The Surface tablet will have two options, one running Windows RT and the other running Windows 8 (which means, presumably, you'll be able to run your normal computer programs on it and it will be more like a laptop, and less like a big cell phone): http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/18/3094157/new-microsoft-surface-windows-tablet

Excited to see what it rolls out as, and of course, to see the price. Could be worth a look.

In before Buy a Mac.

Depending on price I'd probably buy one.

I think MS dropped the ball on this not giving more specs and release dates. They should have waited and had this event when they were ready to ship them.

The product looks very interesting.

When you get Cal Ripken to unveil your product, you're appealing to the wrong generation

More junk that people want but don't need. I won't be buying even if its free.

sleeper;1204562 wrote:More junk that people want but don't need. I won't be buying even if its free.

Fact. I've never bought something that was free.

justincredible;1204563 wrote:Fact. I've never bought something that was free.

Clearly you've never gotten laid.

sleeper;1204810 wrote:Clearly you've never gotten laid.

Truth

I think it looks pretty good and is perhaps the first real challenge to the iPAD in that arena. The Windows RT one (uses non x86 procs) is interesting but I think what I'd go for is the x86 version. Hopefully price is competitive though.

I Wear Pants;1204885 wrote:The Windows RT one (uses non x86 procs) is interesting but I think what I'd go for is the x86 version. Hopefully price is competitive though.

I think they'd have been better off taking a card from the Apple pile and went all-in with one or the other. They're just saturating the market by doing that.

I'm under the assumption that certain programs won't work on those ARM processors...

[video=youtube;N1zxDa3t0fg][/video]

I Wear Pants;1204885 wrote:I think it looks pretty good and is perhaps the first real challenge to the iPAD in that arena. The Windows RT one (uses non x86 procs) is interesting but I think what I'd go for is the x86 version. Hopefully price is competitive though.

It's a lot like the ASUS transformer series. I'm interested in that, but without more power and ram (or Windows, for that matter), they still are pretty useless for much more than browsing or watching video. I'd definitely be interested in this if it's powerful enough to replace a mid-tier laptop (which I doubt). It would be nice for travel and less ram/cpu intensive work. Unfortunately I'll probably not be able to ditch my laptop for a long time.

Fwiw the surface froze during it's rollout presentation today.

Just moved the Mac vs PC debate into its own thread.

http://www.ohiochatter.com/forum/showthread.php?34870-Mac-vs-PC-Debate

j_crazy;1206544 wrote:Fwiw the surface froze during it's rollout presentation today.

Today?

gorocks99;1206554 wrote:Just moved the Mac vs PC debate into its own thread.

http://www.ohiochatter.com/forum/showthread.php?34870-Mac-vs-PC-Debate

Look at you, being all moderatory and stuff.

WebFire;1206648 wrote:Today?

Yep
Well yesterday.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1zxDa3t0fg&feature=youtube_gdata_player

gorocks99;1206554 wrote:Just moved the Mac vs PC debate into its own thread.

http://www.ohiochatter.com/forum/showthread.php?34870-Mac-vs-PC-Debate

Good on ya mate

j_crazy;1206689 wrote:Yep
Well yesterday.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1zxDa3t0fg&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Ok, wanted to make it was the same thing. ETB posted the video of it above.

hoops23;1206737 wrote:

Lol

WebFire;1206719 wrote:Ok, wanted to make it was the same thing. ETB posted the video of it above.

Ah missed it. Good on ya etb

dlazz;1204960 wrote:I think they'd have been better off taking a card from the Apple pile and went all-in with one or the other. They're just saturating the market by doing that.

I'm under the assumption that certain programs won't work on those ARM processors...

What do you mean all-in with one or the other?

The Windows RT/non-x86 processor versions are actually the true competitor to the iPad. They'll be thinner and likely have better battery life than x86 versions. Windows RT as I understand it isn't capable of running all the code that normal Windows 8 will be able to run but still can handle more languages than iOS or Android for that matter (as I've been told).

The x86/normal Windows 8 ones are something else entirely and if they manage to have good performance, which it looks like they should and are a reasonable price they could shake things up quite a bit.

Microsoft is actually going more "all in" than Apple if you think about it across their whole ecosystem. Apple has iOS and OS X which stay in their little boxes. Microsoft the last few years has really started to bring all of it's stuff together, if I wanted to use business babble I'd talk about ecosystem convergence or something probably. Especially when they intro Windows Phone 8 and the next Xbox I'd bet that all this stuff is even more similar and works together even better.

I still think that while this isn't a surefire homerun or "gamechanger" it certainly seems more compelling to me than the thought of a more direct iPad competitor via some version of Windows Phone on a bigger screen (and not because I don't like that OS, IMO it's the best phone OS out right now. I just like this play better)

I Wear Pants;1206954 wrote:What do you mean all-in with one or the other?

The Windows RT/non-x86 processor versions are actually the true competitor to the iPad. They'll be thinner and likely have better battery life than x86 versions. Windows RT as I understand it isn't capable of running all the code that normal Windows 8 will be able to run but still can handle more languages than iOS or Android for that matter (as I've been told).

The x86/normal Windows 8 ones are something else entirely and if they manage to have good performance, which it looks like they should and are a reasonable price they could shake things up quite a bit.

Microsoft is actually going more "all in" than Apple if you think about it across their whole ecosystem. Apple has iOS and OS X which stay in their little boxes. Microsoft the last few years has really started to bring all of it's stuff together, if I wanted to use business babble I'd talk about ecosystem convergence or something probably. Especially when they intro Windows Phone 8 and the next Xbox I'd bet that all this stuff is even more similar and works together even better.

I still think that while this isn't a surefire homerun or "gamechanger" it certainly seems more compelling to me than the thought of a more direct iPad competitor via some version of Windows Phone on a bigger screen (and not because I don't like that OS, IMO it's the best phone OS out right now. I just like this play better)

Being able to develop with MS developing tools is a major plus (DirectX support) for both the tablet and phone. Seems like the ceiling on the new MS stuff is a lot higher than both Android and iOS.