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Jun 12, 2012 3:55 PM
Commander of Awesome;1196938 wrote:I have no issue if people want to buy/eat organic food, but the belief that it's better/healthier for you is BS.

It's not just about the pesticides though, that's the point you are missing.
Jun 12, 2012 3:55pm
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Jun 12, 2012 3:58 PM
like_that;1196944 wrote:It's not just about the pesticides though, that's the point you are missing.
What's the point then? Besides paying more for food.
Jun 12, 2012 3:58pm
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Jun 12, 2012 4:09 PM
dlazz;1196945 wrote:What's the point then? Besides paying more for food.

Look at a pic of mcnuggets before they become mcnuggets. Lol at anyone who thinks that is just as good for you as a free range chicken.
Jun 12, 2012 4:09pm
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MontyBrunswick

Jun 12, 2012 4:17 PM
like_that;1196960 wrote:Look at a pic of mcnuggets before they become mcnuggets. Lol at anyone who thinks that is just as good for you as a free range chicken.
Most food looks gross before it reaches you.
Jun 12, 2012 4:17pm
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Jun 12, 2012 4:20 PM
dlazz;1196974 wrote:Most food looks gross before it reaches you.

Not true, also it doesn't look fake either.
Jun 12, 2012 4:20pm
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Jun 12, 2012 4:23 PM
ccrunner609;1196632 wrote:cant get more organic then this

Than
Jun 12, 2012 4:23pm
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Jun 12, 2012 6:08 PM
like_that;1196960 wrote:Look at a pic of mcnuggets before they become mcnuggets. Lol at anyone who thinks that is just as good for you as a free range chicken.
lol at using processed fast food as your argument.
Jun 12, 2012 6:08pm
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Jun 12, 2012 6:36 PM
Commander of Awesome;1197055 wrote:lol at using processed fast food as your argument.
It's Organic vs processed food. Not surprised that went over your head though.
Jun 12, 2012 6:36pm
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Jun 12, 2012 6:39 PM
Early Cuyler;1196934 wrote:Wow, for once I will actually agree with CoA! As someone heavily involved in agriculture, I think we should focus on simply HAVING enough food to feed our ever-growing global population. If that means utilizing new technology and GMO's, then so be it...
This would be great if evolution just played out. The people who ate the "fake food" or succumb to the side effects of consuming the wrong stuff would not reproduce or survive. However, it's ass-backwards today. We have an increased number of starving people, and when I say starving, I'm talking about nutrient-deficient people. Many of these people are eating 3 meals a day, but they are increasingly overfed and undernourished. Although it's far more complicated, this leads to the majority of disease and health problems, which we then treat with drugs and medications, which allows this population to outlive their natural ability and the population grows faster than they die off. Of course, as it increases, the health issues become more and more genetic, adaptations get made to the drugs and the negatives and we end up with a larger society of more unhealthy people. At some point, there will be a tipping point and it will spill over. We can only keep up for so long.

Again, this could be a huge thread itself, but the answer is NOT to make food out of chemicals to attempt to solve hunger. There is zero precedent for it to ever work...
Jun 12, 2012 6:39pm
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Jun 12, 2012 6:59 PM
Commander of Awesome;1196938 wrote:I have no issue if people want to buy/eat organic food, but the belief that it's better/healthier for you is BS.
This.

Besides generally paying more - sometimes much more - for the "organic" food you cannot convince me that the "organic" carrots, for example, are any healthier for us than the "off-the-shelf" carrots.

Why? Because the seller says it is?

Sorry. The trade off of pesticides used to create a greater food supply vs. food labeled "organic" with the implication that it is somehow healthier for us in the long run isn't that significant in my humble opinion.

Frankly the organic craze is probably more marketing fluff and hype than substance.

