Belly35
Posts: 9,716
Jun 13, 2012 2:27pm
Should gun safety be taught in schools?
What age and via who?
Should student be required to fire a weapon at a range for a passing credit?
What age and via who?
Should student be required to fire a weapon at a range for a passing credit?
mcburg93
Posts: 3,167
Jun 13, 2012 2:45pm
Weapon use should not be taught in school. That is something a parent if he/she wants to teach their child should do.
Raw Dawgin' it
Posts: 11,466
Jun 13, 2012 3:01pm
No.Belly35;1198725 wrote:Should gun safety be taught in schools?
What age and via who?
Should student be required to fire a weapon at a range for a passing credit?
DeadliestWarrior34
Posts: 3,101
Jun 13, 2012 3:35pm
/threadRaw Dawgin' it;1198792 wrote:No.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Jun 13, 2012 3:44pm
While I do think parents should teach their kids gun safety (and many of the adults I've seen shooting need lessons themselves), it is not the job of the school to teach this subject.
Rotinaj
Posts: 7,699
Jun 13, 2012 3:58pm
Uhhhh no.
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Jun 13, 2012 4:01pm
You serious belly? Not everyone lives in the woods and hunts for their food every night.
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fan_from_texas
Posts: 2,693
Jun 13, 2012 5:25pm
No.
How about we start with teaching people how to balance a checkbook or create a resume? We can go from there.
How about we start with teaching people how to balance a checkbook or create a resume? We can go from there.
said_aouita
Posts: 8,532
Jun 13, 2012 9:18pm
Belly35;1198725 wrote:Should gun safety be taught in schools?
No.
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
Jun 13, 2012 9:19pm
No.
gerb131
Posts: 9,932
Jun 13, 2012 9:23pm
Could be a good educational class. Just cause you don't hunt doesnt mean you cant shoot lil Susies head off on accident.
GoPens
Posts: 2,339
Jun 13, 2012 9:36pm
Are you nuts?
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Jun 13, 2012 9:48pm
No. Not everybody handles weapons. Some kids in the inner city...you might not want any of them handling weapons.
If you handle weapons, there is a hunter's safety course which teaches you how to handle pistols, shotguns, and rifles. BTW, I didn't learn anything from it. Just had to take it for legal bull crap.
If you handle weapons, there is a hunter's safety course which teaches you how to handle pistols, shotguns, and rifles. BTW, I didn't learn anything from it. Just had to take it for legal bull crap.
OSH
Posts: 4,145
Jun 14, 2012 12:35am
I will agree with Belly...on some of it.
I think a gun safety course would be extremely important. I don't think that firing weapons would be good. I definitely think that a gun safety course could be thrown into the PE courses -- I mean, they do have archery and bowling in PE.
I don't know why gun safety would be a bad thing. People say, "that should be taught by mom and dad." Well, the same should be said for math, science, English, etc. The same could be said for sex education. The same could be said for health education. The problem is...there are sooooooo many in this country that don't have the luxury of that home life. Like it or not, the public school system is the closest to having "parents" for many kids. The public school system has evolved into teaching more than just "readin', writin', and 'rithmatic." Adding gun safety is just something else that should be done.
I think a gun safety course would be extremely important. I don't think that firing weapons would be good. I definitely think that a gun safety course could be thrown into the PE courses -- I mean, they do have archery and bowling in PE.
I don't know why gun safety would be a bad thing. People say, "that should be taught by mom and dad." Well, the same should be said for math, science, English, etc. The same could be said for sex education. The same could be said for health education. The problem is...there are sooooooo many in this country that don't have the luxury of that home life. Like it or not, the public school system is the closest to having "parents" for many kids. The public school system has evolved into teaching more than just "readin', writin', and 'rithmatic." Adding gun safety is just something else that should be done.
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
Jun 14, 2012 12:45am
Why is gun safety needed? Most people probably don't ever interact with a gun in their lives. There are far more pressing educational programs that are being cut with reduced budgets that we could add back in instead of adding a gun safety course.OSH;1199329 wrote:I will agree with Belly...on some of it.
I think a gun safety course would be extremely important. I don't think that firing weapons would be good. I definitely think that a gun safety course could be thrown into the PE courses -- I mean, they do have archery and bowling in PE.
I don't know why gun safety would be a bad thing. People say, "that should be taught by mom and dad." Well, the same should be said for math, science, English, etc. The same could be said for sex education. The same could be said for health education. The problem is...there are sooooooo many in this country that don't have the luxury of that home life. Like it or not, the public school system is the closest to having "parents" for many kids. The public school system has evolved into teaching more than just "readin', writin', and 'rithmatic." Adding gun safety is just something else that should be done.
OSH
Posts: 4,145
Jun 14, 2012 12:50am
It doesn't take much to include gun safety into a PE curriculum. Most people never play kickball in their life, why do we have it in the school systems? Most people never play a recorder in their life, why do we have that? I have yet to use clay since I left 4th grade...why do we have art?I Wear Pants;1199334 wrote:Why is gun safety needed? Most people probably don't ever interact with a gun in their lives. There are far more pressing educational programs that are being cut with reduced budgets that we could add back in instead of adding a gun safety course.
