.
Aug 7, 2012 11:28am
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Aug 7, 2012 11:34 AM
Belly35;1241629 wrote:Is our society so skewed with crazy and radical behavior that the Law Enforcement can&#8217;t handle the protection of its Citizens. National average responce time for police is 11 minutes.
We talk about the pro and con of Gun control, blame assault weapons, CCW value but the issue is not really about the guns and the lack on knowledge of weapons or those who own guns legally but the spontaneous terrorist acts of violence on the public by disturbed irrational individuals.
I&#8217;m one of the first to imply that those act like in movie theater and now in Sikh temple would required a more skilled, prepared and better trained individual than the standard CCW individual to response quickly, proficiently to prevent additional deaths. I&#8217;m not sure or confident that I would be able to perform such a task now&#8230; but in times of desperation many people can achieve much

But what if there was a another level of CCW. CCWCM (Conceal Carry Weapon Citizen Militia) Private individuals (ex military, ems, police, firer and private citizen ) with their own money and time take the Psychobiological testing that Law Enforcement requires, 4 hours per month range qualification, meeting with local, state and Federal Law Enforcement, and a renewal every 3 years.
Those individual qualified as a CCWCM would be permitted to carry weapons into other areas restricted present CCW registered individuals can go.

In the future will any of us be safe from our own society creation?

Would you or would you not favor such a program?

Your opinions and comment are important....
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Aug 7, 2012 11:34am
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Aug 7, 2012 11:36 AM
FatHobbit;1241656 wrote:I would bet the majority of police officers have never solved a murder. (I could be wrong) I think they are more interested in writing speeding tickets and generating revenue.
generally people who commit murders and violent crimes, try to avoid doing those things without the police being around. however, many murders and violent criminals are arrested through traffic violations.
Aug 7, 2012 11:36am
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Aug 7, 2012 11:41 AM
FatHobbit;1241656 wrote:I would bet the majority of police officers have never solved a murder. (I could be wrong) I think they are more interested in writing speeding tickets and generating revenue.
I agree, although I think a good part of the blame is more on lack of funding than actual interest. Don't know how things are all over the state/country, but I'm always hearing about the sheriff's office and other local governmental agencies struggling to keep afloat in my rural area. If tickets = revenue and funding for local government agencies is struggling, the sad reality is that it makes financial sense to focus on speeders, DUIs and other minor league stuff and spend the hours working out the ticket-writing hand.
Aug 7, 2012 11:41am
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Aug 7, 2012 11:41 AM
Belly?

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2012/08/north_ridgeville_man_arrested.html
A 37-year-old North Ridgeville man is being held without bail in the Westlake jail after an off-duty police officer found a loaded gun, extra ammunition clips and four knives in a satchel he carried into a Saturday night showing of "The Dark Knight Rises." ........

"Bullins looked inside and saw a loaded Glock 9 millimeter handgun; two fully loaded magazine clips; three knives in the bag and one on his person," Arcuri continued. "When Bullins asked why he carried the weapons into the theater, the man said, 'No problem. I'll put them in my car.' But it was too late for that."..........

Police believe Smith, who has a wife and young daughter, spent a short time in the military. He does not have a permit to carry a concealed weapon. He does not have a criminal record, Arcuri said.
Aug 7, 2012 11:41am
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Aug 7, 2012 11:45 AM
Raw Dawgin' it;1241657 wrote:lol you joined in July yet you're commenting on Belly's thread topics? Which other user are you? Sleeper or dlazz?
I have been reading for months and just recently made an account.
FatHobbit;1241656 wrote:I would bet the majority of police officers have never solved a murder. (I could be wrong) I think they are more interested in writing speeding tickets and generating revenue.
What an asinine thing to say. It isn't a cops job to solve every little petty thing that comes across their desk. It's a waste of time for them to go after kids breaking into cars when there are murders happening. It's also ludicrous to think that cops have the fancy resources on CSI to catch would-be thieves. Cops aren't going to dust for prints if someone jacks your car stereo.

Get real.

In small towns where there isn't anything going on, cops are probably just writing tickets out of boredom...not to "generate revenue".
Aug 7, 2012 11:45am
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Aug 7, 2012 11:50 AM
Cher;1241681 wrote:I have been reading for months and just recently made an account.
under the username sleeper or dlazz? lol
Aug 7, 2012 11:50am
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Aug 7, 2012 11:52 AM
Raw Dawgin' it;1241683 wrote:under the username sleeper or dlazz? lol
Neither, but your love for potential dlazz and sleeper aliases is hilarious.
Aug 7, 2012 11:52am
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Aug 7, 2012 11:56 AM
Cher;1241685 wrote:Neither, but your love for potential dlazz and sleeper aliases is hilarious.
Me calling you some idiot who can't stand not posting because he's banned to the basement is hilarious to you?
Aug 7, 2012 11:56am
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Aug 7, 2012 11:59 AM
Raw Dawgin' it;1241687 wrote:Me calling you some idiot who can't stand not posting because he's banned to the basement is hilarious to you?
Not that, just the fact that you accuse any new member of being dlazz/sleeper. They're both full of shit and they know it. Accusing new members isn't the way to do it. And for that, your act is hilarious and makes you no better than dlazz or sleeper.
Aug 7, 2012 11:59am
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Aug 7, 2012 12:00 PM
Cher;1241691 wrote:Not that, just the fact that you accuse any new member of being dlazz/sleeper. They're both full of shit and they know it. Accusing new members isn't the way to do it. And for that, your act is hilarious and makes you no better than dlazz or sleeper.
You mean, let me understand this cause, ya know maybe it's me, I'm a little fucked up maybe, but I'm funny how, I mean funny like I'm a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh, I'm here to fuckin' amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how? How am I funny?
Aug 7, 2012 12:00pm
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Aug 7, 2012 12:07 PM
In this context, "hilarious" and "sad" are synonymous.
Aug 7, 2012 12:07pm
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Aug 7, 2012 12:41 PM
Belly35;1241649 wrote:Once a dumb ass alway a dumb ass everyone knows rope is made of hemp why waste a good rope... :laugh:

This dumb ass at least knows you don't smoke the hemp fibers used to make rope. Now, you do too. ;)
Aug 7, 2012 12:41pm