Pay more for "organic" if it sooths your soul, but I'm quite certain your organic shit smells just as rancid as my store bought shit....except mine might kill a few more bugs. ;)
Jun 12, 2012 6:59pm
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Jun 12, 2012 7:03 PM
Azubuike24;1197077 wrote:This would be great if evolution just played out. The people who ate the "fake food" or succumb to the side effects of consuming the wrong stuff would not reproduce or survive. However, it's ass-backwards today. We have an increased number of starving people, and when I say starving, I'm talking about nutrient-deficient people. Many of these people are eating 3 meals a day, but they are increasingly overfed and undernourished. Although it's far more complicated, this leads to the majority of disease and health problems, which we then treat with drugs and medications, which allows this population to outlive their natural ability and the population grows faster than they die off. Of course, as it increases, the health issues become more and more genetic, adaptations get made to the drugs and the negatives and we end up with a larger society of more unhealthy people. At some point, there will be a tipping point and it will spill over. We can only keep up for so long.

Again, this could be a huge thread itself, but the answer is NOT to make food out of chemicals to attempt to solve hunger. There is zero precedent for it to ever work...
This is a brilliant post. For a second there I thought I was reading my own thoughts. Well done.
Jun 12, 2012 7:03pm
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Jun 12, 2012 7:08 PM
everything causes cancer, organic or processed.
Jun 12, 2012 7:08pm
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Jun 12, 2012 7:09 PM
ccrunner609;1196632 wrote:cant get more organic then this

the animals are dead and already decaying! had you kept it alive and only ate what you needed it would be much fresher.
Jun 12, 2012 7:09pm
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Jun 12, 2012 7:13 PM
like_that;1197075 wrote:It's Organic vs processed food. Not surprised that went over your head though.
No its organic vs non organic. Not surprised that went over your head though.
Jun 12, 2012 7:13pm
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Jun 12, 2012 7:58 PM
Commander of Awesome;1197100 wrote:No its organic vs non organic. Not surprised that went over your head though.
I was referring to my example which was an example of organic vs processed food (also non organic). lol keep on failing though.
Jun 12, 2012 7:58pm
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Jun 12, 2012 8:50 PM
like_that;1197194 wrote:I was referring to my example which was an example of organic vs processed food (also non organic). lol keep on failing though.
Not what the thread was about, nor the discussion. Keep on trying to come up with excuses after the fact ala ytowngirlinfla, its hilarious.
Jun 12, 2012 8:50pm
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Jun 12, 2012 8:51 PM
I haven't read through this whole thread but watch Penn and Tellers "Bullshit" episode on organic
Jun 12, 2012 8:51pm
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Jun 12, 2012 8:52 PM
Commander of Awesome;1197290 wrote:Not what the thread was about, nor the discussion. Keep on trying to come up with excuses after the fact ala ytowngirlinfla, its hilarious.
Read the first post. Keep on failing though little guy.
Jun 12, 2012 8:52pm
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Jun 12, 2012 8:54 PM
Organic food is largely BS. It's a way to make you spend more money on the same exact product.
Jun 12, 2012 8:54pm
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Jun 12, 2012 9:15 PM
This is a great thread. Watching COA and like_that go at it is like watching Newton's cradle.
Jun 12, 2012 9:15pm
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Jun 12, 2012 9:52 PM
ernest_t_bass;1197331 wrote:This is a great thread. Watching COA and like_that go at it is like watching Newton's cradle.
If by "going at it" you're referring to discussing the topic like a bunch of non pussies, than yes sure.
Jun 12, 2012 9:52pm
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Jun 12, 2012 9:53 PM
Commander of Awesome;1197424 wrote:If by "going at it" you're referring to discussing the topic like a bunch of non pussies, than yes sure.
ETB doesn't understand how to have discussions without getting your feelings hurt and acting like a QQ baby.
Jun 12, 2012 9:53pm
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Jun 12, 2012 9:55 PM
Shop in Amish Country. Organic foods are readily available and the prices are low.
Jun 12, 2012 9:55pm
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Jun 12, 2012 9:57 PM
THE4RINGZ;1197435 wrote:Shop in Amish Country. Organic foods are readily available and the prices are low.
amish use natural pesticides like armpit sweat.
Jun 12, 2012 9:57pm
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Jun 12, 2012 10:03 PM
If you've ever smelled a ripe Amish is August you would understand.
Jun 12, 2012 10:03pm