It only takes one time of knowing gun safety to comprehend what should happen when someone gets around guns. It's an educational opportunity. I don't use the majority of the stuff I learned in high school math classes...why have high school math?
We don't even need to talk about school budgets...that's a whole other issue. There's no reason why it should cost $11,000+ (on average) to educate a single student per year in this country. That's absurd.
Glory Days
Posts: 7,809
Jun 14, 2012 4:16am
Dont forget bomb making.
rmolin73
Posts: 4,278
Jun 14, 2012 6:24am
As well as hostage negotiations.
Raw Dawgin' it
Posts: 11,466
Jun 14, 2012 7:16am
What about knife and tomahawk throwing classes?
Can you imagine the insurance costs of having minors around guns? How is this even a debate. Schools are suppose to be safe, why would parents even risk sending their kids to a place that openly welcomes guns. This is moronic...
Can you imagine the insurance costs of having minors around guns? How is this even a debate. Schools are suppose to be safe, why would parents even risk sending their kids to a place that openly welcomes guns. This is moronic...
OSH
Posts: 4,145
Jun 14, 2012 9:04am
There were three questions asked, only one involved actually having guns at school. While I think it would be a very informational and educational opportunity, it wouldn't and shouldn't happen. I think some small schools could possibly do it. But there's just too many kids to actually put through a "shooting" lesson.Raw Dawgin' it;1199382 wrote:What about knife and tomahawk throwing classes?
Can you imagine the insurance costs of having minors around guns? How is this even a debate. Schools are suppose to be safe, why would parents even risk sending their kids to a place that openly welcomes guns. This is moronic...
But, having a "book" lesson would be easy to incorporate.
Raw Dawgin' it
Posts: 11,466
Jun 14, 2012 9:05am
You want your kid to be learning about guns in school? I'm not anti gun but honestly I'd be pissed.OSH;1199441 wrote:There were three questions asked, only one involved actually having guns at school. While I think it would be a very informational and educational opportunity, it wouldn't and shouldn't happen. I think some small schools could possibly do it. But there's just too many kids to actually put through a "shooting" lesson.
But, having a "book" lesson would be easy to incorporate.
Belly35
Posts: 9,716
Jun 14, 2012 9:49am
Weapon Safety classes coming to the Public school near you.
Teach sex education, driver training, drug prevention, and what will be the next Federal money grant Weapon Safety.
I have some mix feeling about this and I do think that the Public Schools needs to get back to basic learning first and start to master teaching our kids reading, writing ( grammar) and math, science and history… before taking on what parents should be doing…
Mark my words this will be the next big issue for the Federal Goverment to mandate to the Public Schools via the Liberals .. you hear that right.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=96091&page=1
http://www.outdoorlife.com/blogs/gun-shots/2012/05/it-time-press-firearms-safety-classes-public-schools
http://www.9news.com/news/article/250909/188/Gun-safety-program-taught-to-elementary-school-students-
Teach sex education, driver training, drug prevention, and what will be the next Federal money grant Weapon Safety.
I have some mix feeling about this and I do think that the Public Schools needs to get back to basic learning first and start to master teaching our kids reading, writing ( grammar) and math, science and history… before taking on what parents should be doing…
Mark my words this will be the next big issue for the Federal Goverment to mandate to the Public Schools via the Liberals .. you hear that right.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=96091&page=1
http://www.outdoorlife.com/blogs/gun-shots/2012/05/it-time-press-firearms-safety-classes-public-schools
http://www.9news.com/news/article/250909/188/Gun-safety-program-taught-to-elementary-school-students-
OSH
Posts: 4,145
Jun 15, 2012 12:07am
Why not? It's not like I won't have already taught them by the time the gun safety course would probably come around.Raw Dawgin' it;1199442 wrote:You want your kid to be learning about guns in school? I'm not anti gun but honestly I'd be pissed.
I am interested in hearing some opinions on why it is NOT a good idea...any? Most have said "no" to the notion, but not really had any reasoning behind it. And yes, I know it's probably a parent's job to do...but so isn't general education. So, to me, that argument is a wash.
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
Jun 15, 2012 12:33am
The money and time would be better spent on other courses.OSH;1200850 wrote:Why not? It's not like I won't have already taught them by the time the gun safety course would probably come around.
I am interested in hearing some opinions on why it is NOT a good idea...any? Most have said "no" to the notion, but not really had any reasoning behind it. And yes, I know it's probably a parent's job to do...but so isn't general education. So, to me, that argument is a wash.
OSH
Posts: 4,145
Jun 15, 2012 12:43am
Apparently you never saw where I said it could be incorporated in other courses -- i.e., PE for example.I Wear Pants;1200891 wrote:The money and time would be better spent on other courses.
And if we want to talk about money AND time, we could look at the current structure of the American public education system, in general. If we want to say that money and time could be better spent...we'd change the way we educate, period.
It doesn't have to be a course taught alone. If a private school wants to, so be it. But taking a 9-week (or however long semesters are) course is a bit of an overkill for a gun safety course.