mcburg93
Posts: 3,167
Jul 17, 2012 3:08pm
To me if you cant live in the woods with a knife some fishing line and a hook for longer then a week you are stupid. Everything I have learned in life has taught me to survive. I might not be able to build a rocket or program a computer but I can survive on my own and live.
O-Trap
Posts: 14,994
Jul 17, 2012 3:24pm
Wouldn't our less-evolved ancestors be able to do these?mcburg93;1227219 wrote:To me if you cant live in the woods with a knife some fishing line and a hook for longer then a week you are stupid. Everything I have learned in life has taught me to survive. I might not be able to build a rocket or program a computer but I can survive on my own and live.
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Jul 17, 2012 3:26pm
We are in the 2000's. Your bear gryll's bullshit isn't needed anymore.mcburg93;1227219 wrote:To me if you cant live in the woods with a knife some fishing line and a hook for longer then a week you are stupid. Everything I have learned in life has taught me to survive. I might not be able to build a rocket or program a computer but I can survive on my own and live.
mcburg93
Posts: 3,167
Jul 17, 2012 3:31pm
This depends where they were raised. Inner city people prolly couldnt survive. Im not trying to classify and its only my opinion.O-Trap;1227236 wrote:Wouldn't our less-evolved ancestors be able to do these?
I went and helped on a survival course when I was younger during the summers. You wouldnt believe how stupid smart people really are about being able to survive. Most of the people had no clue how to bait a hook or tie a hook to a line. They had a hard time grasping the concept of keep it simple. They tend to over think things. Teaching them to butcher something that they kill is even harder to do. I guess growing up in bfe has had its advantages.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Jul 17, 2012 3:31pm
Hey Belly, here's a good measuring stick for ya'mcburg93;1227219 wrote:To me if you cant live in the woods with a knife some fishing line and a hook for longer then a week you are stupid. Everything I have learned in life has taught me to survive. I might not be able to build a rocket or program a computer but I can survive on my own and live.
mcburg93
Posts: 3,167
Jul 17, 2012 3:40pm
vball10set;1227244 wrote:Hey Belly, here's a good measuring stick for ya'
lol
O-Trap
Posts: 14,994
Jul 17, 2012 3:43pm
What I meant was, the things you've just attributed to being "smart" (ie being able to survive) can be ascribed to our more Neanderthalic ancestors. Were they "smart" by your standards, then?mcburg93;1227243 wrote:This depends where they were raised. Inner city people prolly couldnt survive. Im not trying to classify and its only my opinion.
I went and helped on a survival course when I was younger during the summers. You wouldnt believe how stupid smart people really are about being able to survive. Most of the people had no clue how to bait a hook or tie a hook to a line. They had a hard time grasping the concept of keep it simple. They tend to over think things. Teaching them to butcher something that they kill is even harder to do. I guess growing up in bfe has had its advantages.
FatHobbit
Posts: 8,651
Jul 17, 2012 3:45pm
They certainly were the fittest.O-Trap;1227259 wrote:What I meant was, the things you've just attributed to being "smart" (ie being able to survive) can be ascribed to our more Neanderthalic ancestors. Were they "smart" by your standards, then?
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Jul 17, 2012 3:46pm
belly and mcburg can drink their own piss and start fires with their eyes. They should be running the country!
O-Trap
Posts: 14,994
Jul 17, 2012 3:47pm
No argument there. Not having the cognitive ability to yet sustain oneself without manual labor, it was a given, I'd think.FatHobbit;1227260 wrote:They certainly were the fittest.
mcburg93
Posts: 3,167
Jul 17, 2012 4:04pm
They were smart in their own way. Putting it that way people survive today with the stuff that is available the same as they did. I guess it just dumbfounds me how many people that would not have a clue how to survive if some big natural disaster did happen.O-Trap;1227259 wrote:What I meant was, the things you've just attributed to being "smart" (ie being able to survive) can be ascribed to our more Neanderthalic ancestors. Were they "smart" by your standards, then?
Red Rum
Posts: 1,006
Jul 17, 2012 4:32pm
I think it can be difficult at times to judge intelligence.
take Stephen Hawking for example, he arguably has the most brilliant mind on the planet yet he can't wipe his own ass or communicate without the aid of an electronic device.
If I didn't know what he looked like already, I would easily mistake him for a full blown retard.
rushing to judgement on someones skills based on a set of hard rules (GPA, survival skills, grammar, etc.) seems rather short sighted.
but the hard reality is sometimes people have to make a judgement call for various reasons and qualified, intelligent people can be overlooked.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jul 17, 2012 4:44pm
I think a prime measure of dumbness is asking the OC to write an 8 page paper for you.
