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Con_Alma

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Jun 14, 2012 8:46 PM
Policies don't stop bullying.
Jun 14, 2012 8:46pm
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MontyBrunswick

Jun 14, 2012 8:50 PM
isadore;1200219 wrote:so·cial dar·win·ism
Noun:
The theory that individuals, groups, and peoples are subject to the same Darwinian laws of natural selection
[h=2]dumbass   [duhm-as][/h]
noun Slang: Vulgar . a thoroughly stupid person; blockhead.
Jun 14, 2012 8:50pm
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isadore

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Jun 14, 2012 9:19 PM
Con_Alma;1200244 wrote:Policies don't stop bullying.
the right policy correctly implemented does.
Jun 14, 2012 9:19pm
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isadore

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Jun 14, 2012 9:25 PM
Con_Alma;1200243 wrote:Of course they should have a policy. Did someone say they shouldn't? Don't they all have such policy's?
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Con_Alma wrote:I respectfully decline any movement by schools to provide services that others entities are specifically in place to perform. If kids or families have a problem they need to seek those entities out.
given the number of kids going to school and the amount of time they spend there, it schools are entity that should be actively involved in fighting bullying,
Jun 14, 2012 9:25pm
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isadore

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Jun 14, 2012 9:29 PM
dlazz;1200246 wrote:dumbass   [duhm-as]


noun Slang: Vulgar . a thoroughly stupid person; blockhead.
gosh a ruddies, I taught you what social darwinism meant, a little positive feedback would have been nice. oh well at least I had the pleasure of adding the term social darwinism to your vocabulary.
Jun 14, 2012 9:29pm
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Pick6

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Jun 14, 2012 9:30 PM
isadore;1200275 wrote:the right policy correctly implemented does.
what is this policy?
Jun 14, 2012 9:30pm
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Trueblue23

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Jun 14, 2012 10:08 PM
Ah gotcha
Jun 14, 2012 10:08pm
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sleeper

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Jun 14, 2012 10:22 PM
Pick6;1200309 wrote:what is this policy?
Raise taxes on the wealthy.
Jun 14, 2012 10:22pm
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isadore

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Jun 14, 2012 10:41 PM
sleeper;1200441 wrote:Raise taxes on the wealthy.
always a good policy
Jun 14, 2012 10:41pm
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gut

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Jun 14, 2012 11:30 PM
sleeper;1200441 wrote:Raise taxes on the wealthy.
A bully tax. Might even call it the "Mitt Romney tax". You could be onto something.
Jun 14, 2012 11:30pm
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Con_Alma

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Jun 15, 2012 6:15 AM
isadore;1200296 wrote:you
given the number of kids going to school and the amount of time they spend there, it schools are entity that should be actively involved in fighting bullying,
A policy is not social services. Sorry but you're incorrect here. I am under the impression that all schools have policies against such behavior.

DO they not?

It won't matter anyway because the most stringent policy won't stop bullying.
Jun 15, 2012 6:15am
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Con_Alma

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Jun 15, 2012 6:17 AM
So the State mandated in 2007 all schools put a policy in place banning bullying? It either hasn't stopped bullying or the schools haven't done it. Which is it?
Jun 15, 2012 6:17am
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ManO'War

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Jun 15, 2012 8:23 AM
I just read an article on former pro football players committing suicide, so were they bullied too??

There has to be more going on with a person than just being "bullied" for them to kill themselves.

I remember quite a few kids who were outcasts and made fun of when I was in school. None of them killed themselves.

So the cause-effect here seems pretty weak at best.
Jun 15, 2012 8:23am
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redstreak one

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Jun 15, 2012 8:48 AM
isadore;1200242 wrote:since kids spend so much time in school, it makes sense for schools to have a policy about bullying.
8760 Hours in a year, 1274 hours in a school year. Unfortunately the internet is 24/7! Schools have a role, but must have support.
Jun 15, 2012 8:48am
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isadore

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Jun 15, 2012 9:52 AM
redstreak one;1200987 wrote:8760 Hours in a year, 1274 hours in a school year. Unfortunately the internet is 24/7! Schools have a role, but must have support.
the number of school hours is somewhat understated, many students spend hours a day riding the bus to and from school, many students spend several hours a week in extracurricular activities.
Jun 15, 2012 9:52am
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redstreak one

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Jun 15, 2012 10:00 AM
^^^^ Many students walk, take public transportation, ride with parents or drive themselves. The point is, school isnt equipped to handle this alone. They play a role, but with no support %from parents, community or society as a whole they will fail.

180 days a year, our school is 7 hours per for my total. Even if you factor in bus rides, that still only accounts for 16% or so.
Jun 15, 2012 10:00am
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isadore

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Jun 15, 2012 10:05 AM
Con_Alma;1200953 wrote:So the State mandated in 2007 all schools put a policy in place banning bullying? It either hasn't stopped bullying or the schools haven't done it. Which is it?
It takes time to implement a policy.
Jun 15, 2012 10:05am
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isadore

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Jun 15, 2012 10:07 AM
redstreak one;1201041 wrote:^^^^ Many students walk, take public transportation, ride with parents or drive themselves. The point is, school isnt equipped to handle this alone. They play a role, but with no support %from parents, community or society as a whole they will fail.

180 days a year, our school is 7 hours per for my total. Even if you factor in bus rides, that still only accounts for 16% or so.
and that is more than any where else in a social situation.
Jun 15, 2012 10:07am
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isadore

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Jun 15, 2012 10:08 AM
Con_Alma;1200952 wrote:A policy is not social services. Sorry but you're incorrect here. I am under the impression that all schools have policies against such behavior.

DO they not?

It won't matter anyway because the most stringent policy won't stop bullying.
the best enforced law never eliminates crime but reduces it, the best enforced bullying policy will reduce it and save lives.
Jun 15, 2012 10:08am
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MontyBrunswick

Jun 15, 2012 10:20 AM
isadore;1201053 wrote:the best enforced bullying policy will reduce it and save lives.
what is your "best policy"?
Jun 15, 2012 10:20am
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Con_Alma

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Jun 15, 2012 10:31 AM
isadore;1201053 wrote:the best enforced law never eliminates crime but reduces it, the best enforced bullying policy will reduce it and save lives.
I don't think I disagreed with this anywhere. I have, however, added to that premise. A school and a policy won't rid society of bullying...ever.
Jun 15, 2012 10:31am