newarkcatholicfan
Posts: 3,199
Dec 17, 2009 4:26pm
Fire away.
jpake1
Posts: 2,389
Dec 17, 2009 4:31pm
I think LeBron is the better player, but I'd take Shaq. You don't replace either player, but I couldn't pass on having the shit and the urine down low.
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Dec 17, 2009 4:33pm
This is a tough question, because Shaq is a dominant player, but so is LeBron...
While Shaq has won 4 titles, he's always had a legit sidekick..
I'm honestly not sure who I would take. Partly because LeBron is not in is prime yet.
While Shaq has won 4 titles, he's always had a legit sidekick..
I'm honestly not sure who I would take. Partly because LeBron is not in is prime yet.
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devil1197
Posts: 6,220
Dec 17, 2009 4:34pm
Considering LeBron hasn't reached his prime yet, I'd say this is a question that should be asked in a couple years. Remember LeBron is only 24, but its scary to think he is already being mentioned with these guys.
jpake1
Posts: 2,389
Dec 17, 2009 4:36pm
I think LBJ is in his prime. He's just such a freak his prime will last a decade.
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Dec 17, 2009 5:06pm
IMO, prime is when you have nearly maxed out your potential.. I don't see that yet.
LeBron has gotten ridiculously good from the 3, but still needs to get a better back-to the-basket game...
LeBron should be in his prime by 26.
But, this is just one mans opinion.
LeBron has gotten ridiculously good from the 3, but still needs to get a better back-to the-basket game...
LeBron should be in his prime by 26.
But, this is just one mans opinion.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Dec 17, 2009 5:08pm
Shaq. I think if there is a dominant big man....you always build around him.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Dec 17, 2009 5:10pm
I would have to go with Shaq. He was probably the most dominant player in NBA history in his prime.
I think there are way more talented wing players than post players, so if you get the chance to get someone who will just control the paint you take it and build around them. See Orlando last year.
I think there are way more talented wing players than post players, so if you get the chance to get someone who will just control the paint you take it and build around them. See Orlando last year.
Little Danny
Posts: 4,288
Dec 17, 2009 5:30pm
Shaq-Fu
Mr. 300
Posts: 3,090
Dec 17, 2009 9:37pm
Shaq everyday of the week and twice on Sunday.
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HiddenGems
Posts: 126
Dec 17, 2009 9:47pm
Shaq all day. LBJ really cant be rated for his prime until he is 28 though.
ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Dec 17, 2009 10:17pm
Since the Cav's have both I guess I don't really care.
SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
Dec 17, 2009 10:29pm
Shaq.
For now.
For now.
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Crimson_Streak
Posts: 172
Dec 17, 2009 10:52pm
i would take shaq over any player ever the man was dominant and couldnt be stopped.
SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
Dec 17, 2009 10:57pm
^LOL, no. I'd take Jordan over Shaq easily. Magic probably. Kareem, Bird and Wilt maybe.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Dec 17, 2009 11:08pm
Shaq without a doubt in my mind.
Shaq vs Jordan is a good question...
Shaq vs Jordan is a good question...
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Dec 17, 2009 11:08pm
If you would take Larry Bird over Shaq in his prime you're insane.SQ_Crazies wrote: ^LOL, no. I'd take Jordan over Shaq easily. Magic probably. Kareem, Bird and Wilt maybe.
SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
Dec 17, 2009 11:19pm
I believe I said maybe, not certainly. If you don't think there is an argument then you're in denial of your own insanity.
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Dec 17, 2009 11:51pm
After thinking about it, I'd take Shaq over ANY player...
SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
Dec 17, 2009 11:52pm
If you'd take prime Shaq over prime Jordan you're clinically insane.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Dec 17, 2009 11:53pm
I really think the only 2 guards I would take over a center are Jordan and Magic. The Big O is pretty close, but lack of titles keeps him off.
Shaq vs Jordan or Magic is a really good argument to me.
Wilt, Russell, Kareem and Shaq are all great centers who dominated. Couldnt go wrong either way.
So a total of 6 (maybe 7) players and 4 of them are centers and 2 of them are BIG pgs.
LeBron may get there someday, but right now no.
Shaq vs Jordan or Magic is a really good argument to me.
Wilt, Russell, Kareem and Shaq are all great centers who dominated. Couldnt go wrong either way.
So a total of 6 (maybe 7) players and 4 of them are centers and 2 of them are BIG pgs.
LeBron may get there someday, but right now no.
SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
Dec 17, 2009 11:54pm
Yeah I think LeBron will over take him someday--if he stays on the current path, I don't see why not.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Dec 17, 2009 11:57pm
I guess I'm in denial then, because there is no chance in hell.SQ_Crazies wrote: I believe I said maybe, not certainly. If you don't think there is an argument then you're in denial of your own insanity.
SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
Dec 18, 2009 12:01am
LOL, alright. If you want to talk about greatness--they're both great players. If you want to talk about game changing--I could argue that Larry did more to change the game than Shaq.
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Dec 18, 2009 12:20am
Dude, are you fucking serious?SQ_Crazies wrote: If you'd take prime Shaq over prime Jordan you're clinically insane.
You give me Shaq and Scottie Pippen and I'd have 8 titles in 8 years.
What did the Bulls do without Jordan for that season? They STILL made it to the ECF, defeated by who?
As others have said, great perimeter players really are a dime a dozen. You can pair Shaq with a solid wingman and you have an instant dynasty.
Shaq was easily the most dominant force EVER to play the game... EVER..
SQ, your opinion is just that, an opinion.
It's a good debate and one with solid points from both sides that could turn into a great debate, however when people start shit talking others based on their opinions, these debates just turn into shit...
so GTFO of here with the bullshit.