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Jul 17, 2012 4:55pm
like_that;1227294 wrote:I think a prime measure of dumbness is asking the OC to write an 8 page paper for you.
Lol. I was waiting for it. I deserve it.
O-Trap
Posts: 14,994
Jul 17, 2012 5:26pm
Fair enough. I think people look at "what we have" now the same way our ancestors might have looked at what they had then. If they were suddenly presented with a drought or famine, many of our ancestors probably would have died, because what they were used to relying on was taken.mcburg93;1227271 wrote:They were smart in their own way. Putting it that way people survive today with the stuff that is available the same as they did. I guess it just dumbfounds me how many people that would not have a clue how to survive if some big natural disaster did happen.
Draw the parallel today, and people don't know how to function when the power goes out for 48-hours. It's because "power" is to us what a creek might have been to our ancestors: necessary to function.
Red Rum;1227289 wrote:
I think it can be difficult at times to judge intelligence.
take Stephen Hawking for example, he arguably has the most brilliant mind on the planet yet he can't wipe his own ass or communicate without the aid of an electronic device.
If I didn't know what he looked like already, I would easily mistake him for a full blown retard.
rushing to judgement on someones skills based on a set of hard rules (GPA, survival skills, grammar, etc.) seems rather short sighted.
but the hard reality is sometimes people have to make a judgement call for various reasons and qualified, intelligent people can be overlooked.
Great post!
Also, I will rep you for bringing up Stephen Hawking.
I like that at least you can laugh about it. It was a bad idea to start that topic. LOL!ernest_t_bass;1227298 wrote:Lol. I was waiting for it. I deserve it.
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Jul 17, 2012 5:36pm
O-Trap;1227306 wrote:I like that at least you can laugh about it. It was a bad idea to start that topic. LOL!
No, it was a bad idea to start it on the OC!
Rotinaj
Posts: 7,699
Jul 17, 2012 5:45pm
I agree. You should of hacked justins account on JJ and started it there.ernest_t_bass;1227308 wrote:No, it was a bad idea to start it on the OC!
O-Trap
Posts: 14,994
Jul 17, 2012 5:45pm
Eh, you're gonna get mocked for that ALMOST anywhere.ernest_t_bass;1227308 wrote:No, it was a bad idea to start it on the OC!
O-Trap
Posts: 14,994
Jul 17, 2012 5:46pm
I think Ender had a script for that.Rotinaj;1227310 wrote:I agree. You should of hacked justins account on JJ and started it there.
BRF
Posts: 8,748
Jul 17, 2012 5:55pm
I go by this, too, Belly, as my general "rule".
There are always exceptions to the rule. You and Einstein are perfect examples.WebFire;1227056 wrote:...but I generally think people who have bad grammar skills and very bad spelling ability are dumb.
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fan_from_texas
Posts: 2,693
Jul 17, 2012 7:53pm
THE4RINGZ;1227047 wrote:I'll take street smart over book smart every time.
When I hear, "I'm not book smart; I'm street smart," what I hear is "I'm not real smart; I'm pretend smart."
There are plenty of high GPA people lacking social skills and what-have-you, but I view GPA/IQ/basic intelligence as a necessary but not sufficient condition for success. Obviously, in some fields where the barrier to entry is low, it's a non-issue.
IQ scores track pretty well with what we consider "success," even if it's an imperfect correlation.
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Jul 17, 2012 8:12pm
fan_from_texas;1227375 wrote:When I hear, "I'm not book smart; I'm street smart," what I hear is "I'm not real smart; I'm pretend smart."
There are plenty of high GPA people lacking social skills and what-have-you, but I view GPA/IQ/basic intelligence as a necessary but not sufficient condition for success. Obviously, in some fields where the barrier to entry is low, it's a non-issue.
IQ scores track pretty well with what we consider "success," even if it's an imperfect correlation.
BOOM!
/lawyered
ts1227
Posts: 12,319
Jul 17, 2012 8:18pm
Some people do possess a large amount of street smarts, but the ones who actually use that line are usually full blown retards in all aspects of life... they aren't even pretend smart.fan_from_texas;1227375 wrote:When I hear, "I'm not book smart; I'm street smart," what I hear is "I'm not real smart; I'm pretend smart."
If they want to sound even dumber, they pull out the "I went to the school of hard knocks" card, which roughly translates to "I can't even count to potato".
mcburg93
Posts: 3,167
Jul 17, 2012 8:25pm
Reported for making fun of me. geez always making fun of the guy that cant count to potato.ts1227;1227395 wrote: "I went to the school of hard knocks" card, which roughly translates to "I can't even count to potato".
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Jul 17, 2012 9:37pm
He is. Just physically instead of mentally.Red Rum;1227289 wrote:If I didn't know what he looked like already, I would easily mistake him for a full blown retard.