Midstate01
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Jun 25, 2012 8:30pm
Rotinaj;1211565 wrote:Yea that's also when he gives up those 4 run innings. Honestly, throwing that many strikes in a row just seems like a horrible idea. It did work though so I can't complain much.
I'm not saying throwing every ball down the middle. He's gettin ahead, then getting guys out on the corners. When he struggles its because he falls behind, becomes predictable, and throws pitches right over the middle.
Midstate01
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Jun 25, 2012 8:31pm
Phillies all over the pirates 7-2
Miami up 1-0 on the cards.
Miami up 1-0 on the cards.
jordo212000
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Jun 25, 2012 8:41pm
se-alum;1211538 wrote:Playing AAA right now, and also had no position on the Reds team. We traded two unproven prospects who had no position to play on the big club, for a pitcher that had proven stats. This trade was the complete opposite of the Hamilton trade.
Alonso hit at the big league level.
Grandal is still a great prospect.
Just saying we gave up a ton to get Latos and so far he has been wildly inconsistent. Those guys could have been used in other trades. All I'm saying...
Midstate01
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Jun 25, 2012 8:43pm
Maybe nobody I enjoy seeing suck more then Nijer Morgan. What a douche
SportsAndLady
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Jun 25, 2012 8:51pm
No that's not what you're just saying...you're saying the trade is similar to the Volquez/Hamilton trade...and so far, as sealum has pointed out, it's absolutely not.jordo212000;1211572 wrote:Just saying we gave up a ton to get Latos and so far he has been wildly inconsistent.
wildcats20
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Jun 25, 2012 8:53pm
HP ump is terrible.
jordo212000
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Jun 25, 2012 8:55pm
SportsAndLady;1211585 wrote:No that's not what you're just saying...you're saying the trade is similar to the Volquez/Hamilton trade...and so far, as sealum has pointed out, it's absolutely not.
What? Trading talent for a wildly inconsistent guy with a nice arm isn't similar? Look at media articles regarding the trade. Nearly everybody said the Reds gave up a ton
wildcats20
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Jun 25, 2012 9:03pm
11 Ks for Latos. Solid outing, nice to get him the W though.
SportsAndLady
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Jun 25, 2012 9:04pm
He had a 3.47 ERA last year. A 2.92 ERA the year before...where exactly is the inconsistency? He's been inconsistent this year, sure. But he's pitching in a completely different ballpark on a completely different team. I fully expect him to be our clear #2 best pitcher by year's end. I'm not at all worried about Latos, or our pitching staff in general, really.jordo212000;1211593 wrote:What? Trading talent for a wildly inconsistent guy with a nice arm isn't similar? Look at media articles regarding the trade. Nearly everybody said the Reds gave up a ton
But you're not even getting our point...the two trades have zero in common.
SportsAndLady
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Jun 25, 2012 9:04pm
Jinx much?wildcats20;1211605 wrote:nice to get him the W though.
wildcats20
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Jun 25, 2012 9:05pm
No shit.
jordo212000
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Jun 25, 2012 9:14pm
SportsAndLady;1211608 wrote:He had a 3.47 ERA last year. A 2.92 ERA the year before...where exactly is the inconsistency? He's been inconsistent this year, sure. But he's pitching in a completely different ballpark on a completely different team. I fully expect him to be our clear #2 best pitcher by year's end. I'm not at all worried about Latos, or our pitching staff in general, really.
But you're not even getting our point...the two trades have zero in common.
Yeah.. And when Cincy got Volquez he came in with good numbers / hype.
Production aside, Latos is a head case
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/reds-pay-big-to-acquire-mat-latos-from-padres?urn=mlb,wp28755
it's not Latos' talent that is called into question, it's his maturity. We've discussed those maturity issues a time or two here on Big League Stew. Hayes cited one source that says there was "a ton" of concern within the Padres front office about Latos' ability to overcome those maturity issues
SportsAndLady
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Jun 25, 2012 9:17pm
LOL so are you going to give any examples of his inconsistency in SD, or are you just gonna keep saying it w/ no evidence?jordo212000;1211624 wrote:Yeah.. And when Cincy got Volquez he came in with good numbers / hype.
Production aside, Latos is a head case
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/reds-pay-big-to-acquire-mat-latos-from-padres?urn=mlb,wp28755
And wow, a SD front office guy said he had mental issues AFTER he was traded...great source there.
jordo212000
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Jun 25, 2012 9:20pm
SportsAndLady;1211631 wrote:LOL so are you going to give any examples of his inconsistency in SD, or are you just gonna keep saying it w/ no evidence?
And wow, a SD front office guy said he had mental issues AFTER he was traded...great source there.
Inconsistent this year. Was good in San Diego, but if you follow my logic, I was saying Edinson wasn't a scrub when we got him. My original point: Latos' performance is reminiscent of Edinson whom we acquired by giving up a future star because we thought we had others in organization who could replace them.
wildcats20
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Jun 25, 2012 9:31pm
Very simple answer Thom.
Latos starts the inning. As soon as a guy gets on, you bring in Aroldis.
Latos starts the inning. As soon as a guy gets on, you bring in Aroldis.
wildcats20
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Jun 25, 2012 9:32pm
BP with a solid 2 bagger to the wall.
wildcats20
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Jun 25, 2012 9:33pm
I LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE that steal by BP.
Midstate01
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Jun 25, 2012 9:35pm
Bruce tagged that ball. Can't believe hart made that play.
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mhs95_06
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Jun 25, 2012 9:36pm
But it goes for naught as another reds hitter can't get the runner in from 3rd with less than two out.wildcats20;1211671 wrote:I LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE that steal by BP.
wildcats20
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Jun 25, 2012 9:39pm
Latos is back out there.
wildcats20
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Jun 25, 2012 9:44pm
CG, 4 hitter, 2 BBs, 13 Ks.
Pretty shitty night.
Pretty shitty night.
Midstate01
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Jun 25, 2012 9:45pm
Hell of an outing by Latos!!
Midstate01
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Jun 25, 2012 9:46pm
Pirates and cards both getting beat up in the late innings!
wildcats20
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Jun 25, 2012 9:47pm
One of, it not, the best outing of the year by a Reds pitcher?
Midstate01
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Jun 25, 2012 9:54pm
wildcats20;1211697 wrote:One of, it not, the best outing of the year by a Reds pitcher?
Easily